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| Quote ="snowie"icon_biggrin.gifOH: hope you have a good lawyer
like bren2k said we are not the first and we won't be the last club to have the HMRC come knocking at the door'"
Actually I believe it's pretty well known that Wigan haven't done that I believe the only other team who have had any tax issues have been Crusaders in recent times. It is at the end of the day an attempt at fraudulently not paying your taxes if you end up with that. I don't see how a sports team in this day and age can get their taxes so wrong I mean surely they can all afford at least an expert lawyer I mean my uncles a lawyer and I believe he is on around 35k a year so needing a lawyer for a few weeks or even for a full year cant exactly be the most expensive thing in the grand scheme of things.
Anyway this topic wasnt about that it was about the stadium and the tax thing is a reason you cant afford it. I was sympathising with you all I would hate Wigan to be in this mess but I had it thrown back in my face as though I was subversively mocking you instead.
I actually like(ed) Wakey (apart from your idiot head coach) but now I am glad you may not be in the league any more because your fans are unwelcoming when they get sympathy! I would hate to see what happens if another team's fan comes on here going "haha no new stadium" etc.
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| Quote ="hula89"Actually I believe it's pretty well known that Wigan haven't done that I believe the only other team who have had any tax issues have been Crusaders in recent times. It is at the end of the day an attempt at fraudulently not paying your taxes if you end up with that. I don't see how a sports team in this day and age can get their taxes so wrong I mean surely they can all afford at least an expert lawyer I mean my uncles a lawyer and I believe he is on around 35k a year so needing a lawyer for a few weeks or even for a full year cant exactly be the most expensive thing in the grand scheme of things.
Anyway this topic wasnt about that it was about the stadium and the tax thing is a reason you cant afford it. I was sympathising with you all I would hate Wigan to be in this mess but I had it thrown back in my face as though I was subversively mocking you instead.
I actually like(ed) Wakey (apart from your idiot head coach) but now I am glad you may not be in the league any more because your fans are unwelcoming when they get sympathy! I would hate to see what happens if another team's fan comes on here going "haha no new stadium" etc.'"
What a complete load of twaddle!!!
There has to be an intention to deceive for it to be fraud.
So you are suggesting all the sporting clubs in soccer,rugby union,rugby league etc.....that have used image rights have committed fraud?
Come back when youve matured a bit!!!
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"What a complete load of twaddle!!!
There has to be an intention to deceive for it to be fraud.
So you are suggesting all the sporting clubs in soccer,rugby union,rugby league etc.....that have used image rights have committed fraud?
Come back when youve matured a bit!!!'"
No point even debating with him, the whole image rights despite been explained to him has quite obviously gone over his head!
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| Quote ="hula89"Actually I believe it's pretty well known that Wigan haven't done that .
Cos Wigan have never bent the rules have they,what about (allegedlly)Steve Renouff playing for £10,000 a year while his wife working in the shop was earning a reported £45,000 a year?
Oh and wasn't it (allegedlly) Chris Radlinski that played half a season for free?
Oh and in the year that Wigan managed to avoid relegation wasn't it (allegedlly) Stuart Fielden who was only paid a pittance but the next tax year saw his wage increase astronomically?
And they're just three from the top of my head!
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| Quote ="deeHell"No point even debating with him, the whole image rights despite been explained to him has quite obviously gone over his head!'"
Fair point,but you cant just give up on the youth of today(however thick they may appear),we must continue to try and educate them.
Hopefully his lawyer uncle will help out with his education.
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| It's like ambers back with all these youth/kid quotes cropping up.
Does he move in mysterious ways?
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Fair point,but you cant just give up on the youth of today(however thick they may appear),we must continue to try and educate them.
[uHopefully his lawyer uncle will help out with his education[/u.'"
I wouldn't have thought so after posting his salary on here.
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| Quote ="hula89"Actually I believe it's pretty well known that Wigan haven't done that <snip>.'"
