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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I noticed Kirmo having a dig a EW's usual snidey comments on RWB Facebook but didn't see owt on twitter. EW really is the archetypal disgruntled ex-employee though.
EDIT: My mistake. Just checked and it was twitter. Just call me a doylem or diot
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Disgruntled or not, rest assured he wasn't sacked. Danny needs to be careful there
I recall a conversation he had with his late father he had in a pub we were drinking in, in Outwood, back in 2013, following watching MW, I think it was in The Woodman. His dad Dad coached me in the 70,'s, and we often had a pint and a catch up.
He had been offered his old job back, what he had previously been working at, in Malta, within the maritime sector and he was quandering over it. It was a no brainer really, and he left for that reason.
He's not disgruntled at all. I feel, as I saw him prior to the Wigan game. If a anything, he's fed up with where we're at, like we all are, and wishing he could do more to help.
He's back in maritime security now, as an Operations Manager, or something, but did say they're growing and would love to assist if they could sponsorship wise. They also have another business going too, I believe, which His wife runs.
He really has moved on.
Maybe a bit of advice to him, as an older, maybe nor so wiser friend, is he needs to come off social media for a while.
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| Not sure who EW is, or what role he had with the club.
I've seen the tweet, and legal proceedings have been threatened.
Either way, could be bad for us, or the individual.
Either way, we keep all letters of resignation and I'll be doing my damdesst to get to the bottom of this, one way or another.
We don't need this right now, we all need to pull together
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| Quote ="Luton Dreadnought"Not sure who EW is, or what role he had with the club.
I've seen the tweet, and legal proceedings have been threatened.
Either way, could be bad for us, or the individual.
Either way, we keep all letters of resignation and I'll be doing my damdesst to get to the bottom of this, one way or another.
We don't need this right now, we all need to pull together'"
How will it be bad for the club? Regardless of who started the spat, Kirmond has no current links to the club and was responding to a snide remark about his personal fitness during his spell here. A totally unnecessary and cheap shot.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Quote ="Luton Dreadnought"Not sure who EW is, or what role he had with the club.
I've seen the tweet, and legal proceedings have been threatened.
Either way, could be bad for us, or the individual.
Either way, we keep all letters of resignation and I'll be doing my damdesst to get to the bottom of this, one way or another.
We don't need this right now, we all need to pull together'"
How will it be bad for the club? Regardless of who started the spat, Kirmond has no current links to the club and was responding to a snide remark about his personal fitness during his spell here. A totally unnecessary and cheap shot.'"
It was a cheap shot, but I've seen worse in my time here. His initial remark was regarding a poor second half.
Nothing really in it to be fair, two people lashing out, who both care. Tit for tat.
I have done a bit of digging, yes he did work here, but was definitely NOT sacked. He left under his own will, and handed in a letter of notice.
Danny does need to be more careful there though, as It could be classed as deformation.
As far as I am concerned, the matter is closed, and suggest that these two put it behind them and move on.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Pardon my intrusion but, i know it's not good atm,however, you can carry on being despondent, and negative which is understandable to a degree, or you can say we are not down yet, and we will turn up, and show/shout out to the players what your club means to you. Turn up in droves ,and let them know that everyone is in this together to FIGHT to save your club from relegation. DON'T GIVE UP!
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You have no idea how bad we are ,Best laugh is your Mr Chester is the one that as caused the damage Notice you have kept him well away from the Coaching and got a lot of young players in You learnt a lot from us You just did the opposite good work ,and good look
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| Quote ="alegend"You have no idea how bad we are ,Best laugh is your Mr Chester is the one that as caused the damage Notice you have kept him well away from the Coaching and got a lot of young players in You learnt a lot from us You just did the opposite good work ,and good look'"
Sorry mate but, blaming Chester is wrong regarding your current form. Chezzy has gone so let that go. I understand how disgruntled you are but, for me, you need to get behind your club at least until the end of the season and urge them on, (You're not down yet). I don't believe you are the worst side in SL. Good Luck.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Sorry mate but, blaming Chester is wrong regarding your current form. Chezzy has gone so let that go. I understand how disgruntled you are but, for me, you need to get behind your club at least until the end of the season and urge them on, (You're not down yet). I don't believe you are the worst side in SL. Good Luck.'"
