Have to agree with Musson on this one.

Very difficult circumstances for everyone. The impact of Covid on the game shouldn't be underestimated. It clearly limited resources even further for the club. Believed Michael Carters statement had some objectivity and realisation of the multiple challenges Chris, the team and ultimately the wider game have faced over the last two seasons.

I was saying the same thing earlier today. The impact on players is an unknown. We were talking about Tinny Arona, him being a shadow of his former self (someone referring to him blowing out of his backside etc). I've noticed that recently it takes him sometimes a couple of plays to get back into the defensive line. Could it be physical, a poster referred to long covid etc, or could it be mental/psychological. He probably hasn't seen his extended family for quite a while and will be a while in the future and he may just want to go home (in those circumstances, who could blame him?)
Pure speculation from a keyboard on my part

The last interview after the game sort of capped it off. Making no secret of having to spend more money probably didn't help.
It was only the day before he was explaining the quality signings the club had made.
I still can not help but think he's been let down regarding funding, and I don't see Poaching having much look in that department either should his pole position prove successful.

The last interview after the game sort of capped it off. Making no secret of having to spend more money probably didn't help.
It was only the day before he was explaining the quality signings the club had made.
I still can not help but think he's been let down regarding funding, and I don't see Poaching having much look in that department either should his pole position prove successful.

Its not the affiliation with a political party, its the drab decor, smoke filled entrance ways, meat raffles, numerous gammons and terrible beer that puts me off

Well done on derailing another thread. Now, stay on topic or you will be gone again, but for longer this time.

Why doesn’t South Stander do anything about it. We all know whenever it crops up again, can’t be that hard to press the ban button.

You know when someone uses the term Karen or in this case gammon you’re dealing with a middle class pre pubescent who’s done a drama degree at one of the poly universities. They are desperate to be part of the London cosmopolitan elite or even better a racial minority but don’t have the relevant qualifications or the ability to leave their own bedroom.

This is his world, one of the few places he thinks he can throw about his glib woke nonsense and his blatant racism.

Gammon is a racist term in every sense of the word. Hard working, law abiding, middle aged white men who are conservative (not the party) by nature, t’s very specific. It also covers most of us on here and it’s highly offensive. It’s in every way the equivalent of coon, a derogatory term for black men.

This poster should receive a life time ban for using this term. He won’t because the mindset these days is whites are fair game and somehow aren't afforded the same considerations as all other groups. Just because we have the numbers and thus a perceived privilege doesn’t make the use of the term acceptable.

RL fans needs to ban him for this alone, zero tolerance to racism includes everyone or nobody, so which is it I wonder.

Agree wholeheartedly Vastman. I frequent the ‘Con’ club on match days and the clientele are mixed . Men and women from varying backgrounds. I too resent the term ‘Gammon’ being used to belittle a section of society. Actually using it demonstrates utter hypocrisy and contradicts what the users purport to believe in.

I don't think we quite need the outrage. I don't think it was intended to be a racist slur. The phrase is often used in mainstream media rightly or wrongly.

But the point stands. Keep to the subject of the thread.
Poky, as always, as a guest on here, if you come on just to wind Wakefield fans up, that priviledge will be taken away.

So back to the thred So if Mr Chester had not Brough in so many players for the posions we were cover for, and spent the cash he would have saved on the poisons that needed strengthening he might have still been in a job .Overall he as wasted a lot of cash

Not being funny here as, as thing stands your post doesn't make much sense, you mention Brough presumably you think he was a bad buy, well we can all be smart with hindsight, but prior to him having got injured I nor anyone else had a problem with his signing.

Early indications are that Brian McDermott is interested.

He would personally be my number one choice with what seems available. He’s been a winner and enjoyed good relative levels of success at his clubs.

Further to that he appears a strong coach who would have no problem whipping the team into how he wants them playing.

I guess there is a few candidates so we will see.

He would be my first choice too.

I didn`t have a problem with his signing, I was actually in favour of it but there is no doubting that with his age and him slowing down the couple years before he was a big risk, in a key position and took up the budget, there were plenty of posters on here that posted that at the time. In the same vein he could of been a huge success, as I say its a risk, some work out some don`t, it`s all in hindsight as you say but some signings are riskier than others and Brough was a big risk that didn't pay off IMO.

