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| Quote ="upthecats"No, never, he cant have.....that isn't possible....surely you've got that wrong.....'"
He would have had a better game at stand off. Sykes had some good ball and position but only thing I remember him doing is throwing an intercept for 6 points. If you take away the 18 we gifted them from our own stupid mistakes it would have been a 2 point ball game
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| But equally Sykes or Mathers might have had a much worse game at full back and may have cost us 3 or 4 tries? That's the problem when you need to accomodate a few players throughout the side who are a fair bit past their best.....about finding the best balance throughout the side....an absolute thankless task and one you will always get people questioning....just glad a few have got back from the game and said a few positive things.....can take heart for the Hull game now and dare I say it....look forward to it....
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| Quote ="upthecats"No, never, he cant have.....that isn't possible....surely you've got that wrong.....'"
He also made two mistakes that lead directly to Huddersfield tries. Now if he'd have been in the halves....
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| I don't personally think its a disadvantage to our attack having Sammut at fullback, he is involved in everything. The problem is Sykes at halfback . Think Harry will come good if given a fair shot, perhaps Siejka and Godinet ???? Definitely keep Mathers from fullback ,its a pleasure to see some-one catching the ball on the full and making one-on-one tackles when needed.
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| I thought the mistakes he made looked down to tiredness as much as anything, he was one who gave his all on Friday as well. I just thought he had a good game today...
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| I suppose we should be grateful. Putting effort in? Well how jolly good of them. Just showa how low expectations are now. A twenty point loss doesn't seem quite so bad now.
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| Sammuts problem is he is always prone to a major blooper like today and that is much more exposed and often more costly at fullback. He gets his hands on the ball just as much at stand off but is less likely to cost a try. Fullback is a problem but for me sammut is better served in the halves alongside Godinet. McShane and Wildie to rotate at hooker. Siejka was signed before Sammut but didn't arrive til afterwards. Unless he is a decent fullback then for me he is the odd one out.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"I suppose we should be grateful. Putting effort in? Well how jolly good of them. Just showa how low expectations are now. A twenty point loss doesn't seem quite so bad now.'"
That's the thing, some people will be happy with today's result after the shed load of points we have conceded lately.
Finishing 12th this year is acceptable but no one is coming up, so I fear for us next year.
Who is going to help us next season?
We should be aiming for 10th this year.
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| Next year is not the problem…yet ! Lets just get through this season eh? Not praising/backing Agar but people have made out he'd lost the dressing room and players weren't trying…not so today. Was mentioned on Radio Wakey are having their pre-season now with the late recruitment ….we will see if things are any better after the rest next week.
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| Can't really understand this team bashing after todays result. What the hell did you expect with half the team missing, players in unfamiliar positions and playing away to a team who in my opinion are still top four material?
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| Quote ="sandaltrinityfan"Can't really understand this team bashing after todays result. What the hell did you expect with half the team missing, players in unfamiliar positions and playing away to a team who in my opinion are still top four material?'"
How about players in familiar positions, isn't that a reasonable expectation ?
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| In an ideal World yes.....the type of things that have been tried of late are all things you would do in pre-season are they not? Maybe that is why we have been up against it....when 3 of the players arrived just days before the opening match and then 2 more pivot players have arrived since.....add in to that the poor form Mathers was showing and the calls from every man and his dog to drop him and that might be why there has been so much shuffling around.....it aint been ideal, but it still isn't the end of the World yet.....we've been getting beat but there is definite signs we have wins in us......keep the faith....
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| Quote ="jack in the box"How about players in familiar positions, isn't that a reasonable expectation ?'"
Of course it is and I didn't go today so cannot comment on individuals efforts. I stand by what I said though, the result could have been much worse.
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| Quote ="sandaltrinityfan"Of course it is and I didn't go today so cannot comment on individuals efforts. I stand by what I said though, the result could have been much worse.'"
Without the 18 they scored off our errors we might have had a sniff at winning it
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Without the 18 they scored off our errors we might have had a sniff at winning it'"
Sounds as though Walshaw had a good game, perhaps he may have earned a run at centre now?
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| I think the out of position thing is going over the top.
The only person not playing a position they have played on a regular basis is Mathers.
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"That's the thing, some people will be happy with today's result after the shed load of points we have conceded lately.
Finishing 12th this year is acceptable but no one is coming up, so I fear for us next year.
Who is going to help us next season?
We should be aiming for 10th this year.'"
