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| Quote ="chissitt"Well as it goes I happen to know a fella who is a senior partner in a global security business or so he says and is by his own admission along with his family massive KR fans, maybe he's bank rolling them.'"
You can't resist the digs can you, but no we are not bank rolling any, though haven't ruled out doing any sponsorship in the near future. Thank you for the little plug though, every little helps.
We started out in the maritime sector, but are branching out further and wider, and will be looking into event security in the very near future, including sports and concerts etc, and I will be contacting all professional sports clubs, promoting our services.
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| Quote ="jonh"Has Batch come out and said that?
I don’t think it’s a dig at Wakefield him leaving more a desire to try somewhere else.
He’s sat and watched his brother go from a Fev player to an international whilst he has somewhat stagnated.
I thought he was outstanding towards the end of last year but prior to that he hadn’t kicked on.
It was a miracle he signed his last contract with Trinity so I don’t think it was unexpected he would go when it concluded. I genuinely think he would have gone to any club in SL because that is what he felt he needed, a change of scenery was something he needed personally.'"
Yes, he has mate, when he signed.
“Personally, I want to really kick on at KR and be challenging for things every year. I want to win some silverware. I think we can do something special as a team."
"I spoke to Willie about the club, himself and how he wants to play and within ten minutes he’d sold me on it. I think how Willie (Peters) wants us to play and what he values as a coach is exactly the environment I want to be a part of.”
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Some French media reporting that we are talking with Dylan Napa.
Not sure, he is a quality player and loved him in the NRL but hasn`t seemed to perform at Catalan, also has shown some poor discipline which he would need to tidy up.'"
Frankly I don't cere, he's big, definitely tough and experienced, he will do for me. We need some bite up front even if it costs us occasionally..
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Some French media reporting that we are talking with Dylan Napa.
Not sure, he is a quality player and loved him in the NRL but hasn`t seemed to perform at Catalan, also has shown some poor discipline which he would need to tidy up.'"
Kind of agree. Hasn't really played well since his time at the Roosters to be honest, he underachieved at both Canterbury & Catalan and is a bit of a penalty machine that picks up his fair share of suspensions. Just turned 30 so he still has time but to me he looks like the kind of player the modern day fast game is moving on from. The six again rule, less stoppages and penalty crack downs doesn't really suit him. Maybe worth a punt if Catalans are paying a good chunk of his wages but i wouldn't be loosening the wallet too much for him.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Kind of agree. Hasn't really played well since his time at the Roosters to be honest, he underachieved at both Canterbury & Catalan and is a bit of a penalty machine that picks up his fair share of suspensions. Just turned 30 so he still has time but to me he looks like the kind of player the modern day fast game is moving on from. The six again rule, less stoppages and penalty crack downs doesn't really suit him. Maybe worth a punt if Catalans are paying a good chunk of his wages but i wouldn't be loosening the wallet too much for him.'"
Nothings ever quite right for you.
We are looking for a big strong no nonsense prop, not one of the Apostles who happens to be the best OOC player in the world. What exactly are you expecting exactly from a player? Since when did 192 NRL games and 7 SOO appearances become undesirable in a player, I mean seriously, picky is not the word for it.
Some of the names bandied around on here have never been close to Napa, some barely played SL!
Sorry to sound like I'm having a go, but it's getting daft now, if we get Napa it's a massive coup IMO and way better than some that are being paid big money in SL, again IMO.
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| Quote ="vastman"Nothings ever quite right for you.
We are looking for a big strong no nonsense prop, not one of the Apostles who happens to be the best OOC player in the world. What exactly are you expecting exactly from a player? Since when did 192 NRL games and 7 SOO appearances
Some of the names bandied around on here have never been close to Napa, some barely played SL!
Sorry to sound like I'm having a go, but it's getting daft now, if we get Napa it's a massive coup IMO and way better than some that are being paid big money in SL, again IMO.'"
I gave my opinion of him. It differs to yours. Deal with it.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Some French media reporting that we are talking with Dylan Napa.
Not sure, he is a quality player and loved him in the NRL but hasn`t seemed to perform at Catalan, also has shown some poor discipline which he would need to tidy up.'"
The media report I saw said we were initially interested in Napa and that the interest has cooled recently with trinity exploring options. That led to suggestions Catalans may have to pay Napa’s contract out.
Personally I watched him for Cook Islands and he didn’t look fit or imposing. Looked to be out of shape and carrying some extra pounds.
If Catalans could sub a % of his wages and we could get him fit he could be an option. He has some size.
I would hope we have 2 props signed up soon though. Was hoping to hear something on Atoni we were rumoured to be quite far down securing.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"The media report I saw said we were initially interested in Napa and that the interest has cooled recently with trinity exploring options. That led to suggestions Catalans may have to pay Napa’s contract out.
Personally I watched him for Cook Islands and he didn’t look fit or imposing. Looked to be out of shape and carrying some extra pounds.
If Catalans could sub a % of his wages and we could get him fit he could be an option. He has some size.
I would hope we have 2 props signed up soon though. Was hoping to hear something on Atoni we were rumoured to be quite far down securing.'"
