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| Quote ="RickK"I still wonder why Miro continues his crusade on this little backwater, his belief and commitment really needs to be taken to a wider audience, clearly Miro understands how to post on media platforms so it's not a great leap into a pool where others can experience the benefit of his thought's, statistics, quotations, his commitment to putting people right, his witless repartee, please Miro share the load, the narrow RLFans Forum despite being connected in the same way as most of the rest of society is not special to COVID 19.'"
A covid chat thread with no covid chat? Be a little silly wouldn't it?
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Quote ="PopTart"I agree with all that and I join you in congratulating Bill on investing in a company like that giving them the capital to move quickly to find a vaccine for us all.'"
Oh sorry, those are not my words. Taken from https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/09/ ... is-the-cl/
Your mates helpful link.
By the way, where are we with your claim that influenza can't be caught in the open spaces of Belle Vue.
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Quote ="PopTart"I agree with all that and I join you in congratulating Bill on investing in a company like that giving them the capital to move quickly to find a vaccine for us all.'"
Oh sorry, those are not my words. Taken from https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/09/ ... is-the-cl/
Your mates helpful link.
By the way, where are we with your claim that influenza can't be caught in the open spaces of Belle Vue.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Just for the record, there is no immunity from seasonal or any other flu.
Hence, why there's a vaccine and people unfortunately still die from it. That's why there are monthly/yearly figures regarding it's outbreak and mortality rate.'"
Trouble is, I’m sure I’ve seen it reported that flu deaths are now to be reported as COVID deaths. Therefore, people will never die from the flu virus again. Now, if a COVID vaccine is effective, and COVID virus is eradicated, what the hell are people going to die from in the winter months? I know Mink flu.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"And are you suggesting that the population have not built up a whole load of immunity against seasonal flu, meaning that most of us are largely immune.
Yes, it spreads in just the same way but, they are not the same virus.
Anyway, are you still suggesting that the covid 19 virus is fake and that it's still part of a world re set or, is there another master plan in action to control the world's population.'"
I don't understand the wording of your first question.
As for the second question.
I don't believe I have said covid-19 is fake. You and others keep saying this so please point me to where I have claimed this.
Other than that my position has not changed.
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| Quote ="Miro"I don't understand the wording of your first question.
As for the second question.
I don't believe I have said covid-19 is fake. You and others keep saying this so please point me to where I have claimed this.
Other than that my position has not changed.'"
There 84 pages of your implied opinion. We can't go back and point you to your own posts.
Why not just clarify your point of view. Then we know in future we can jump back to page 84.
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| Quote ="PopTart"There 84 pages of your implied opinion. We can't go back and point you to your own posts.
Why not just clarify your point of view. Then we know in future we can jump back to page 84.'"
I believe the accuser has to provide the evidence.
I mean the cops can't just say to someone "we accuse you of murder, err, but we have no evidence, can you give us some old boy?"
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| Quote ="Miro"I don't know, ask the WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM, why ask me?
It's their baby, not mine.'"
It's YOU that is making yet another spurious link to Bill Gates, one of the wealthiest blokes on the planet, just because he and/or his organisation have shares in Pfizer.
I merely pointed out that I too, seem to be invested in the same company
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"It's YOU that is making yet another spurious link to Bill Gates, one of the wealthiest blokes on the planet, just because he and/or his organisation have shares in Pfizer.
I merely pointed out that I too, seem to be invested in the same company
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No you didn't, you asked this:
"FWIW, I seem to have shares in them too, through my pension portfolio , maybe my pension provider is also part of the "global re-set" ??"
How is it a "spurious link"? Gates is the one of, if not THE driver behind the both the WEF and Pfizer.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Trouble is, =#FF0000I’m sure I’ve seen it reported that flu deaths are now to be reported as COVID deaths. Therefore, people will never die from the flu virus again. =#FF0000Now, if a COVID vaccine is effective, and COVID virus is eradicated, what the hell are people going to die from in the winter months?
I know Mink flu.'"
That's right as you point out. But its totally ridiculous - as we all know - it's a different virus.......
It won't be. No vaccine is 100% effective, nor will Covid be eradicated.
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| Quote ="Miro"But 99.9% don't require a vaccine. Why the fuss and expenditure?
Oh yes, Bill and the shareholders.'"
Apologies, I don't have the time to go around looking to see if there are any more up to date statistics, when you look at WHO reports of Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) of a large sample = Deaths / Cases = 23,430 / 1,694,781 = 1.4%.
Mortality rates rise dramatically in those over 70 years of age.
I imagine, like the Flu Vaccination, that the NHS would probably look to push a vaccine on anyone over the age of 70 or classed clinically vulnerable? If you look at those in the UK alone that would probably equate to circa around 10 million people?
Just wondering why you think that a vaccine would only be needed to 0.01% of the population?