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| Look I came here to sympathise with a rugby team in trouble obviously all your fans are interested in is making other fans unwelcome on your board.
I'm a Wigan fan, yes but I'm a RL fan first but you all seem to ignore this fact and bring my club allegiances into it.
Good riddance in April lads
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| Oh and to add I'm a University student and my last piece of work got a First class and I am currently working at a 2:1 average in my final year so don't call me uneducated.
I don't come on these boards to argue I come to discuss rugby but you're all clearly incapable of this unless its praising your team.
Hope you don't get a stadium.
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| Quote ="hula89"Look I came here to sympathise with a rugby team in trouble obviously all your fans are interested in is making other fans unwelcome on your board.
I'm a Wigan fan, yes =#FF0000but I'm a RL fan first but you all seem to ignore this fact and bring my club allegiances into it.
Good riddance in April lads
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take your blinkers off,
so a few supporters have up set you because they have stood up to constant barrage from all fans not just you
you once like us now you don't, what does that say about you,
RL fan not grow up
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| Quote ="hula89"Oh and to add I'm a University student and my last piece of work got a First class and I am currently working at a 2:1 average in my final year so don't call me uneducated.
I don't come on these boards to argue I come to discuss rugby but you're all clearly incapable of this unless its praising your team.
Hope you don't get a stadium.'" dare I say it you come on here and accuse the club of being fraudulent to the tax man and expect the supporters not to have a go back at you,
with comments like that it could get you in deep ,
you want to talk about rugby fine but I'm sure at the age of 21 you can't that experienced to know the ins and outs of running a business
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| Quote ="hula89"Oh and to add I'm a University student and my last piece of work got a First class and I am currently working at a 2:1 average in my final year so don't call me uneducated.
I don't come on these boards to argue I come to discuss rugby but you're all clearly incapable of this unless its praising your team.
Hope you don't get a stadium.'"
Shush now - the grown-ups are talking.
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| Quote ="hula89"Oh and to add I'm a University student and my last piece of work got a First class and I am currently working at a 2:1 average in my final year so don't call me uneducated.
I don't come on these boards to argue I come to discuss rugby but you're all clearly incapable of this unless its praising your team.
Hope you don't get a stadium.'"
Translated to:
I couldnt be bothered to get a proper job and universities accept any dross these days.
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| Quote ="hula89"Oh and to add I'm a University student and my last piece of work got a First class and I am currently working at a 2:1 average in my final year so don't call me uneducated.
I don't come on these boards to argue I come to discuss rugby but you're all clearly incapable of this unless its praising your team.
Hope you don't get a stadium.'"
Working toward degree well done, you are not exclusive to that many people who post on here already have a degree (myself included), but as that has no relevance to the issue being discussed most of the time people choose not to mention it. Just because you are working toward a degree doesn't exclusively remove you from being referred to as uneducated.
I love the way you place yourself on a mantle to look down on us mere mortals. Having an education does automatically give you the high ground when it comes to rational argument or common sense. I take reading your earlier posts that your degree isn't Law. If it were you would have the common sense and education to know that facing a winding up order does not constitute 'tax fraud'. However you making such allegations does allow for the other party to consider legal action, if you were as educated as you think you are, then you would be fully aware that remark is libelous.
As for your comment about praising the team, you clearly do not read the forums very often. If you did you would be fully aware that we Wakefield supporters are the worst ones for actually praising our team.
Your lecturer will be so proud at your undoubted level of maturity you showed in your final sentence.
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| 2:1's are easy and everyone's got a degree these days. I got a 2:1 and I was drunk most of the time. And you'll still end up on the bins or asking people if they want to supersize it.
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| Quote ="trinfan71"Working toward degree well done, you are not exclusive to that many people who post on here already have a degree (myself included), but as that has no relevance to the issue being discussed most of the time people choose not to mention it. Just because you are working toward a degree doesn't exclusively remove you from being referred to as uneducated.