Sorry Trojan but I just don't get the logic maybe the game has changed and I haven't noticed but it must have only happened in the last few months, because Napa was a start this time last year as was ant 7 times SOO player.
Napa is a big match player with a genuine pedigree, Atoni is a total punt. I don't mind either tbh but if I were wanting one it would be Nap by a mile, the bloke is class and as the cliche goes, class is permanent.
PS: Nobody could have been less fit that big Dave when he arrives, and he did ok.
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| Quote ="vastman"Sorry Trojan but I just don't get the logic maybe the game has changed and I haven't noticed but it must have only happened in the last few months, because Napa was a start this time last year as was ant 7 times SOO player.
Napa is a big match player with a genuine pedigree, Atoni is a total punt. I don't mind either tbh but if I were wanting one it would be Nap by a mile, the bloke is class and as the cliche goes, class is permanent.
PS: Nobody could have been less fit that big Dave when he arrives, and he did ok.'"
I watched Napa a couple of times for Catalans and in the WC for Cook Islands. He was pretty poor imo. Didn’t look like at all what you describe.
Also, some players can carry an extra stone and it even helps some players. Big Dave could carry it and use it. Watching Napa in the WC he looked lethargic and unfit.
I’d be fine with signing Napa but I hope we see the Napa you’re describing and not the one in WC.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Yes, he has mate, when he signed.
“Personally, I want to really kick on at KR and be challenging for things every year. I want to win some silverware. I think we can do something special as a team."
"I spoke to Willie about the club, himself and how he wants to play and within ten minutes he’d sold me on it. I think how Willie (Peters) wants us to play and what he values as a coach is exactly the environment I want to be a part of.”'"
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| Quote ="vastman"Sorry Trojan but I just don't get the logic maybe the game has changed and I haven't noticed but it must have only happened in the last few months, because Napa was a start this time last year as was ant 7 times SOO player.
Napa is a big match player with a genuine pedigree, Atoni is a total punt. I don't mind either tbh but if I were wanting one it would be Nap by a mile, the bloke is class and as the cliche goes, class is permanent.
PS: Nobody could have been less fit that big Dave when he arrives, and he did ok.'"
Jarred Hickey was certainly less fit than Big Dave
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[iOne club that has been linked with Napa is Wakefield Trinity. However, Rugby League Live understands that there is currently no chance of that move happening due to Napa's wage demands. It's believed that his representatives are commanding a package that would make him one of the best-paid players in Super League, leaving Wakefield out of the picture unless those demands change drastically.[/i
As i said i certainly wouldn't be breaking the bank for him. Neither though will anyone else i should have thought so they might be stuck with him if they aren't willing to pay him off.
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Bit that stands out to me was this bit..
[iOne club that has been linked with Napa is Wakefield Trinity. However, Rugby League Live understands that there is currently no chance of that move happening due to Napa's wage demands. It's believed that his representatives are commanding a package that would make him one of the best-paid players in Super League, leaving Wakefield out of the picture unless those demands change drastically.[/i
As i said i certainly wouldn't be breaking the bank for him. Neither though will anyone else i should have thought so they might be stuck with him if they aren't willing to pay him off.'"
Still excited to see who we bring in.
I just noticed Fev have signed Riley Dean on loan. If there was a chance of that it would have been a good option of back up/rotation halfback. There’s always the chance that Wire wouldn’t let him go to another SL club.
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| Napa would be the best prop at the club, he's just what we need. What's in our favour here is there's very few clubs with a quota spot, and Catalans need the cap space. There's a good chance that as we get closer to the season they'll become more open to paying a large part of his wages. Wouldn't be surprised to see a loan/12 month deal if our other targets don't materialise.
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Anyway another article on the subject. [urlhttps://www.totalrl.com/super-league-forward-may-be-forced-to-play-for-reserves-if-deal-with-rivals-not-forthcoming/[/url
[iWITH most Super League clubs having done their wheeling and dealing for the 2023 season, the focus is firmly on to pre-season.
However, for a few clubs in particular, recruitment has perhaps some lengths to go before it is finalised.
That is certainly the case for Catalans Dragons and Wakefield Trinity with both having a number of spaces left on the quota in order to bring in overseas stars.
With Wakefield linked with Catalans prop Dylan Napa, that would have repercussions for both Super League sides, freeing up another quota space for the French club and bringing Trinity’s quota number to six.
According to French publication, L’Independant, if Wakefield do not sign Napa, then he “will be made available to the reserve team of Saint-Estève / XIII Catalan, upon his arrival in France.”
Effectively, that would see the former Sydney Roosters prop out of the picture for Steve McNamara and the first-team.
Alongside Napa potentially leaving, a deal has already been struck with the Warrington Wolves that will see Josh Drinkwater play the next two years at the Halliwell Jones Stadium.[/i
Despite being classed as the Dragons reserves and the obvious links bewtween the two Saint-Estève XIII Catalan are actually their feeder club meaning they are a stand alone team in their own right. I wonder if technically they could 'transfer' (or permanently loan) Napa to them thus removing him from their cap onto the feeder clubs? He'd never be able to play for the Dragons again but as long as he gets paid via the feeder club is that a loophole for them to exploit? I'm sure there are ways and means to ensure Saint-Estève have the funds. Maybe i'm just a cynic.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Thing is the more Catalans pay towards his wage the more counts against their cap. As such the amount they have for a suitable NRL replacement reduces which likely explains their reluctance to pay any more.
