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| Yet again the slow start cost us.
Don't knock Jowitt with his knock on near the end, his one on one tackling kept us in the game.
Would certainly keep him in, Miller just not doing enough for me, whether he's still not fit, or the burden of captaincy
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| We can’t keep starting games so slow, it happens way too often. We keep giving ourselves too much to do, it asks an awful lot to be near perfect in the second half of games. Well played Max Jowitt, 3 try saving tackles. And once again Miller flatters to deceive. Fingers crossed big Dave isn’t too bad.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"We can’t keep starting games so slow, it happens way too often. We keep giving ourselves too much to do, it asks an awful lot to be near perfect in the second half of games. Well played Max Jowitt, 3 try saving tackles. And once again Miller flatters to deceive. Fingers crossed big Dave isn’t too bad.'"
I’d say 2 try saving tackles and an absolute unforgivable error under the kick, where he’s supposed to be strong.
Rocky back to FB with Brough and Miller in the halves.
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| Or keep Jowitt at FB, Brough and Hampshire in the halves. Miller was poor today and no player should be exempt from being dropped.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Or keep Jowitt at FB, Brough and Hampshire in the halves. Miller was poor today and no player should be exempt from being dropped.'"
I would say Millers game is purely based on the half he is playing with, we needed Brough today... to slow things down and to ensure there was structure within the play. Miller generally plays freely on the back of this, as does Rocky.
I wouldn’t drop him, I’d let him prove his worth when he’s got Brough back with him.
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| felt for Jowitt after that knock on as he was head and shoulders the best player today
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| Jowitt MOM for me, blotted his copybook with the error towards the end but couldn't fault him for the rest. Had Batchelor passed inside when we were on a roll I think we'd have won the game, fine margins again. Fingers crossed for Big Dave, that looked nasty, we need all our big guns for next week.
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| Wouldn't risk Dave next week. Perfect game to see how we can cope without him.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"I’d say 2 try saving tackles and an absolute unforgivable error under the kick, where he’s supposed to be strong.
Rocky back to FB with Brough and Miller in the halves.'"
Two in the first half and one on Langi in the second. The drop wasn’t good granted but the rest of his game was very good, including the try assist for BJB. If we are rewarding performances as Chester has previously said then Miller should be nowhere near the team next week with Brough back.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Two in the first half and one on Langi in the second. The drop wasn’t good granted but the rest of his game was very good, including the try assist for BJB. If we are rewarding performances as Chester has previously said then Miller should be nowhere near the team next week with Brough back.'"
Also not forgetting the pass that nearly put MCB in. If that had happened infront of the TJ on the other side it would not have been given forward.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Also not forgetting the pass that nearly put MCB in. If that had happened infront of the TJ on the other side it would not have been given forward.'"
The catalans players stopped. He wouldn't have scored
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| Once again, a poor first half killed us, but Catalan were very strong today.
What I couldn't understand was why Kyle Wood turned his back and ducked when charging down the drop-goal. I wouldn't like a ball kicked into my face but he actually got out of the way of the ball.
Top 5 isn't out of the way yet. Saints could do us a favour tomorrow by putting a big score past Cas, which would put us back in 5th, and Hull's points difference is so bad that if we win the next game and they lose we'd go fourth. Every team has a rough patch, but we can't keep giving away big first half leads.
Whatever the frustration, I'd rather be us than a Wigan or Leeds fan this year.
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| Funny how people were moaning and groaning when brough was announced as our new signing ,now he’s our go to man .Max’s one one one tackle was as good as I’ve seen and his performance bar that blip was first class. When we shift the ball about we go places but the one man pedestrian rugby which we played in the first half cramps our style and play and the dragons could deal with that all day .Too many unforced errors and lack of cohesion in first half again cost us a very winnable game again.
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| After a poor first half in which we still seemed hung over from last week, the second 40 was massively better and the game swung on 2 things.
First off, the two forward passes, our "try" chalked off and the Catalan effort allowed to stand.
FWIW, the call on ours was correct but, the Catalan effort was more forward, an absolute shocker from the officials.
