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| Quote ="barrajacks"Lachlan Walmsley young aussie fullback/wing from whitehaven watch this space he's on his way next season'"
Yeah obviously we’re going to fill our last quota spot with an unproven 3rd choice fullback or winger.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Yeah obviously we’re going to fill our last quota spot with an unproven 3rd choice fullback or winger.
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To be fair anything is possible with how recruitment has gine over last couple of years
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| We’ll need cover for Gaskell so makes sense.
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| Well I wouldn't class hood and milner quality.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Yeah obviously we’re going to fill our last quota spot with an unproven 3rd choice fullback or winger.
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| Hood 100 % improves us, a great signing. Gaskill improves the squad as long as he isn't at fullback and I just don't see Chester dropping Miller or Lino. If Tom Lineman is coming then one of Johnson, Kay or Kershaw must be leaving That said with Westerman going and no doubt from the way he is been used Hampshire not been offered a new deal then those two will be a massive loss I just think that the place needs a lift, some excitement, a change. A new coach like Brian Mcdermott, Danny Ward or Paul Rowley would energise the place, challenge the players, excite the fans.
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| What about Batchelor he is out of contract and we have retained both Crowther and Ashurst so will he be another for the chop despite his age and obvious ability.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"What about Batchelor he is out of contract and we have retained both Crowther and Ashurst so will he be another for the chop despite his age and obvious ability.'"
As much as I like Ashurst I personally would be disappointed if we gave him a 2 year deal but end up letting Batchelor go, unless he didnt want to stay of course.
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| I suppose when you have a brother who has a challenge cup winner’s medal after only 8 games in SL. I suppose it makes him question if there is anything better out there.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"What about Batchelor he is out of contract and we have retained both Crowther and Ashurst so will he be another for the chop despite his age and obvious ability.'"
I agree and I think Batchelor has been better than both the above this year.
Something doesn’t add up to me though and correct me if I’m wrong but we are losing a total of 13 players from present squad. Yet only have 4 new signings incoming.
We have been on a shoestring to name 17 this year a number of times so it seems dangerous to me. I can take shaving a few players off the 13 but not replacing 9 players seems a tad extreme to me.
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Hampshire
Batchelor*
B. Walker
Tangata
Green
K. Wood
J.Wood
Kershaw*
Greensmith
Westerman
Senior
Arundel
The stars are the only ones Id keep.
4 players incoming + Gaskell.
There’s still a few gems out there available and I’d be looking at Batchelors older brother too Joe Batchelor who’s had a lot of game time at saints this year and looked good.
We really do desperately need 2/3 props at least though imo.
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Tangata
Green?
We went into this season light at props before these two above. We are already playing a second row at LF in Tanginoa too!
Then there’s the 9 situation with only Bowes on the books.... we need 2 x 9s no doubt.
That’s already the 4 players covered that are mentioned by CC.
Just doesn’t add up to me.
Next season with potential reduction to 10 season after the league finishing position could be absolutely crucial imo. Can you imagine trying to force a club finishing 5th/6th for example into the second split of 10?
If there’s ever a season to speculate it’s next season (if the new structure gets go ahead).
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| Quote ="Schunter"As much as I like Ashurst I personally would be disappointed if we gave him a 2 year deal but end up letting Batchelor go, unless he didnt want to stay of course.'"
I was disappointed we gave him a 2 year deal. He’s been awesome In past for us but he hasn’t shown any consistent good form recent 2 years. I mean we have tanginoa who was carving out MOTM performances repeatedly at left second Row spot. I just cant rack my head around it unless Chester thinks Ashurst can replace Westerman at 13 (that’s where I would move him).
Batchelor of all the forwards out of contract this season has been the one who has earned a deal the most. He’s a great option off the bench and still easy to forget he’s 23.
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| Quote ="barrajacks"Scottish heritage'"
I know, it doesn't matter. All about where he played his junior rugby which was in Australia.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"C C believes that Trinity have made some quality signings but the squad will be thinner next season. Apparently at least 4 new quality
sighning are lined up and it's just a matter of dotting the I and crossing the ts
Any ideas.'"
Ben McKenna has done his usual back page article in today's Wakey Express and quotes Chester...
"Fingers crossed we have got an overseas player over the line this week. We just want to add some real quality to the squad....spending more to get more quality players in"
So, read into that what you will, but McKenna also says that we play Shudds at Belle Vue on Sunday
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"I agree and I think Batchelor has been better than both the above this year.
Something doesn’t add up to me though and correct me if I’m wrong but we are losing a total of 13 players from present squad. Yet only have 4 new signings incoming.
We have been on a shoestring to name 17 this year a number of times so it seems dangerous to me. I can take shaving a few players off the 13 but not replacing 9 players seems a tad extreme to me.
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Tangata
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K. Wood
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Greensmith
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Arundel
The stars are the only ones Id keep.
4 players incoming + Gaskell.
There’s still a few gems out there available and I’d be looking at Batchelors older brother too Joe Batchelor who’s had a lot of game time at saints this year and looked good.