I know here he's coming from, Chester did make some bad signings, but he isn't to blame for our 'style' of play recently or the attitude of some of the players.
You're right, mathematically we are not down, but our revival would have to be on the scale of when John Kear pulled us back from the brink years ago and sadly, we don't have a John Kear this time.
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| Actually, it only has to be on the scale of when Willie took over!?
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| I think now is the time you see whether Carter is actually serious about this club or if he actually wants out. If you do go down I honestly cannot see you coming back up and you will end up like Bradford.
Getting in players at this point is too late. It should have been done weeks ago and anyway the deadline is this week. Even if you had the cap space it would be a waste of money.
You need to get someone in to help Poching. Some fresh ideas and a fresh approach will help lift the squad at least. The players showed at the beginning of this year and the end of last what they CAN do. You need someone to remind them of that and bring it out of them.
Poching has spent his career as a cone placer and drill overseer he’s way out of his depth and hasn’t the skills to get you out of this- Carter should put his hand in his pocket and get someone in if he’s serious about the club remaining in SL- if he doesn’t…. Well you have to hope another club slips up / helps you out.
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| There's been some pretty bad performances, Leeds first half at home, Leeds away, Cas Good Friday was terrible, and a few more, but being kind, i suppose there were some mitigating circumstances for those games. The worst and most unforgiveable one, obviously because of the final score, was Salford away. We had just won 2, ok not great performances, but at least we showed some fight and bottle, especially against Hull coming back like we did, then to go to Salford and to 'play' like we did was unforgiveable and bordering on unprofessional. Unless we were fielding a team of kids which we weren't, to concede 74 points is just criminal. Also, how could 'dropping' Evans & Walker from magic ever be justified?! They were arguably our best 2 along with Whitbread, and we seem to have coaches who don't reward certain players with continuity of selection, which doesn't bode well for togetherness in the camp me thinks.......
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| Quote ="jools"I think now is the time you see whether Carter is actually serious about this club or if he actually wants out. If you do go down I honestly cannot see you coming back up and you will end up like Bradford.
Getting in players at this point is too late. It should have been done weeks ago and anyway the deadline is this week. Even if you had the cap space it would be a waste of money.
You need to get someone in to help Poching. Some fresh ideas and a fresh approach will help lift the squad at least. The players showed at the beginning of this year and the end of last what they CAN do. You need someone to remind them of that and bring it out of them.
Poching has spent his career as a cone placer and drill overseer he’s way out of his depth and hasn’t the skills to get you out of this- Carter should put his hand in his pocket and get someone in if he’s serious about the club remaining in SL- if he doesn’t…. Well you have to hope another club slips up / helps you out.'"
Not sure which is actually the worst thing, getting relegated or having to read what you of all people from shudds have written, it isn't as though you give a toss.
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| Firstly, thank you for clearing that up Luton, I do appreciate it.
Secondly, I will apologise for my shot. I’m probably not the first, not the last.
One thing, I won’t accept, however, is the snide digs at me, on the likes of here, Facebook and Twitter, making me out to be the scapegoat for our financial problems back in 2012 and 2013. It was nearly 10 years ago, and barely holds any relevance now. I also wasn’t the ones in the boardroom, making decisions, such as slashing season tickets and outsourcing catering etc
It works both ways
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Firstly, thank you for clearing that up Luton, I do appreciate it.
Secondly, I will apologise for my shot. I’m probably not the first, not the last.
[uOne thing, I won’t accept, however, is the snide digs at me, on the likes of here, Facebook and Twitter,[/u making me out to be the scapegoat for our financial problems back in 2012 and 2013. It was nearly 10 years ago, and barely holds any relevance now. I also wasn’t the ones in the boardroom, making decisions, such as slashing season tickets and outsourcing catering etc
It works both ways'"
It was your agent and spokesperson Mr Wilbury what brought you to the attention of the Wakey board, followed up by that bloke from Luton getting involved in none of his business bringing it on here from twitter and faceache, you reap what you sow squire on these and that north standers, anyway apologies accepted
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| Quote ="jools"I think now is the time you see whether Carter is actually serious about this club or if he actually wants out. If you do go down I honestly cannot see you coming back up and you will end up like Bradford.