I love the way you place yourself on a mantle to look down on us mere mortals. Having an education does automatically give you the high ground when it comes to rational argument or common sense. I take reading your earlier posts that your degree isn't Law. If it were you would have the common sense and education to know that facing a winding up order does not constitute 'tax fraud'. However you making such allegations does allow for the other party to consider legal action, if you were as educated as you think you are, then you would be fully aware that remark is libelous.
As for your comment about praising the team, you clearly do not read the forums very often. If you did you would be fully aware that we Wakefield supporters are the worst ones for actually praising our team.
Your lecturer will be so proud at your undoubted level of maturity you showed in your final sentence.'"
totally agree with your first point, my step son is in year 11 and he has been "given" 2 gcse grades for going on a two week course, 1 gcse for going on a two day course. he could potentialy have 12 gcse's at the end of this academic year, and no rocket scientist is he!!
to get even the thickest into college they just hand out gcse's for going on courses where you will get 1 for being able to breathe in and out unaided and being able to go to the toilet on your own and not causing "too much" mess!!
it honestly is that simple, no wonder our school posted its best ever year for exam results this year.
and totally disagree with your second point, we do not, what a horrible thing to say, youve really hurt my feelings now!!
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| Quote ="hula89"Oh and to add I'm a University student and my last piece of work got a First class and I am currently working at a 2:1 average in my final year so don't call me uneducated.
I don't come on these boards to argue I come to discuss rugby but you're all clearly incapable of this unless its praising your team.
Hope you don't get a stadium.'"
Biggest dummy spit ever?
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| Quote ="hula89"Oh and to add I'm a University student and my last piece of work got a First class and I am currently working at a 2:1 average in my final year so don't call me uneducated.
I don't come on these boards to argue I come to discuss rugby but you're all clearly incapable of this unless its praising your team.
Hope you don't get a stadium.'"
When I went to University they required you to have a basic understanding of English as well, obviously grammar and punctuation no longer matter. If you're unsure what I'm referring to have a read back through your previous posts.
I'm really glad that 'A' levels are not getting easier though, otherwise we'd have some right idiots getting into universities these days.
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| Quote ="hula89"Oh and to add I'm a University student and my last piece of work got a First class and I am currently working at a 2:1 average in my final year so don't call me uneducated.
I don't come on these boards to argue I come to discuss rugby but you're all clearly incapable of this unless its praising your team.
Hope you don't get a stadium.'"
I have two degree's, one in Sports Performance Coaching and the other in Physical Education (both 2:1) I don't believe that shows that I am educated, it shows that I am relatively well educated in those area's. You are proving that you are not educated, just an expert in pathetic dummy spatting.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"2:1's are easy and everyone's got a degree these days. I got a 2:1 and I was drunk most of the time. And you'll still end up on the bins or asking people if they want to supersize it.'"
This will upset the highly educated Hulahoop.
However, I very much doubt he will be reading this thread now, he will probably be too busy studying his 'Dummies Guide to Trolling'
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| Quote ="Fordy"I'm really glad that 'A' levels are not getting easier though, otherwise we'd have some right idiots getting into universities these days.'"
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Quite right. Our goldfish "Bubbles" is really proud of his 2.1 in Business Administration. He studied hard the day before his finals, but it was worth all the effort in the end. You can see the extra confidence it's given him in the way he swims purposefully round the tank. "Be all you can be, Bubbles" I say to him, as he surfaces once a day for that dessicated fly mixture, or whatever the hell it is that's in the stuff we feed him...'"
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| Quote ="hula89"Oh and to add I'm a University student and my last piece of work got a First class and I am currently working at a 2:1 average in my final year so don't call me uneducated.
I don't come on these boards to argue I come to discuss rugby but you're all clearly incapable of this unless its praising your team.
[uHope you don't get a stadium[/u.'"
Kinda hoped you would start putting meat in the pies instead of that mucky brown slush you serve up.
Good look at university all the same
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