We've got to be realistic with the turmoil at the start of this season staying in the 12 this season would be a success taking us into next seasons new structure with full funding. Until we get into the new ground or get a sugar daddy on board we're highly likely to be involved in the end of season middle tier, and doing that as a SL club is vital because it will be hard in that middle 8 as a championship club
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Without the 18 they scored off our errors we might have had a sniff at winning it'" got that dead right tricky. thought Lucas had a great game and Wakey played some decent rugby. cut out the errors and we won't be far away. Scruton didn't look as though he is at 100%. thought Raleigh took it to them up front. I'd still like to see Pitter with Sammut in the halves. mathers back to fullback and mcshane and matty at interchange. I said last week i saw improvement against cas . when you think cas have just done wire by 40 points to 6 we didn't do too bad and this week there was another definite improvement. the effort and the graft was there to be seen
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| Eh they certainly surprised by the score, but then the brother in law who doesn't miss games came round and said Huddersfield were rubish
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| Quote ="upthecats"In an ideal World yes.....the type of things that have been tried of late are all things you would do in pre-season are they not? Maybe that is why we have been up against it....when 3 of the players arrived just days before the opening match and then 2 more pivot players have arrived since.....add in to that the poor form Mathers was showing and the calls from every man and his dog to drop him and that might be why there has been so much shuffling around.....it aint been ideal, but it still isn't the end of the World yet.....we've been getting beat but there is definite signs we have wins in us......keep the faith....'"
As we have had late arrivals, would it not be sensible, that when you find half back pairing that works and is going well, to leave it alone?
Don't think it would have mattered if the players had arrived 3 months before the start of the season rather than 3 days, still think there would have been silly positional choices and shuffling about.
Got a blank weekend next week, let's see if they have 'gelled' by the next game?
If Walshaw played well today, will he be dropped so Lyne can be accommodated?
I wait for the next instalment of this mystery tour.
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| Quote ="try scorer"Eh they certainly surprised by the score, but then the brother in law who doesn't miss games came round and said Huddersfield were rubish'" they weren't rubbish but they certainly capitalised on wakefields silly mistakes
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| As for Walshaw playing, if Keinhorst wasn't injured I'd bet that he'd be selected before him. Nice to hear him playing well though.
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| Thought you competed well today. Impressed with your No. 15.
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| Thought some of your young players put some effort in today, the tall blond lad at left centre looked decent as did the half back, Siejka ??
To be fair there were 2 poor sides on show today, don't think we ever got out of 1st gear but never looked like losing, some of your players looked half ar$ed at times and clearly Agar is no motivating them to be better.
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Agar really does not know his best pivots? Surely the game v St.Helens at home tells him Mathers at 1, Sammut 6, Godinet 7, Mcshane at 9 with Tautai at 13? Siejka/Wildie bench hooker/utility. We need an additional prop playing at loose forward who is a handful like Tautai/Moore to help us with real go forward. Washbrook is not good enough at present IMHO.
Not sure all Sammut's efforts in defence take away some of his energy to create at fullback?
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“It’s been hard for us to know what our best 1, 6, 7, 9 combination has been because we’ve playing with such a limited amount of football. It gives him (Sammut) the opportunity to get on more plays with us and it gives him the freedom in attack to use his great attributes which are his speed and anticipation.
“It takes away a little of the ball playing responsibilities for him. It’s difficult to know what’s best for us because we’ve had limited ball and we’ve had to chop and change, sometimes through necessity and sometimes because we don’t feel we have been doing the job well enough. We’ll have a look over these next few weeks.
“Siejka has shown some alright signs. He needs to get a little bit more match fit and Godinet’s shown some really smart pieces of play as well. We’ll have a look and try to find something that works for us and give it a chance.”
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Agar really does not know his best pivots? Surely the game v St.Helens at home tells him Mathers at 1, Sammut 6, Godinet 7, Mcshane at 9 with Tautai at 13? Siejka/Wildie bench hooker/utility. We need an additional prop playing at loose forward who is a handful like Tautai/Moore to help us with real go forward. Washbrook is not good enough at present IMHO.
Not sure all Sammut's efforts in defence take away some of his energy to create at fullback?
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“It’s been hard for us to know what our best 1, 6, 7, 9 combination has been because we’ve playing with such a limited amount of football. It gives him (Sammut) the opportunity to get on more plays with us and it gives him the freedom in attack to use his great attributes which are his speed and anticipation.
“It takes away a little of the ball playing responsibilities for him. It’s difficult to know what’s best for us because we’ve had limited ball and we’ve had to chop and change, sometimes through necessity and sometimes because we don’t feel we have been doing the job well enough. We’ll have a look over these next few weeks.
“Siejka has shown some alright signs. He needs to get a little bit more match fit and Godinet’s shown some really smart pieces of play as well. We’ll have a look and try to find something that works for us and give it a chance.”
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