Anyway another article on the subject. [urlhttps://www.totalrl.com/super-league-forward-may-be-forced-to-play-for-reserves-if-deal-with-rivals-not-forthcoming/[/url
[iWITH most Super League clubs having done their wheeling and dealing for the 2023 season, the focus is firmly on to pre-season.
However, for a few clubs in particular, recruitment has perhaps some lengths to go before it is finalised.
That is certainly the case for Catalans Dragons and Wakefield Trinity with both having a number of spaces left on the quota in order to bring in overseas stars.
With Wakefield linked with Catalans prop Dylan Napa, that would have repercussions for both Super League sides, freeing up another quota space for the French club and bringing Trinity’s quota number to six.
According to French publication, L’Independant, if Wakefield do not sign Napa, then he “will be made available to the reserve team of Saint-Estève / XIII Catalan, upon his arrival in France.”
Effectively, that would see the former Sydney Roosters prop out of the picture for Steve McNamara and the first-team.
Alongside Napa potentially leaving, a deal has already been struck with the Warrington Wolves that will see Josh Drinkwater play the next two years at the Halliwell Jones Stadium.[/i
Despite being classed as the Dragons reserves and the obvious links bewtween the two Saint-Estève XIII Catalan are actually their feeder club meaning they are a stand alone team in their own right. I wonder if technically they could 'transfer' (or permanently loan) Napa to them thus removing him from their cap onto the feeder clubs? He'd never be able to play for the Dragons again but as long as he gets paid via the feeder club is that a loophole for them to exploit? I'm sure there are ways and means to ensure Saint-Estève have the funds. Maybe i'm just a cynic.'"
My understanding is that the cap spend sits with the club they're playing for, not the one paying the wages. So Catalans could pay him, but he would count towards our cap not there's. I believe that's how we got Dean Hadley a few years back. And to a lesser degree, Simon Grix. Wire needed cap space for Chris Sandow, and Grix was out injured. He came to us with little or no chance of playing whilst Wire paid his wages.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"My understanding is that the cap spend sits with the club they're playing for, not the one paying the wages. So Catalans could pay him, but he would count towards our cap not there's. I believe that's how we got Dean Hadley a few years back. And to a lesser degree, Simon Grix. Wire needed cap space for Chris Sandow, and Grix was out injured. He came to us with little or no chance of playing whilst Wire paid his wages.'"
Yeah you’re probably right, guess he wouldn’t count on the Dragons cap either way, they’d just have to pay him his full wage if loaned to the reserves rather than part of it if us. Probably depends how much meat Bernard Guash sells this Christmas. Whatever Napa is going to have to drop some demands if he wants to play at a decent level or just sit in Elite 1 and collect his large wage packet for 12 months.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Yeah you’re probably right, guess he wouldn’t count on the Dragons cap either way, they’d just have to pay him his full wage if loaned to the reserves rather than part of it if us. Probably depends how much meat Bernard Guash sells this Christmas. Whatever Napa is going to have to drop some demands if he wants to play at a decent level or just sit in Elite 1 and collect his large wage packet for 12 months.'"
I don't think Catalans will have an issue paying all his wages, but if we could pay even 30% it's money saved for them. I suppose it depends how quickly then can identify a replacement. If what I think is right, should they pay him off that'll count as cap spend so the best case is that they find him another club. Some of it's assumptions but that's how I see it. I think Salford are the other club with a quota spot. Other than that it's the NRL, who wouldn't be able to compete with either way.
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| Reports coming in from the Yorkshire Post that we're now only set to make 1-2 signings as per an interview with MA, 1-2 less than previously stated. Looks like some deals have either fallen through or never there in the first place.
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Well I sincerely hope, if that's correct, that one of them is a quality prop because, otherwise it might be another long season!
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Listening to players agent Craig Harrison on YouTube last night, his opinion seems to be most clubs are holding back on spending money at the moment, due mainly to the uncertainty of IMG proposal not being fully announced until the end of next season. Yes I know some clubs have made signings, but Harrison reckons the market has been unusually slow this offseason.
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| Quote ="TimmySmith"Reports coming in from the Yorkshire Post that we're now only set to make 1-2 signings as per an interview with MA, 1-2 less than previously stated. Looks like some deals have either fallen through or never there in the first place.'"
It’s not how many players you have it’s how good they are.
A few years ago the club were getting slagged off for buying to many players for the sake of it. Now we have a patient coach and it’s still wrong.
You could have a squad of forty and it be rubbish, injuries permitting you could have a squad of twenty and win the league if they were the right twenty.
People seem to want their cake and eat it with cream.
It’s still November, let’s wait til February before judging.
Frankly makes no odds when we sign them just so long as they are right.
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