But, THE biggest moment was from the Batchelor break. There was good support either side and we should have capitalised on that effort, which due to how much on top we were at the time, would very likely have allowed us to seal the game, even though there was still a long way to go.
We also had a position to go for a DG but, lacked the organisation and ability to go for it.
The Fifita injury is a huge worry.
He and Brough are the two players who can win games for us and we just have to hope that his injury is not too serious but, he didn't look great.
Overall though a massive improvement against a very god Catalan side and I believe that we can certainly push for a play off spot.
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| Feel a huge frustration as a supporter at the moment over the close games that haven’t gone our way. There was just so much promise of a big year at the start of the season and we can’t yet write off the chance of achieving something top 5 wise or in the cup.
The players we lost long term have been massive losses and our whole game plan has gone out of the window. For the returning players you can’t just expect them to slot straight back in so Miller is getting some unfair stick in my opinion. Same with players who’ve come in - Junior Sau is here to plug a hole until BT returns.
We’re going to have to do it extremely tough at Saints next week and then Leeds at home we cannot afford a balls up.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Top 5 hopes taken another big hit.'"
top 5 is gone mate- surely we have London covered still they cant win 5 more games can they?
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| What a frustrating spectacle that was - and where these slow, lethargic starts come from is an absolute mystery; I don't know how you fix that, but it needs fixing - we keep giving ourselves too much to do in the second half.
I too thought Miller was poor - but then I don't think him and Hampshire are a good match; too similar. Max Jowitt was head and shoulders MoTM - and I put a significant part of the blame for that drop on BJB - they confused each other when it needed a strong call one way or the other.
Super frustrating to see yet another try awarded for a blatant forward pass; everyone in the stadium and the TV studio spotted it - but 4 match officials, who's actual job it is to do so, failed to; embarrassing.
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| Strange how people are selective in their criticism.If it had been Lynne or Miller ,for example ,who had not passed the ball for a certain try all hell would have broken loose on this forum and others.
Hardly a word though about Batchelor’s holding on to the ball .
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| You are right Beagle about batch not passing .Makes you think that a lot of people on this forum have ever seenWakefield
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Once again, a poor first half killed us, but Catalan were very strong today.
What I couldn't understand was why Kyle Wood turned his back and ducked when charging down the drop-goal. I wouldn't like a ball kicked into my face but he actually got out of the way of the ball.
[uTop 5 isn't out of the way yet. Saints could do us a favour tomorrow by putting a big score past Cas, which would put us back in 5th, and Hull's points difference is so bad that if we win the next game and they lose we'd go fourth. Every team has a rough patch, but we can't keep giving away big first half leads.[/u
Whatever the frustration, I'd rather be us than a Wigan or Leeds fan this year.'"
It definitely isn't - we've still got 13 games left and 26 points to play for, so miles to go in this season yet. We've also seen that the teams just above us Hull, Cas and Catalans are consistently inconsistent, so it's up to us to pull our finger out and start these games with a bit more aggression and intensity. We went through a few loses last year around this time and managed to turn the season around somewhat with a few key wins and we need to do the same again. Hopefully as we get back to nearly full strength we can discover some good form again.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Once again, a poor first half killed us, but Catalan were very strong today.
What I couldn't understand was why Kyle Wood turned his back and ducked when charging down the drop-goal. I wouldn't like a ball kicked into my face but he actually got out of the way of the ball.
Top 5 isn't out of the way yet. Saints could do us a favour tomorrow by putting a big score past Cas, which would put us back in 5th, and Hull's points difference is so bad that if we win the next game and they lose we'd go fourth. Every team has a rough patch, but we can't keep giving away big first half leads.
Whatever the frustration, I'd rather be us than a Wigan or Leeds fan this year.'"
wigan will finish higher than us this year
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| Quote ="BOJ042"wigan will finish higher than us this year'"
The oracle has spoken.
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| What a shame we couldn't have played tonight's Catalan team!
Still amazed at how Hull could concede 55 on Saturday and then come up with 51.
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| Quote ="Two Points"What a shame we couldn't have played tonight's Catalan team!'"
Thought exactly the same myself.
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| A few of us Cas fans watched it together. Gobsmacked. How does Radders explain that away?
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