The reality is that we are unlikely to make the 8, and even if we do we'll be just making up the numbers, again.

For us, it's about finishing as high up the table as possible, both this year and next, to ensure we're included in the top flight come 2015 and hopefully continue to grow steadily.

You do realise what we say on here doesn't actually affect teh game at all?
We've had people calling for the axe all season.

No harm in knowing what the target is, just don't treat it as any more than that though.

He's trying to save you from yourself


We're all on the Wakefield trinity roller-coaster. Just when your expecting to go up you go down and when you expect the worst, you may get a pleasant surprise !

The target has to be playoffs. Anything less has to be viewed as a step backwards in my opinion. We've had two easy games in Salford and London where we've rattled up a score. The acid test is Hull FC next week....win there and i'll start to believe that we could make the top 8.

Think we have left it too late to make the play offs when you look back at the games we should have won we should be in.While the chance is still there to make the play offs thats what should be aimed for thats only natural but its going to be a big ask.That ask is made better with the Leeds games coming up with the injury list they have who knows that snow we had that had the game cancelled could be a blessing.

Yep can't quite see us making the 8 but that shouldn't stop us from trying and hopefully a few teams above us will cock up. I think we've got some very winnable games left and as we all know we can win some of the most unlikely games, on the flip side lose some as well. Like les-goose says if only we could have finished a couple of those early season games off better than we did at Hudderfield, Catalan and Salford we'd be right up there.

The target should be to win all remaining games regardless of play offs.

Yesterday's performance wouldn't have beaten any team above us in the table IMO so it's a bit of a stretch to start talking about play off spots without a big improvement in the level of performance.

Totally agree we've played the worst two teams in the league past two weeks!
I be happy as long as we beat Cas at home and finish above them in league!!
Think play offs are a step to far!!!
Although it is still mathematical possible!!!

Top 8 is still possible but many people think we need to make it this year to back up last year, they don't consider the bulls point reduction which helped us massively!

Regardless of whether it took a points reduction for the bulls to get us in last year it was only because our first half of the season was so poor due apparently to the team needing time to gel. The frustrating thing is that this season we haven't come close to the level of performances in the second half of last season and that's with a full playing and close season behind the team and no need for gelling.
I don't agree with all this "were operating at a lower cap and are lucky to compete for the playoffs" crap, this team has enough talent and ability to breeze into the top 8 IMO, and the big disappointment for me is that due to either coaching reasons or simply the players mental attitude the commitment hasn't matched the ability for far too many games.

That’s pretty much how I feel about this season Coco, however, with regards to 2015 & beyond I’ve got a feeling the bottom two or three will be ejected purely on next seasons standings.

If it were a level playing field then the RFL should calculate the league places over the length of the licence period & whoever the bottom teams are should be placed in the second division – but it’s not & a straight shoot-out next season would be the preferred option in entertainment land.

Not too sure about breezing but i agree its got enough quality to be higher than it is.

To add to that there wasn't as many teams competing for top 8 and a few taking points off each other e.g. Widnes beating bulls so you will find making 8 could be easier and with less points.

I think the 2 games against Leeds will be really crucial

I personally think the last game of season will be important for the club aswell as getting into the play offs. (Might just be a personal one but I want to finish above our neighbours!!! I want them to finish as low as possible!)

I think it will be great if the last game of the season decides which one of us gets in to the 8. I fear it won't be but it will show some people who think we are both wasting our time without a merger that they need to take notice and shut up.

We would pretty much need to win all 5 home games and at least 1 away game to get into the playoffs IMO.
The 4 away games are: Hull, Leeds, Warrington, Huddersfield - It's going to be a tough ask but it's certainly not impossible yet.

Hull is a big, big game, but Widnes is MASSIVE if we are to maintain a challenge.

Have we signed another player from Wigan?? Must have missed that 1

I still think that with the remaining fixtures and our current position a top 8 is a massive ask from the players we have. If all our players were on form and I look at Ben, Andy and Lee as our main concern, we could perhaps get a win against Leeds on both occasions. Saints are gaining form and Bradford will take some beating. I would love to be proven wrong but for me if we can make 9th it will be a fair finish to the season.

I agree. Top 8 is not impossible but it will take a an upturn in results.

9th spot will effectively be top of the next bunch.
Hull KR seem to have jumped out of our group and Bradford have dropped down but the rest will all have been expecting top 8 and only playing for position. The rest are fighting to get in.
We need to be looking at the top place in that group so that we are in a good position to progress across that divide. We need to be able to beat those teams below us to strengthen that position which on the whole we have done but need to still do so Bradford, Widnes and Cas are big games with that in mind.
Beating Leeds could be a bonus if we are on our game and they are not, and if we want to be seen as top 8 we need to be able to beat Hull and possibly Sts in their current form.
I think we'll end up 9th or 10th and if we do we should celebrate that.

Why celebrate failure which even by our standards is what that would be?
If we finish ninth or tenth someone at the club should be asking questions of either the coaching staffs ability to coach or the players ability to get themselves up for a fight.
If you swap the performances against Salford and Hull at home, Cas at Manchester and Bradford away, with the performances against Wigan, Warrington, Hudds at home and Catalans away you could be pretty confident that we would have been comfortably in the top 8 now, so rather than celebrate what has been abject failure for much of the season let's ask what went wrong.

Definitely some reviewing to be done, we've come close in a few games and just not got there, others we have been blown away (a la magic weekend). I think if we can finish within a few points of the playoffs, we will be in a prime position for concerted assault next season. With the pack we have and strike players like Collis, T Smith and Cockayne prowling in the backs, I think we are nearly there in terms of quality.

I would however suggest that if we are in a similar position next year, then could be the time to look at alternative coaching options, as if Agar hasn't performed, he is at the end of his contract.

I disagree that 9th or 10th would be abject failure
Of course we need a review, even if we were 2nd I'd say that. You should try and improve, but to pick out particular resiults and say we failed over all because we didn't win them is not really understanding how sport works.
Wigan are in theory the best team. They haven't got a 100% record. It doesn't just follow that you think one team is better so they should win.

Cas played better than us. Simple as that. To go back with hindsight and say if we'd played like we did against Wigan we would have won is just fantasy. There is no way of knowing.
On the day is on the day. I'm sure they review performance after each game.

We effectively finished 9th last year. We have had more injuries this year and other teams have changed personel so some ups and some downs.
For a club of our size 9th is a great position. Building to the playoffs is a long term plan.

Of course, if we'd won some games we thought we should have, we'd be in now. But on that logic, we should have lost a couple on paper that we won.

I can't tell you to celebrate 9th Catnip.....but I will.

Well we started the season with a settled squad and a coach with a year under is belt so all i wanted was improvement throughout the season, dosen't have to be a higher placing that last season for me, but so far i have not seen it.

Injuries are very close to last season so we can't factor that in.

I won't be celebrating.