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| Quote ="Fearnhead Cross"Putting a detailed planning application in for a site the size of yours isn't just a question of sticking in a load of plans, there are environmental reports, traffic, contamination etc.
If the designs haven't been shown yet, I suspect that the developers will put in an outline application similar to what Cas & Salford did.'"
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| Very interesting to view the new LDF maps that have just been made available on the WMDC website - the site at Newmarket now clearly designated as an employment area  |
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| Quote ="Catwoman1"Very interesting to view the new LDF maps that have just been made available on the WMDC website - the site at Newmarket now clearly designated as an employment area
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| Quote ="Catwoman1"Very interesting to view the new LDF maps that have just been made available on the WMDC website - the site at Newmarket now clearly designated as an employment area
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That's good for the application. Why would the Government waste time and money on a Public Inquiry when the land is going to be used for employment anyway.
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Quote ="Catwoman1"Very interesting to view the new LDF maps that have just been made available on the WMDC website - the site at Newmarket now clearly designated as an employment area
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consult.wakefield.gov.uk/portal/ ... TE-ES-W40A
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"[iThe site is in part Grade 3a Agricultural Land Classification, but it can be demonstrated that there is a particular need for the development, that no alternative suitable site of a lower grade is available, and the proposal would not result in the severance, fragmentation or reduction in the size of agricultural holdings, which would prejudice their continuing viability. The proposal is therefore in accordance with Development Policy D 26. Site intersects SFRA Zone 3a but development will either be excluded from these areas, or mitigation measures, approved by the Environment Agency, will be implemented.[/i"
For anyone that was scared this is going to be taken to a public inquiry.....
Rest assured IT WON'T!
The statement also details drainage, traffic and air quality- all of which have had at least 1 study undertaken and received feedback from the appropriate statutory body.
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consult.wakefield.gov.uk/portal/ ... TE-ES-W40A
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"[iThe site is in part Grade 3a Agricultural Land Classification, but it can be demonstrated that there is a particular need for the development, that no alternative suitable site of a lower grade is available, and the proposal would not result in the severance, fragmentation or reduction in the size of agricultural holdings, which would prejudice their continuing viability. The proposal is therefore in accordance with Development Policy D 26. Site intersects SFRA Zone 3a but development will either be excluded from these areas, or mitigation measures, approved by the Environment Agency, will be implemented.[/i"
For anyone that was scared this is going to be taken to a public inquiry.....
Rest assured IT WON'T!
The statement also details drainage, traffic and air quality- all of which have had at least 1 study undertaken and received feedback from the appropriate statutory body.
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Quote ="Sandal Cat"That's good for the application. Why would the Government waste time and money on a Public Inquiry when the land is going to be used for employment anyway.
If the Council grants outline consent next month then we should on our way.'"
We better be!
As soon as we get the outline consent we will be ready to motor. There will be no consultation process like there is in Cas- as had that in DECEMBER!
From what I have been told as soon as we get the nod the full application is ready to be submitted- baring any amendments that are attached to the approval of the application.
www.lrdlimited.co.uk/case_studie ... liery.html
The land reclamation took place in 1998 on the stadium site so one would assume that work would begin on there straight away, with the drainage and road works taking place around the site at the same time.
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If the Council grants outline consent next month then we should on our way.'"
We better be!
As soon as we get the outline consent we will be ready to motor. There will be no consultation process like there is in Cas- as had that in DECEMBER!
From what I have been told as soon as we get the nod the full application is ready to be submitted- baring any amendments that are attached to the approval of the application.
www.lrdlimited.co.uk/case_studie ... liery.html
The land reclamation took place in 1998 on the stadium site so one would assume that work would begin on there straight away, with the drainage and road works taking place around the site at the same time.
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interesting that it states it is only for B8 distribution so it looks like the hotel, restaurant and offices have been dumped as per the last set of statutory reports (not suitable for out of town).
The proposal doesn't include the stadium site as this can get through on greenbelt land on its own merits.