Nobody really knows with signings, I now try to avoid getting too excited or too negative about any signings, Anthony Tupou springs to mind as one I got very excited about we all knew how that turned out and then you have signings like Kirmo, I mean who got excited about that at the time? Didn`t we get him in a swap deal with 2 or 3 other players? Then out of nowhere he was probably the best second row forward in the league for a couple of years, anyway I`m going down the garden path into the wilderness on this one, too much caffeine this morning

I guess it`s all dependant on the choices we have? Unless of course he is your first choice regardless

I wouldn`t be disappointed with BM again I think he would be a good fit for a club like us right now.

Mv Dermott for me too...he would bring back discipline, sort the D out and give us a game plan to work to...in this game you've always got to earn the right to play by doing the hard work first and for an example of how that works in action just watch Saints and the way they defend and bring the ball out of their own 20 - regardless of how much more money they have for better quality players it's the work ethic first

McDermot*

I'm going to go against the grain re. Mcdermott here but i put the following in the new coach thread and i'm sticking to it.....

[iNot for me. McDermott's success have come with big spending clubs, Leeds and their riches (and the golden generation) then Toronto who spent full cap in part time leagues. And it took him two attempts to take them up there. When money is less plentiful his record is poor, at London he got sacked after winning 7 of his last 38 games (yes i had to look that up but i knew it wasn't good!) and lost 6 out of 6 in superleague when the cash ran out at Toronto. He's currently 'coaching consultant' at Oldham. They haven't won a game since he arrived. He's not really our kind of coach.[/i

Now i'll not be gutted if he does come, he may well shake things up and he is a Wakefield lad but his success record comes purely off the back of Leeds' golden generation, even then they only topped the table once and they didn't even make the top four on a majority of occasions. Once they finally all retired they ended up in the bottom four and he was sacked. A 36% win rate at London, somehow failing to get Toronto up first time despite spending masses more than the opposition then losing every game when they finally got there and now not making much impression at Oldham don't exactly point to the coaching genius he is made out by some. Doubt he'll be cheap either and he'll not be used to our kindof facilities. If he wants the job i imagine Carter will go that way and he'll have my support if he gets it but i certainly have reservations.

A lot of good candidates out there who would all give the team and club the lift it needs after the last three years. Would be happy with Rowley, McDermott, Ward, Henderson. Just hope we don't go for an appointment from within the club. I want to see fresh ideas.

Brian Mc or Danny Ward for me.

I don’t buy in to the local lad or played for the club requirement, I’m interested in who can shape and lead us into a difficult year and beyond.

McDermott has had a hugely successful career, (player and coach), and has achieved pretty much all there is to achieve.

An apprenticeship under Tony Smith at the Giants and Rhinos, coached a struggling limited budget club in London and won everything there is to win as a coach when back at Leeds.
Yes with a golden generation of players but it still needed to be won, with Toronto anyone should have got them up, he did, Rowley didn’t. Toronto has been well covered but the contract and administration left their super league chances as slim to none.
Could he manage to steady the ship at Wakefield? I believe so but the playing group would need to buy in to his approach and philosophies which appear to be discipline based. Do they have the mindset? As professionals you would hope so.
(The mentality piece he did with stevie ward is well worth a listen/watch)

As for Danny Ward, similar start to his career coaching London gaining promotion and certainly not disgracing themselves whilst in the super league. Would Danny’s approach to the playing group be more suitable than McDermott’s? Possibly.

Either way we have to be realistic. Talk of JD, Wane etc it’s pure fantasy. We know where we are as a club and I’m sure MC knows where we need to be in terms of budget. I would assume, (as with all of the above), that McDermott and Ward will meet that criteria and have an interest in the role.

i think he meant brought not Brough

Kyle wood? and Andy Raleigh I think

Brian Mac not for me, I've explained previously why, and for a team like ours it will be very much similar to what we have experienced over the past 3 years without a massive uplift in budget.

Go on the Leeds forum and ask for their feedback, or find the massive thread where they want him out, it makes the CC ones on here small fry.

I take on board what you say and it could well work out well but i'll take issue with the bit highlighted. McDermott coached them in the Ian Leneghan owned era and spent near as damn it full cap. It was the era of Danny Orr, Henry Paul, Mark Mclinden, Rob Purdham, LMS, Tony Clubb, Luke Dorn etc were there and they had on paper a very good side yet their finishing positions got progressively worse whilst he was there. Still it could turn out to be a match made in either heaven or hell but if MC thinks Brian Smith was stubborn and strong-willed wait until he meets Brian Mac!