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| Quote ="Wandering Wildcat"I was talking to a friend of mine is an ex player agent in the NRL, and is currently the chief development officer for an emerging European nation last night about our current situation.
I was saying that we are trying to reduce wage bill and bring in some cheaper replacements.
He was saying that one of his ex players was looking for a club in 2014.
His name is Matt Bell and played for Penrith and Wests Tigers. He is a prop or second row.
Now I dont watch too much NRL, but I know there are a lot that do. Does anyone know of him.'"
Yes mate he WAS at Wests a couple of years ago but didn't play much I don't think - it was the year when Heighington played for England.
Seemed to disappear off the radar - he didn't play for wests last year I'm sure (I have Premier )
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| Bell 142 games in NRL in 6 seasons.
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| good knowledge :O
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| Matthew Bell
Born 30 August 1981 (age 32)
Height 190 cm (6 ft 3 in)
Weight 107 kg (16 st 12 lb)
Position Second Row
Pld T G FG P
110 1 0 0 4 Penrith Panthers (2006–11)
32 0 0 0 0 Wests Tigers (2012)
142 1 0 0 4. Totals
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| last year we had all on to compete this year with the exodus of the so called stars,can anyone see us winning a game,supporters wont want to pay super league prices to see championship rugby, that's if they can even produce that,i can understand mr carter wanting to balance the books but selling the players off wont bring in revenue next season
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| I appreciate that you're probably all feeling very low, but if no-one else leaves you still have a very good core of players and have more than a fighting chance of not being in the last two spots next year.
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| I haven't bought one, but that's because I work weekends so it would be a waste of my cash. I buy shirts etc. during the year, if I have to justify myself, and pay on the gate when I can attend.
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| Quote ="deeHell"If you think we are going to get 10-15% of Wakefield population to buy into the club you can forget it, it's not going to happen. Not at a club thats been mediocre for two generations and will be for the foreseeable future. SL is now a financial competition of rich owners and we don't have one. Without been to crude we are selling a garbage product compared to what's out there. OK I accept that, what I don't like is how MC is successfully pushing the blame on to the people of Wakefield. The product is worth what people are willing to pay. STs at £125 for a club on the verge of the top 8 is deemed value, £180 for a bottom 3 club is not deemed value to to the wider public. How much is a ticket worth at Wigan considering the quality of rugby and success you can expect? All this is open to laws of supply and demand, and emotional black mail can only play a minor part in this. You need to get out of this mid set that other people think like us die hards. Just don't blame other people that have had enough we've only ourselves to blame.
If we have the best long term interests of the club why get rid of marketing people from the club? These are essential staff in professional money raising environment, whose going out in the community? [uWho is there to ring round the other 3k ST holders that have yet to renew?[/u
Why the hell have we voted to for the proposed new system with 2 teams to be relegated (at the same time more than doubling our chance of relegation)? It's been quoted in the RL press that the rebels wanted to stay at 14 and have 1 up and 1 down. At least under that system we stood a fighting chance of been in SL leading up to 2016 and hopefully Newmarket. This is a question that MC keeps ignoring in his QA even though it keeps getting asked. I suppose all that is the fault of the apathetic Wakefield public.'"
The players are now back at the club
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| Quote ="jacques"Bell 142 games in NRL in 6 seasons.'"
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| Think rovers have signed a very good prop who's disciplinary behaviour should be able to be curbed by Sandercock.couple of questions I have looking outside from in with regards to the fire sale of players.
1) Why would the Wakefield club or any other that is trying to reduce the wage bill vote for a two up two down relegation ? Real risk if being relegated here which admittedly would allow the club to rebuild again in the lower division.
2) By offering expensive contracts in the first place then reducing the cost of season passes for two seasons has this contributed to the current situation?
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| 1. I'd guess (and I have no inside knowledge) that we're towing the SL/RL party line, they lent us money to pay the tax man off.
2. Sadly yes.
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| Quote ="cofr_rockin_robin"Think rovers have signed a very good prop who's disciplinary behaviour should be able to be curbed by Sandercock.couple of questions I have looking outside from in with regards to the fire sale of players.