Bad news for the NIMBYs as the distribution centre is coming with or without the stadium and sports facilities, like it or not. All they've achieved is getting rid of the other job opportunities and facilities which may have been useful to local residents.
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Regarding the link and the Newmarket site, it states 'This proposal is restricted to wholesale and freight distribution employment use (Bicon_cool.gif.'
Anyone shed any light on what this means in relation to a sports stadia and all its stated 'trappings.'
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That's covered by existing LDF regulations.
Will dig out the link.
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"[iPolicy YH9 in draft new RSS reinforces national guidance that the general extent of the Green Belts in the region should not be changed. However, it also indicates that localised reviews may be necessary in some places to deliver the Core Approach. In the case of parts of West Yorkshire it indicates a strategic review may be required to deliver longer term housing growth. The Core Strategy is consistent with this policy. All land currently in the Green Belt in Wakefield District serves a specific purpose and there is no need for a general review of the boundary. Any strategic review of the Green Belt in parts of West Yorkshire will inform options for delivering housing growth beyond 2021. It's timing and conclusions may require an early review of the Core Strategy and/or Site Specific Proposals documents. =#FF4000In the meantime only in exceptional circumstances will a localised review of the Green Belt be carried out when a relevant LDF document is prepared or reviewed. Such circumstances could be an over-riding need to accommodate development of the following types which can not be met elsewhere and where Green Belt land offers the most sustainable option:
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"[iPolicy YH9 in draft new RSS reinforces national guidance that the general extent of the Green Belts in the region should not be changed. However, it also indicates that localised reviews may be necessary in some places to deliver the Core Approach. In the case of parts of West Yorkshire it indicates a strategic review may be required to deliver longer term housing growth. The Core Strategy is consistent with this policy. All land currently in the Green Belt in Wakefield District serves a specific purpose and there is no need for a general review of the boundary. Any strategic review of the Green Belt in parts of West Yorkshire will inform options for delivering housing growth beyond 2021. It's timing and conclusions may require an early review of the Core Strategy and/or Site Specific Proposals documents. =#FF4000In the meantime only in exceptional circumstances will a localised review of the Green Belt be carried out when a relevant LDF document is prepared or reviewed. Such circumstances could be an over-riding need to accommodate development of the following types which can not be met elsewhere and where Green Belt land offers the most sustainable option:
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| Quote ="PHe"Regarding the link and the Newmarket site, it states 'This proposal is restricted to wholesale and freight distribution employment use (Bicon_cool.gif.'
Anyone shed any light on what this means in relation to a sports stadia and all its stated 'trappings.''"
No need to differentiate. We are the wholesalers and distributors of rugby league. We take in raw rugby produce, fashion it into a good product, and then distribute it to the rest of the Super League at a rock bottom price. |
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The most recent response from the Environment Agency stated that as the land boundaries currently fall the only appropriate part of the development was the stadium, training facilities, sporting and educational development facilities. In particular they highlighted the offices as being inappropriate. However with the publication of this new information its clear the council have decided that this site offers the most sustainable development, which impacts the existing communities the least. Has common sense won out in Wakefield for once???
This news is a MASSIVE indication of how the council are going to rule the application in September!
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Good news hopefully gets sorted by september and the can start planning for a better future
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| Quote This provision helps to meet the requirement for an additional 95ha of wholesale and freight distribution use in the M62 corridor, identified in the Core Strategy, and conforms with Policy CS 8. '"
What have I been saying!
This is very good news guys and I did expect that this would be the proposal they would put forward in the revised LDF. You must remember that this additional 95ha is a legal requirement from the original LDF review by the Secretary of States office, so it has to be met, and it is important that they have written this specifically in relation to the Newmarket site. The NIMBY's hopes of getting the current application to a public enquiry are looking slim IMO. |
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| Wow, isn't this thread quiet!!!
You can't move for stadium threads of your board and one's that even aren't, turn into stadium threads... yet this one, silence.... I wonder why!  |
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|  Great news isn't it!
I have noticed there has been a deafening silence from Mr Rugbyball recently - do hope he's keeping abreast of developments. |
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| Quote ="Catwoman1"icon_lol.gif Great news isn't it!