We really do desperately need 2/3 props at least though imo.
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Tangata
Green?
We went into this season light at props before these two above. We are already playing a second row at LF in Tanginoa too!
Then there’s the 9 situation with only Bowes on the books.... we need 2 x 9s no doubt.
That’s already the 4 players covered that are mentioned by CC.
Just doesn’t add up to me.
Next season with potential reduction to 10 season after the league finishing position could be absolutely crucial imo. Can you imagine trying to force a club finishing 5th/6th for example into the second split of 10?
If there’s ever a season to speculate it’s next season (if the new structure gets go ahead).'"
In CC's interview, he states that there are 4 incoming players, other than the one announced (Gaskell) and they are looking at 2 other signings. Why are you assuming that we are losing all the ooc players?
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| Maybe it isn’t just the out of contract guys that are leaving…
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| Quote ="FIL"Ben McKenna has done his usual back page article in toady's Wakey Express and quotes Chester...
"Fingers crossed we have got an overseas player over the line this week. We just want to add some real quality to the squad....spending more to get more quality players in"
So, read into that what you will, but McKenna also says that we play Shudds at Belle Vue on Sunday
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All well and good Fil getting more quality in the squad which is what we as fans pray for ,but do we not also require these new stars to be coached to a higher standard than we have at present , for our team to progress instead of stagnate . My fear is that these new quality players we bring in will just settle into camp easy and not fulfil their full potential. I’ll be honest here and say that I’m a little bit underwhelmed by what the head coach and his assistants have achieved albeit with all the upheaval of the COVID struggles . It just feels to me that we are just lumbering on until the end of the season with nothing as such to play for . But for me they should be playing every game for the fans and the pride in wearing the shirt ,and I hope on Sunday they prove me wrong .
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| Quote ="Kettykat"All well and good Fil getting more quality in the squad which is what we as fans pray for ,but do we not also require these new stars to be coached to a higher standard than we have at present , for our team to progress instead of stagnate . My fear is that these new quality players we bring in will just settle into camp easy and not fulfil their full potential. I’ll be honest here and say that I’m a little bit underwhelmed by what the head coach and his assistants have achieved albeit with all the upheaval of the COVID struggles . It just feels to me that we are just lumbering on until the end of the season with nothing as such to play for . But for me they should be playing every game for the fans and the pride in wearing the shirt ,and I hope on Sunday they prove me wrong .'"
For me we needed a change at coaching level new ideas etc etc, but it does look as itscoming i really do think next season will be our last in sl
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| When you look at Chester at any game he looks defeated before the match even kicks off. It is no wonder the team is short of confidence and lacking motivation.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"When you look at Chester at any game he looks defeated before the match even kicks off. It is no wonder the team is short of confidence and lacking motivation.'"
Yet you are just a Ray of sunshine and motivation
I can't see any other coach doing cartwheels down the touch line.
You do find some creative ways to make your 'I don't like CC'
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| I am not employed in a motivational position, but part of his job is to be wouldn’t you agree. I note that you like to defend Chester so why do you think he deserves a contract extension.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I am not employed in a motivational position, but part of his job is to be wouldn’t you agree. I note that you like to defend Chester so why do you think he deserves a contract extension.'"
No. I just like to point out your repetitive posts.
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| Quote ="PopTart"No. I just like to point out your repetitive posts.'"
You don't seem to be able to answer his question PT. What are your reasons for thinking CC deserves an extension to his contract??
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| Quote ="alegend"Do not forget Hood'"
We’ve finally decided to bring Dallas hood back?
Man alive he was the best Aussie raffle ticket salesman we ever had
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"When you look at Chester at any game he looks defeated before the match even kicks off. It is no wonder the team is short of confidence and lacking motivation.'"
I would say that’s because he is defeated before he starts
The guy is abject at best
Lovely fella though
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| Quote ="Redscat"You don't seem to be able to answer his question PT. What are your reasons for thinking CC deserves an extension to his contract??'"
I've never said he does deserve one. I point that out every time you and Scar make that point.
All I'm saying is if we change it has to be better than what we have and I don't agree with Scarlets assessment that just because Chester doesn't look as happy as Scarlett wants him to be he isn't a good coach.
I agree with the points made that our structure isn't as good as it has been and we are no always performing to our full potential but i don't put that 100% on Chester's shoulders like some of you do. Injuries, Covid and individual player ability has affected that a great deal.
When people are down on Chester they point to Watson or Powell as shining lights yet they are suffering exactly the same way when they have injuries or covid issues.
Its just a difficult time for the club, and rugby league in general and I think just getting through this period the best we can is what is needed and then regroup. More upheaval will not benefit the team unless its to bring in someone who can manage the team in this current climate better than Chester.
I assure you I'll say goodbye to Mr Chester if we are bringing a JD or Craig Bellamy or even Nathan Brown but not for an assistant coach with no experience or an equally failing SL coach who will just recruit the same old fringe players or a successful SL coach who was only successful because he had money......which they won't have with us.
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