1) Why would the Wakefield club or any other that is trying to reduce the wage bill vote for a two up two down relegation ? Real risk if being relegated here which admittedly would allow the club to rebuild again in the lower division.
2) By offering expensive contracts in the first place then reducing the cost of season passes for two seasons has this contributed to the current situation?'"
1. Beats me... hegemony?
2. Not as simple as that... Higher prices - less customers - less sales..
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| Bye Justin.
Thanks for nothing
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| Not Justin's fault. He would have stayed. We could not afford to keep him.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Bye Justin.
Thanks for nothing
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That's all you have got to say, the thanks for nothing should be directed at the board because that is what apparently they got for him. He did not ask or want to leave but the board did so we are now down three experienced props from last season.
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| Quote ="Agent XIII"That's all you have got to say, the thanks for nothing should be directed at the board because that is what apparently they got for him. He did not ask or want to leave but the board did so we are now down three experienced props from last season.'"
Don't speak for me. Justin wanted to stay at Wakey for the rest of his career. His own words.
Soon slunk off at the first sign of trouble. I don't care what anyone says, he had options.
We may have overpaid him but he's a Hull KR player now. So thanks for nothing.
I'm Wakefield til I die, not Wakefield til they've gone.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Don't speak for me. Justin wanted to stay at Wakey for the rest of his career. His own words.
Soon slunk off at the first sign of trouble. I don't care what anyone says, he had options.
We may have overpaid him but he's a Hull KR player now. So thanks for nothing.
I'm Wakefield til I die, not Wakefield til they've gone.'"
I don't want to speak for you nor do I want to think like you because your mind must be a sad and lonely place.
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| JP is no longer with us thanks to JE and gang.
Why try to point the finger at anyone else.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"I haven't bought one, but that's because I work weekends so it would be a waste of my cash. I buy shirts etc. during the year, if I have to justify myself, and pay on the gate when I can attend.'"
Hang on! You don't have to explain to anyone why you don't buy a ST. I'm sick and tired of some people on here laying the guilt trip on non ST purchasers. None of this is their fault so get off their backs!!
In over 55 years of supporting Trinity, it is always been the die hard supporters who have had to pull us out of the EDIT, whilst those mismanaging the club have us lurching from one crisis to the next on a regular basis.
For what it's worth, I have never had/wanted a ST. Trinity never has been the be all and end all for me and, I have a feeling that will not make me a true supporter to many on here. Whatever. They are still MY team.
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| Quote ="Agent XIII"I don't want to speak for you nor do I want to think like you because your mind must be a sad and lonely place.'"
Apology accepted.
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| Not usually one to post rumours or what 'so and so says'. But been told on good authority that Cockayne is following Poore and it's to be announced this week, as expected i guess
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| Quote ="El Rey"JP is no longer with us thanks to JE and gang.'"
Right on brother; if JE hadn't interfered in the perfectly good deal RA had brokered with JP and his agent, his wage wouldn't have been unsustainable in the first place.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Right on brother; if JE hadn't interfered in the perfectly good deal RA had brokered with JP and his agent, his wage wouldn't have been unsustainable in the first place.'"
Its a mess but forget that and lets throw stones at Carter.
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| Quote ="Jizzer"Not usually one to post rumours or what 'so and so says'. But been told on good authority that Cockayne is following Poore and it's to be announced this week, as expected i guess'"
It's been expected for some time.
Let's hope there is a signing fee for this sale as estimated at £30,000 several weeks ago hopefully that figure is still accurate. Can be replaced by Lynn on the wing next season.
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| With regard to the players comings and goings, especially the 'goings', I feel that credit must be given to RA and his backroom staff. The transfer fees received to date must be around £250,000, all for players that other teams were unwilling to sign or take a risk on and RA took the gamble and has turned them into commodities that other clubs want and have been willing to pay money for (as has been previously commented upon, not many RL teams pay transfer fees)
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