A successful vaccine will save millions of life`s of that I have no doubt, I have no doubt a vaccine could have potentially saved the life of a very good friend of mine that sadly passed away last Thursday from COVID-19, apart from struggling with COPD lived a quality life and was 58 years old, to downplay that just to suit your pathetic agenda is quite frankly ridiculous and disrespectful. Even if it was 0.01% that required a vaccine (Which is simply not true) I am sure many posters on here would have close friends or relatives that would require a vaccine.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Apologies, I don't have the time to go around looking to see if there are any more up to date statistics, when you look at WHO reports of Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) of a large sample = Deaths / Cases = 23,430 / 1,694,781 = 1.4%.
Mortality rates rise dramatically in those over 70 years of age.
I imagine, like the Flu Vaccination, that the NHS would probably look to push a vaccine on anyone over the age of 70 or classed clinically vulnerable? If you look at those in the UK alone that would probably equate to circa around 10 million people?
Just wondering why you think that a vaccine would only be needed to 0.01% of the population?
A successful vaccine will save millions of life`s of that I have no doubt, I have no doubt a vaccine could have potentially saved the life of a very good friend of mine that sadly passed away last Thursday from COVID-19, apart from struggling with COPD lived a quality life and was 58 years old, to downplay that just to suit your pathetic agenda is quite frankly ridiculous and disrespectful. Even if it was 0.01% that required a vaccine (Which is simply not true) I am sure many posters on here would have close friends or relatives that would require a vaccine.'"
.1% not .01% the figure you wrongly ascribe to me.
You are aware too that death by, from, with "covid" figures are hugely controversial
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| To provide some context behind the Flu argument;
Between 1 January and 31 August 2020, 52,327 deaths in England and Wales involved COVID-19. Out of these, 48,168 deaths were due to COVID-19: that is, COVID-19 was the underlying cause. This was 12.4% of all deaths for the period (389,835 deaths).
In the same period 69,781 deaths involved pneumonia and 506 deaths involved influenza: out of these, 13,619 and 394 deaths were due to pneumonia and influenza respectively (3.5% and 0.1% of all deaths).
Deaths related to pneumonia and influenza every year from 2014 up until 2019 range from 25,419 to 29,847 - The fact that up until August this year we have had 14,013 deaths due to pneumonia and influenza with 5 months of the year left to run and the majority of deaths been in the winter season, I think that tells the story that around the same number of deaths are going to be attributed to the flu? So if they are attributing flu deaths to COVID-19 then there are a hell of a lot more flu cases this year than there have been previously? Or maybe it is just that some posters are completely wrong and not the medical experts?
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| Quote ="Miro"A covid chat thread with no covid chat? Be a little silly wouldn't it?'"
What is silly is you banging away to a very localised audience on what you believe to be an international threat of a 'reset' I bet Bill Gates is not an RLFans devotee not even one of his hired underlings, have you let him know your views or is it just us?
Is your banging on, on here having any influence on the situation at all other than appearing to provide you with the Here's Miro Show
Do you believe this forum with your banging on to be the source of recognition should you convince anyone that your constant banging isn't actually banging on and this Forum and Wakefield Fans can take to the great wide world and proclaim Miro have been right all along and wasn't just banging on
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| Quote ="RickK"What is silly is you banging away to a very localised audience on what you believe to be an international threat of a 'reset' I bet Bill Gates is not an RLFans devotee not even one of his hired underlings, have you let him know your views or is it just us?
Is your banging on, on here having any influence on the situation at all other than appearing to provide you with the Here's Miro Show
Do you believe this forum with your banging on to be the source of recognition should you convince anyone that your constant banging isn't actually banging on and this Forum and Wakefield Fans can take to the great wide world and proclaim Miro have been right all along and wasn't just banging on'"
Are you jealous RikK?
Seriously though, why are you here?
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| Quote ="homme vaste"To provide some context behind the Flu argument;
Between 1 January and 31 August 2020, 52,327 deaths in England and Wales involved COVID-19. Out of these, 48,168 deaths were due to COVID-19: that is, COVID-19 was the underlying cause. This was 12.4% of all deaths for the period (389,835 deaths).
In the same period 69,781 deaths involved pneumonia and 506 deaths involved influenza: out of these, 13,619 and 394 deaths were due to pneumonia and influenza respectively (3.5% and 0.1% of all deaths).
Deaths related to pneumonia and influenza every year from 2014 up until 2019 range from 25,419 to 29,847 - The fact that up until August this year we have had 14,013 deaths due to pneumonia and influenza with 5 months of the year left to run and the majority of deaths been in the winter season, I think that tells the story that around the same number of deaths are going to be attributed to the flu? So if they are attributing flu deaths to COVID-19 then there are a hell of a lot more flu cases this year than there have been previously? Or maybe it is just that some posters are completely wrong and not the medical experts?'"
To provide even more context.
Flu figures can fluctuate wildly from year to year, decade to decade. The figures can only be put into context when comparing statistics over years, not a few months.
Homme Vaste, Can you give a cast iron guarantee covid is not in actual fact.......flu.
Here is a Guardian headline from Thursday, Jan 2018.
Three times more people dying from flu in UK than last winter.
It continues.....Last week there was a big jump in the number of people hospitalised with the virus and further increases in the numbers being treated in critical care units.
The toll is the highest it has been at this stage of the winter since 2014-15.
