Come on, that's hardly rocket science is it?

We've been in SL consistently since 1998, whereas they've had several stints in the Championship

That's the point I was making.

He's here claiming HKR have a much better record in SL than us, but fails to mention that for half of that time they weren't even in SL. I'm not sure what his motives are but the spin he's putting on this is ridiculous.

Don't hazard a guess - go on the year-by-year SL tables and have a look. Do your research and back your opinion up with facts (and with context).

I did, and I told you why HKR are not a step up from Wakey.

If you want silverware - fine, leave Wakey - but don't join HKR and say it's for honours. It's not.

No motives whatsoever.

Prior to Hull KR getting promoted in 2006, we had to rely on wins on 3 occasions on the last game of the season to ensure safety. First part is hardly anything to write home about.

They have been relegated ONCE. We were very fortunate in 2015.

One other question, would we have kept our super league spot had Crusaders not withdrawn their licence application in 2011.

I did look at every single league table, and I stand with my initial point, right now, they are more likely to get category A, and challenge for honours, as things are at the moment, doesn't mean to say it will happen.

Think it comes down to how you sell the club to future signings.
HKR have shown intent for the new season whether that will lead to medals or a successful season, who knows.
For me young players will almost certainly look to move on while the club continues on its present path.
No ambition and the constant skint talk will only result of more of the same for the foreseeable future.
If your honest we probably have less to offer players than the rest of SL.

Just curious as why you are championing KR and building a case up for them being more successful? Why go to the effort.

Fact is there’s very little between the two in terms of on field results in the past 5 seasons. I wouldn’t bother looking any further than 5 seasons and doubt IMG would either.

I couldn’t give a stuff about KR myself. Batchelor I rate and would have like to see him stay. As a trinity product I hope he thrives but I’m all about Trinity.

We have a 12 million upgrade happening so in terms of facilities and training/player facilities it certainly brings us closer to our grade A. It may very well allow us to spend the cap or closer in coming seasons.

KR have also been very fortunate a couple of times also, had we not beat London on the final game of 2019, they would have been relegated then as well.

You seem to be letting a couple of decent seasons for HKR get in the way of a logically opinion of where they are on the field, for the previous 5 years they have finished below us in the league (by some way in a few of those as well).

Couldn’t disagree more to be honest.

If spending 12 million on upgrading facilities to be able to increase revenue and in the near future spend more on players and further facility upgrades to achieve an A license isn’t ambition then can you tell me what is???

The club are working to within their means but these upgrades will increase those upper limits. What’s been happening is both ambitious and positive.

I think some fans are thst used to being negative that they find it hard to shift gears.

Exactly, hull KR in recent history finishing positions are no more attractive than us on the field. I do believe the press release etc is a Hull KR spun thing as I think a few of their recent signings have said it. Probably just a line been spun to promote positive association.

Wow, I bet the nights really fly by in your house.

Perhaps if you had been more successful working within these sports clubs the obvious chip on your shoulder wouldn't be as big, why don't you get a job dog walking, it's far more gratifying if that helps.

Forgive me for not supporting HKR like your good self.

Whatever you wish to believe in your deluded world

There is only one area where HKR look a better prospect than Wakey - their excellent, passionate crowd-base.

That said, no-one ever left one club to join another because of the attendances.

Quote ="PopTart"The point is, Batch thinks so, and that is what mattered this time. No one has said he has gone there for trophies. But he clearly thinks his chance of progression is better there. It's a personal development thing I would think. Playing in your favoured position Playing in a team you think will develop you Playing somewhere a bigger club will spot you And being paid well I guess too. It's not to say Wakefield isn't a good place to be. But he thinks Hull KR is better for him right now.'" Apart from Batch himself... “I want to really kick on at KR and be challenging for things every year. I want to win some silverware. I think we can do something special as a team." If he wanted trophies, he wouldn't have picked HKR. https://hullkr.co.uk/james-batchelor-jo ... from-2023/

Quote ="PopTart"The point is, Batch thinks so, and that is what mattered this time. No one has said he has gone there for trophies. But he clearly thinks his chance of progression is better there. It's a personal development thing I would think. Playing in your favoured position Playing in a team you think will develop you Playing somewhere a bigger club will spot you And being paid well I guess too. It's not to say Wakefield isn't a good place to be. But he thinks Hull KR is better for him right now.'" Apart from Batch himself... “I want to really kick on at KR and be challenging for things every year. I want to win some silverware. I think we can do something special as a team." If he wanted trophies, he wouldn't have picked HKR. https://hullkr.co.uk/james-batchelor-jo ... from-2023/

Mate it's not 14 million though, sure you didn't mean 1.4 million.

If it's costing 14 million to extend that one terraced stand then prices really have gone up!

Or are you just quoting the initial cost of the Millward stand that was built about 4 years ago?

Judging by his own passion for HKR as against his obvious disappointment for us, it seems his preference could be based on that, unless he's just using Batch to get a dig in at the club where it seems pretty obvious where his loyalties lie, he has remarked a few times on here how he felt let down by the club.

They are looking to buy the surrounding land and redevelop the old east stand.
Clearly just plans at the moment but what they are aiming for looks impressive.

I'm not sure why some are being defensive though. Them doing well doesn't make Wakefield any less good.
What we are developing with ground, youth development and coaching team is incredible and players will want to come to us.
Batch just wanted to move for his own reasons.

Looking at a press article on Total RL , it states they have plans to demolish the West stand and replace it with something better. To me the West stand is the large original main stand next to the car park. That is strange, as it looks an excellent facility. I would have thought the far end behind the sticks would get a stand first. They must be awash with money if this is true

Not sure anyone is being defensive PT, rather just pointing out the actual truths in the situation in terms of where both clubs are at, which for me isn`t million miles apart as seems to have been made out here. In reality, there isn`t much between Wakefield and Hull KR other than as someone has said previously a bigger core fan base by a couple of thousand.

As for Batch, of course he is going to come out and give the usual; it`s a club on the up, we have a chance of trophies, I love the coaches philosophy etc he`s hardly going to come out and say they offered me more money, that`s why I'm here.

Well as it goes I happen to know a fella who is a senior partner in a global security business or so he says and is by his own admission along with his family massive KR fans, maybe he's bank rolling them.

I was thinking East Stand was the one near the car park. Might have that the wrong way around.
But that's what I thought they were developing. The seating area is old now compared to modern stadiums.

Has Batch come out and said that?

I don’t think it’s a dig at Wakefield him leaving more a desire to try somewhere else.

He’s sat and watched his brother go from a Fev player to an international whilst he has somewhat stagnated.

I thought he was outstanding towards the end of last year but prior to that he hadn’t kicked on.

It was a miracle he signed his last contract with Trinity so I don’t think it was unexpected he would go when it concluded. I genuinely think he would have gone to any club in SL because that is what he felt he needed, a change of scenery was something he needed personally.

might be old but still looks decent, would love it on our west terrace

Some French media reporting that we are talking with Dylan Napa.

Not sure, he is a quality player and loved him in the NRL but hasn`t seemed to perform at Catalan, also has shown some poor discipline which he would need to tidy up.