Getting in players at this point is too late. It should have been done weeks ago and anyway the deadline is this week. Even if you had the cap space it would be a waste of money.
You need to get someone in to help Poching. Some fresh ideas and a fresh approach will help lift the squad at least. The players showed at the beginning of this year and the end of last what they CAN do. You need someone to remind them of that and bring it out of them.
Poching has spent his career as a cone placer and drill overseer he’s way out of his depth and hasn’t the skills to get you out of this- Carter should put his hand in his pocket and get someone in if he’s serious about the club remaining in SL- if he doesn’t…. Well you have to hope another club slips up / helps you out.'"
As much as it pains me to agree with a Giants fan this post is 100% correct and anyone who disagrees is deluded.
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| Yes it's a fair assessment of the situation ,but realistically what can be done and who if anybody would want the job.
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| Quote ="Roverman1"Yes it's a fair assessment of the situation ,but realistically what can be done and who if anybody would want the job.'"
Should have given it Anderson in the first place. No nonsense. Will get the defence sorted out, get the forwards working well, you won’t get anything fancy but you will get simple and effective. He will be able to put something in place quickly that will work with the players you have. It’s not champagne rugby but it wins games. And the players will respect him.
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| Quote ="jools"Should have given it Anderson in the first place. No nonsense. Will get the defence sorted out, get the forwards working well, you won’t get anything fancy but you will get simple and effective. He will be able to put something in place quickly that will work with the players you have. It’s not champagne rugby but it wins games. And the players will respect him.'"
A fine endorsement, can we tell him you sent us.
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| Quote ="chissitt"A fine endorsement, can we tell him you sent us.'"
Well you don’t have much choice right now with other suitable candidates who may have been able to step in having moved on to other things. Tony smith likely won’t touch you after Brian’s short tenure with the club and the way he left. Anderson is involved in the international set up but should be able to come in on a short term agreement to try and drag you out of this mess. You need something because WP can’t get you out of this mess and the players seem unable to do so without leadership.
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| Quote ="jools"Actually no - it hasn’t at all other clubs. In a recent fan forum we learnt that our sponsorship at Huddersfield is the highest it’s ever been. Ken Davy realised that trying to grow the fan base to increase revenue was a lost cause so the emphasis was taken away from there. Instead he reduced ticket prices and increased the focus on business sponsorship. The business sponsorship brings in more revenue than money lost to ticket sales.
He didn’t build a financial advice business and sell it for 75 million by not understanding finances!'"
This is exactly what I have been saying for a long time,it is the job of the CEO/owner (call it whatever you want) to bring on the investment or get in people who can bring in the investment, it quite simply isn't good enough or proffesional to say "nobody wants to invest" a good CEO/owner gets the people to believe in the product and puts the necessary plans and procedures into place to make this happen.
We are (at the moment) playing in the elite level of rugby league but being run like a corner shop
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| Quote ="chissitt"Well there you go then, perhaps those financial genius's on here what know how to run the club could get in touch with Mr Davey to find out where Mr Carter is going wrong.'"
It's Mr Carter's job !!!!
What do.you think would happen to a CEO in any other business that didn't bring in any investment and just allowed the business to die
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Well you don’t have much choice right now with other suitable candidates who may have been able to step in having moved on to other things. Tony smith likely won’t touch you after Brian’s short tenure with the club and the way he left. Anderson is involved in the international set up but should be able to come in on a short term agreement to try and drag you out of this mess. You need something because WP can’t get you out of this mess and the players seem unable to do so without leadership.'"
It's difficult to argue with your logic here, massive problems with the fans split on whom to blame wish I had the answers like you appear to have, what I can't get my head round is your sudden concern for the plight of our club when for years you've shown nothing but open contempt for our club not forgetting the ridicule shown by you when Mr Davey not for the first time reached for the cheque book to take advantage of our financial plight by offering our players the moon on a stick, anyway enough said go get the kids off to school and get the housework done, and thank you for the input btw
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| Quote ="Trinhomeandaway"It's Mr Carter's job !!!!
What do.you think would happen to a CEO in any other business that didn't bring in any investment and[u just allowed the business to die[/u'"
Hello there
In answer to your question unless your trying to catch me out or you genuinely don't know, I would imagine he would join the ranks of the unemployed, unless you have another theory.
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