Last week 758 people were admitted to hospital as a result of flu, a big rise on the 598 the week before.
These figures are based on a sample of 22 trusts, about one-ninth of the total number and does not represent the full picture of all those admitted to a UK hospital as an emergancy because of flu.
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I don't really get it to be honest. Is it envy of his wealth or just pathetic anti-vaxxers causing trouble? I mean people can't seriously want to stop children in Africa and India from getting vaccinations can they?
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Trouble is, I’m sure I’ve seen it reported that flu deaths are now to be reported as COVID deaths. Therefore, people will never die from the flu virus again. Now, if a COVID vaccine is effective, and COVID virus is eradicated, what the hell are people going to die from in the winter months?
I know Mink flu.'"
Boredom at the minute
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| Quote ="Miro"Are you jealous RikK?
Seriously though, why are you here?'"
A very lame response and what I believe is known as politicians answer i.e. avoiding the question
I still have no idea why you bang on in this backwater, I'm sure Bill Gates nor his underlings frequent this forum.
What makes you believe that you banging on, on here will change what you say is a world reset, has David Icke anointed you and chosen Wakefield to be the place where you lead with even more banging on.
So the question is why don't you try a bigger audience what stops you fear, ridicule, being proved right, being proved wrong. I'm pretty confident the Here's Miro Show is not a game or world changer
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Absolutely BLM, are you able to let us all know what’s said at tonight’s Zoom meeting. I’ve no clue how to zoom anywhere at my age.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Absolutely BLM, are you able to let us all know what’s said at tonight’s Zoom meeting. I’ve no clue how to zoom anywhere at my age.'"
Forgot it was the zoom thing, haven’t got a clue how to do that I was hoping it was on Trin Tv myself.
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| Quote ="RickK"A very lame response and what I believe is known as politicians answer i.e. avoiding the question
I still have no idea why you bang on in this backwater, I'm sure Bill Gates nor his underlings frequent this forum.
What makes you believe that you banging on, on here will change what you say is a world reset, has David Icke anointed you and chosen Wakefield to be the place where you lead with even more banging on.
So the question is why don't you try a bigger audience what stops you fear, ridicule, being proved right, being proved wrong. I'm pretty confident the Here's Miro Show is not a game or world changer'"
Go on RikK, I'll bite.
Politicians are public servants, they get paid to answer questions, I don't.
Apparently Bill Gates does frequent these forums, why do you think so many on here suck up to him on a daily basis? Do you think they will get a lovely reward at.........jeez, I nearly said at the end of all this. Ha! We know that isn't coming anytime soon, if at all.
And for the one millionth time, it certainly feels like that, I do not say there will be a world re-set, the World Economic Forum says there is to be a “world re-set.” I simply reported it. Why is that so hard to understand? Why attribute their words to me?
David Icke. That name again. You and the other snipers keep mentioning that name. Why the obsession? Tell me about him and maybe I'll understand.
Why don't I try a bigger audience? Well, as you point out, it's the the fear........the ridicule......... the being proved wrong........... the being proved right.
Anyway RikK, I'm in good company. Many a small acorn and all of that. And you never know, out of 24,908 views maybe there is a small acorn out there in Wakefield land bound for greater things and all because of this thread.
(Go on, I'll do the snipe for you.........”You wish.”)
Happy now?
PS I don't own a corner shop. Keep a guessing. NO don't, you now have no reason to come onto a thread you appear to despise.
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Tut Tut RikK, remember what you said?
"I for one will not be commenting on any of your views"
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And for the one millionth time, it certainly feels like that, I do not say there will be a world re-set, the World Economic Forum says there is to be a “world re-set.” I simply reported it. Why is that so hard to understand? Why attribute their words to me?
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Why? Because you quote them and tell us to be worried which implies you believe them.
Why is that so hard for you to understand?
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| Quote ="PopTart"Why? Because you quote them and tell us to be worried which implies you believe them.
Why is that so hard for you to understand?'"
I do believe them and you should be worried but it aint me saying it.
For example
If Chester says Tom Johnstone is on the transfer list and I report it on here and I believe it it still isn't me saying it.
But the way people quote me it's as if I'm saying it not Chester. Now do you understand?
Now, I ask you again.
Can the deadly virus known as influenza be transmited between people in a crowd, at Bell Vue?
Is itransmition any different to the transmition of your "covid."
Once that is sorted can we discuss the likelehood of rugby returning to Belle Vue with sustainable crowds with the spectre of the deadly influenza lurking in the air. "covid or no "covid."
In Further News.
=#800000Former Chief Scientific Advisor with Pfizer Dr Mike Yeadon has claimed the Covid-19 pandemic is "fundamentally over" in the UK.
Speaking with talkRADIO's Julia Hartley-Brewer, he said: “We now know that loads of people had prior immunity, there’s an unbelievable amount of data, Whitty and Vallance have ignored it i.e. the government …I believe firmly we are now at community immunity.”
And no, before you start. I'm still not convinced covid is anything more than a strain of flu and I'm not alone. And if there is no hidden agenda, why do the government continue to lie.
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