I agree with that and mentioned it a couple of weeks ago when the Salford Coach brought it up. We went through a similar dip last season around this time but luckily we had a near fully fit squad then.

My point was Shifty, some tough games coming up,and right at this moment we are creating nothing.

I agree we have injuries, but we do have what is our first choice 1,6,7 and 9 all in at the moment.

Momentum is big in sport, Leeds and Hull KR with recent wins,and trying to impress the new coach, we have some senior players at the moment that don't deserve to be in the 13.

We need to turn this round and fast

Chester just said that performance was good.

Tanginoa should be having nightmares? What about England, Brough, Miller, Hampshire, Ashurst and Randell?

Worst game I've seen in over 50 years of watching Wakefield. Two sides that created nothing at all and never looked like doing. Credit to Leeds simple rain weather game plan, where was Broughy getting us round the pitch apart from the first 10 minutes he disappeared after that.

Not what i heard from the one he made on the field, he practically repeated what most have said on here, wrong kind of RL, tried to find the killer pass too many times etc etc. but no lack of effort, that was about as positive as it got.

That was utter rubbish. No cohesion whatsoever and a lack of game nouse at crucial times. Too many senior players are underperforming. Miller is a headless chicken with no idea how to run a team. He seems to be the blue eyed boy, god only knows why, he plays well once every couple of months and to some that seems enough. England appears to have lost all impact and mobility and if Randall wants a lift to airport so he can sod off back to Australia i’ll pick him up in the morning. Oh and Chezzy, next time pick the winger on the wing rather than the ageing out and out centre. Injuries or not that team tonight should beat this Leeds team, they are poor. But they did the basics right, we went into idiot mode.

I don't think we were even that good.

Personally don't really believe in momentum, you hear it all the time in Rugby and especially Cricket, teams boss a few games and have momentum, then play rubbish the next few games, it makes no sense sometimes. i do believe in confidence and it takes time to build it up and it's very quick to sometimes lose it.

Brough, Hampshire and Miller all had shockers. Difficult to rank them separately.

Typical that we didn't take the early two on offer where as Leeds did twice.

Agar 1 Chester 0.

A 1 nil loss to Agar has got to be the biggest insult you could make to any coach, however you are correct in your statement

I'm just surprised the two above have been mentioned in any kind of negative context. Our own and that lot.

Watch the game back and point out at what part of the game Jordan made an error at PTB , I await your reply.

Giving a stupid pen away on the 4th tackle under our sticks in the second half, gifting them 2 points. You did ask.

absolutely shambolic

I don't think I can bring myself to watch it back I was meaning as defender at the play of the ball.

It was that bad that I was waiting for Ronnie Troutman and Wayne McDonald to come on as a double substitution

Correct, but he did make the tackle and that’s my point, if you don’t get involved then no mistakes which is happening with some, get involved in many tackles some will be missed and the odd penalty occurs, not rocket science

Fair point BLM but that for me applies to missed tackles. If you are making 50 then it's understandable if you miss some but if you have hands on the ball or push a player at the ptb like Batch and Lyne did, or hold down too long like I think Jordan did, then it's discipline under pressure that is the difference between an average and a good player.
A missed tackle can be covered by team mates. An uneccessary penalty takes all the responsibility on yourself.

I don't agree with NGB4C post at all but you are going to get discussion if you questions people opinion right or wrong.

Again I agree and again I’ll repeat myself, if you get involved in many tackles then you will give the odd penalty away, name me an international player from any nation that hasn’t given a penalty away when involved in the play of the ball and I’ll bow down to you.

Watched the state of origin first game and exactly the same play happened in that game when NSW were attacking and the final pass for a try went straight into gagai’s hands to race the length of the field and score, even the best players in the world make that mistake ,never mind at a rain soaked belle vue with a guy who’s only played a couple of games for us, personally I think he’s a good un , but just my opinions .

well that is at least 1 I have got right ha ha ha

us now!!!!!!

he must be thinking ! what have a I got myself into

So just over a week since my comments following the Leeds defeat.

I mentioned earlier in the this thread about potentially looking over our shoulders, and getting sucked into a relegation scrap.

Since my last comment, 2 further wins for London, and one today for Hull KR.

Getting quite tight down in the lower half of the table