Sorry Bren, but there does seem to be an increasingly loud voice suggesting a cut in SL numbers (without timescale) and sure as night follows day, the All New Bulls will be safe as houses and the likes of us,Cas, Widnes and maybe KR will be under threat of relegation, never mind the poor souls in the CC.

It's the clubs that have decided to keep them in, it's either a victory for the smaller clubs who don't want change or hypocracy from those that do.
In any other walk of life this would be a nail in the coffin for those seeking a reduced super league, however in the muddled world of SL it probably isn't and just proves its who you know not what you know (or something like that!!!).

It was mooted by Lewis at the last round of licences announcement on sky that the number in SL may have to be looked into.
Weather that was the RFLs view or he was pandering to the clubs is anyone's guess.
Either way this is a slap in the face of a reduced number SL or at least it ought to be!!!!

Just a thought but could this decision be setting a precident for some other SL Clubs.

I don't know if the HMRC/Image Rights issue was ever settled but there may be other SL Clubs in a precarious financial position and this would allow them to go into Administration and immediately come out through a pre-pack deal and retain SL status with HMRC and other creditors losing out.

If the Bulls had been "relegated" it would mean that any other Club going into Administration would be out of SL which would not have been acceptable to the majority if not all SL Clubs.

I know there is talk of reducing the size of SL but we know that means certain teams being secure and others not being so secure.

I think this is a very real possibility, although how this will be received by HMRC and how our game would be viewed by the wider sporting world is a real worry.
The reputation of our sport would be in tatters if this situation occurred and such a blaze wholesale Phoenix from the flames resurrection of some of our largest clubs and a large proportion of SL re-emerged debt free at the tax payers expense.

I still don't get why we had to sell players for admin costs, but bulls are being fully funded

Join the queue on that one!!!!

But Blake Solly recently said that there are no plans to reduce the number of teams in SL.

It's a stupid idea being put forward by blinkered people with no eye on the longer game; they mistakenly believe that if the number of teams were reduced, Sky might not notice and would continue to fund the sport at the same level, thereby leaving a larger slice of the pie for themselves. And Jamie Peacock, who might be able to squeeze another season out of his tired old bones if there were fewer games per season.

Quote ="wrencat1873"Super league clubs have voted for The All New Bulls to stay in SL next season www.yorkshirepost/bradfordbulls/superleague It seems that some clubs are indeed buullet proof, would the same rules apply for the "less fashionable" clubs ? One can only speculate !'" As much as there has clearly been special treatment dished out here, Bulls at Trinity is a guaranteed big house. From a purely selfish and cash point of view, it's good business for us; hence the vote. Cartels....we're all in it together!

Quote ="wrencat1873"Super league clubs have voted for The All New Bulls to stay in SL next season www.yorkshirepost/bradfordbulls/superleague It seems that some clubs are indeed buullet proof, would the same rules apply for the "less fashionable" clubs ? One can only speculate !'" As much as there has clearly been special treatment dished out here, Bulls at Trinity is a guaranteed big house. From a purely selfish and cash point of view, it's good business for us; hence the vote. Cartels....we're all in it together!

And with apparently a good few clubs hovering on the brink of a bradford-esque situation why would those clubs want to set a precident by voting out a failing club? It could be them next.

What I don't get is all this iconic big club nonsense, they had a successful team for a few years but are not what I'd call a big club. The problem with Bradford is Bradford without sounding racist alot of people have moved out of Bradford and have been replaced by non RL public hence Bradford not being a RL playing hotbed & the bulls having to throw their money at youngsters from Wakey cas fev batley etc. I'm not saying that if bought out of admin they should be relegated, we weren't and they shouldn't. But if it's a newco they should go down, it wouldn't make much difference to us if they were replaced by fax or fev and at least they produce more players

The last 3-4 seasons Bradford support at Belle Vue hasnt been up to much in my opinion

total and utter disgrace

We were granted a Super League licence for 3 years in the same year that we went into administration and bought out of it. I'm not sure we can preach double standards. If the Bulls are bought out of admin and remain in Super League, I can't see the difference with us, apart from the fact that they have been allowed to retain a full playing roster, but was that more to do with the fact that it was mid-season. We had ours sorted by the time it got going and so maybe the same would have happened to us if it had been mid-season.

Farce from start to finish! In what way has the club been held responsible for this situation? They lost a few points, wow but what else? It looks to have been a very positive thing for the Bulls going into admin and it shouldn't be!!!

Did Glover/Elston vote in favour? And regardless, how can a democratic vote be classed on here as bent?

You may not agree with the outcome, and I'm as sick of the whole thing as anyone, but you can't call it 'bent' and such like.

Again, there but for the grace go we.

If we agreed I think it would be if we were told SL wouldn't be reduced. I next licence period will see a return of p&r with conditions.

anyway all in all just a week to go for it to be all settled

fingers crossed

Without doubt this situation will happen again. It will be very interesting to see if the next club that finds itself in trouble with its finance will get the same treatment as the bulls? As for splitting the SL teams to form a super /super league I think that move would be a disaster and as fans we should all do something about it not just sit back and complain.

Yeah ok Slugger! If I remember rightly we asked for guarentees for Super league and couldn't be given them,AG took on Wakey probably expecting us to end up in the Championship,the Bulls as I see it have been given guarentees,a great deal of difference to me,it stinks to high heaven.put us in the Bulls position,no concrete buyer,plenty of rumour and speculation,would Super league buy us out/bail us out,yeah we know the answer to that!! A complete farce! And when the time comes that one of us Cas,Salford or Widnes are being forced out of Super league to reduce the number of clubs to 12 or 13, I hope to hell we get off our arzes and remind the RL/SL of this fiasco!!!!

Jinder
Once again if this happens we will do nothing but compain on this forum. If there is a hint of this happening then we should do something about it. Without fans the game is nothing.

I can just see him now with a turban on

I don't think anyone is preaching double standards. I think our situation and the Bulls are a little different.

We went into Administration and the Administrator sold off players presumably to pay creditors or more than likely cover his own fee. The Bulls have not seen a single player sold and who is paying Gillfoyles fee.

We were bought by Andrew Glover with no guarantees on what league we would be playing in, we could have easily have been in the Championship but we had to apply for a franchise like everyone else. We were successful and I'd like to think it was that our bid was strong rather than Crusaders pulling out or Halifax's bid being pap but quite frankly its now immaterial. Whoever buys the Bulls, dispite the RFL saying no guarantees seem to being given a guarantee of SL, at least for a further 2 years.

We tried to pay off creditors long before the Administrator was called in. Tax bills were paid by selling Ryan Atkins and Danny Brough and Sir Rodney Walker loaned us money to settle one of the winding up orders. Unfortunately it wasn't enough. I have not heard of Bradford paying anything to the HMRC or ant creditor and we know they have not sold any players.

Andrew Glover paid off a fair few of the Creditors even though he probably had no obligation to do so. I wonder if the purchasers of the Bulls will pay off any of the creditiors including the HMRC (or in part). I guess we'll have to see.

Something about this whole situation does not add up and I'm very surprised that Potter has been working for nothing for all these weeks - how has he paid his bills - I doubt that he has been spending his life savings because he loves the Bulls so much.

I have nothing against the Bulls but it seems that they are being treated differently to say if it was us Salford or Castleford who were in the same postion. I guess we'll have to wait and see if anyone goes pop next and how that is dealt with.

Ha bloody ha!!