I have noticed there has been a deafening silence from [uMr Rugbyball [/urecently - do hope he's keeping abreast of developments.'"
He has been told to run things past gaslight for his consent before being allowed to comment. |
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| On reading through the Wakefield LDF and other related documents there are a number of statements and statutory obligations which give me great hope for a positive outcome for Newmarket.
Quote "there is a need for 'good quality' job opportunities in all areas of the district to reduce the levels of hardship experienced by some people"'"
Quote economic growth in the district was below the national average, and that investment and new business activities needed to be encouraged.'"
Quote the size of some of the 'urban extensions' proposed are likely to result in a loss of greenfield and Green Belt land.'"
The general feel of the Governments Planning act in 2004 and the Wakefield LDF lend to the feeling of positivity about the success of Newmarkets planning application(s).
Much of what is written in those documents not only supports this type of development but almost demands them Indeed, some of the benefits that Newmarket will offer will go some way to meeting WMDCs legal obligations.
I don't want to appear to have quoted these statements out of context so if anyone doubts their meaning they should look up the Wakefield LDF Policies on Google. |
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The thing that gets me is that the vast majority of stadium threads have had little or no substance and have rolled on to 20 plus pages sometimes. This news is HUGE and nobody has even clicked?????
I've got to say when I read the documentation for the first time I was over the moon.
WMDC would never come out in public and plough their weight behind the scheme from the very start because IMO they fear alienating anyone (Wak v Cas or NIMBY's). However this places the ball squarely in our court.
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"The thing that gets me is that the vast majority of stadium threads have had little or no substance and have rolled on to 20 plus pages sometimes. This news is HUGE and nobody has even clicked?????'"
It's the nature of the information, in that detailed planning guidance is never going to be an interesting read. I don't think of myself as an intellectual slouch, but my eyes glaze pretty quickly when I see the word "regulation".
Could someone put it all in the simplest, broadest terms, for all of us slowcoaches out there.
And this thread was never going to be as long, because a full-on manhood measuring contest is always going to take a long time and attract much excitement. A quick peer down your boxers and a "looking good!" is a much quieter affair. |
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Essentially, the delay in considering the outline planning application seems to have worked in our favour, as the project now has a different, more progressive set of criteria to be assessed against.
Was this political delay deliberate?
If we had been assessed "on time", we may have struggled with PP, or certainly risked a lengthy Public Inquiry. It certainly looks like we are for more likely to achieve PP at the first attempt now.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"It's the nature of the information, in that detailed planning guidance is never going to be an interesting read. I don't think of myself as an intellectual slouch, but my eyes glaze pretty quickly when I see the word "regulation".
Could someone put it all in the simplest, broadest terms, for all of us slowcoaches out there.
And this thread was never going to be as long, because a full-on manhood measuring contest is always going to take a long time and attract much excitement. A quick peer down your boxers and a "looking good!" is a much quieter affair.'"
Basically what the new regulations state are that; Newmarket is now marked out OFFICIALLY as an area for employment, with the preferred choice being warehousing and distribution.
It also identifies the land as being a mix of brownfield and greenbelt, but states that the site offers the best location for such a development within the city. Because of this prime location and sustainability the gifted title of "greenbelt" is null and void. |
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"The thing that gets me is that the vast majority of stadium threads have had little or no substance and have rolled on to 20 plus pages sometimes. This news is HUGE and nobody has even clicked?????.'"
In fairness, quite a few people predicted this would happen (myself included) so probably felt no need to comment; the lengthy threads you're referring to are artificially padded by inane propaganda from our Castleford Liaison Officers, so not a fair reflection of WTW fans interest in the topic.
This is great news and has probably panned out just as Yorkcourt hoped - now roll on September! |
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I wonder if the club think ,if they get the outline planning sorted in September ,it will allow them more opportunities in the transfer market,it would look a better sell to any potential player.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"I wonder if the club think ,if they get the outline planning sorted in September ,it will allow them more opportunities in the transfer market,it would look a better sell to any potential player.'"
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Great news isn't it!
