We're just back, banter on the coach was good considering the poor performance with the key arguments the bombs Grix couldn't deal with ( I counted 4 ) and the continued absence of a spark from dummy half. My view on the game - Salford too quick, too good, in our faces from the off, pinned us in our 20 and after that we just couldn't get going or into the game. When we finally did our last tackle plays were disjointed and I thought maybe all these enforced changes have just knocked us back which of course is to be expected. Credit to everyone though in the second half, the spirit was there if not the execution and hopefully with players coming back soon we can hit some form again and challenge for the top 4.

Did you pay any attention to Matty Ashurst and Dean Hadley both playing the full 80 minutes and still smashing the opposition and driving the ball hard from minutes 1 to 80???

I believe second rowers are still classed as forwards...

Let's be honest, Watson must've been feeding em raw meat all week, Salford really got stuck in & never let up. They'd have given anyone a game last night!

I suspect Grix is a confidence player so what do you for the best, pull him from the firing line or give him the chance to play his way back into form. We all know the sort of player he is, but I recall the first game of the season against Hull in driving wind & rain & I was shocked at how good he was at the back. Imagine my dismay at last nights showing, I appreciate he brings a lot to the team but if he's struggling under the high ball then Max deserves a crack who also brings a lot to our attacking structure.

Not singling out Scott for the loss or performance of the team.

Not sure if it has been mentioned already, but the one of the biggest issues for me was the passing out of dummy half. There were quite a few times when we had a good attacking line and the pass from dummy half went nearly over head or to ground and allowed Salford to move up and close anything down.

Yeah it's being mentioned a few times mate, if Wood were to be injured we'd really be in the mire! Hadley works his socks off in a number of positions (he was doing the kicking at one point!) but Sio just ain't good enough at this level. He was a good signing at the time as we were awful at times but the team had improved massively since then & he now stands out. The halves needed a step ladder at times, coupled with the speed of the Salford line, who I thought were probably off side at times, they got murdered & couldn't even get a kick out at times.

Think last night showed up how slow Grix is on hard pitches,Max would have got to them.Do not understand why Max was dropped after is last game

Exactly

It's more to do with confidence. Max takes responsibility for every bomb and expects to take them. Grix is happy to let someone else step forward which then creates indecision.

This was always the worry when the signature was announced.

Well, having slept on it, heres my take.
First of all, a great following went over, more than a fortnight ago, which was a great effort.
As for the team, we looked beaten before we started.
There was a lack of intensity in the warm up and then the game started.
Salford were faster quicker stronger in ALL departments and dominated from minute 1.
To not take a kick off on the full or, at least attempt to is unforgivable at SL level and we failed 2 or 3 times.
After going 2 scores down, the second looked a bit harsh, we completely lost our heads and panicked and we were desperately lacking some leadership.
Our senior players let the younger lads down and our completion was mickey poor.
I dont care who played or who was missing, if we cant complete 75/80% we wont beat any SL side and in the first half especially, it must have been 35/40% ??

And, although it hurts to get beat, you have to give credit to Salford, who were at the top of their game and looked every bit, a top 3 SL side.

Grix looked a broken man and looked very, very low on confidence and some of the basic passing was awful.

Let's hope that we can get back on the horse quickly but, an in form Hull next week, is going to be one hell of a test.

I presume you mean Grix at 6 with Miller being injured? If so, I'd go with that. Max at full back, Grix to 6 and Williams on the bench.

Wonder if Hadley will play?

Grix at 6 lol we be slower in the haves than we are now just drop him

Be significantly quicker than cant run, beat a man or kick williams - who has been consistently the least useful member of the squad,

Grix has had some really good games but always been suspect under high ball

Funny. I thought that would be Sio or 'knock-on-athon' England.

Don't think you can compare Sio or England to Williams.
Sio is what Sio is, same with England and probably on considerably less coin than Williams.

I see we've lost a game then?

Seriously. It seems some aren't happy until they can criticise individual players.
Must have been really disappointing watching us winning so many games.
Thank God for Salford's form and out injuries.

Yes that is what I meant. We look like we did when we dropped Miller...a bit lacking in fluidity and go forward. It's all a bit laboured. One thing I think Grix does well from Full back is attack the line but whether this would transfer to playing 6 I'm not sure. He's good at breaking a tackle though. Whatever, without Miller for the rest of the season (?) we need to look at livening the half back situation up. Without Miller, Finn doesn't play so well but also we had a depleted and beaten pack at Salford, so maybe a few bodies back there might help him

How can you comment on a match without mentioning individual players be it a good or a bad performance?

Think it showed the importance of speed at 6 7 and 9 and full back .With Miller out we have got the slowest 6 7 and 9 and F B in S L . Know it's the best we got but think it's got to be addressed next year

Wood isn't slow what are you on about, Grix is ok over 20 meters I agree about Finn but we knew that. Williams though is a lot slower than I was expecting.

Agree about Williams lack of speed.I still think a full back should be abell to sprint more than 20 meters.I think the only clean break from full back as been the one by Jowitt against Salford away

I would bring jowitt in we need some more attack

I would bring Jowitt in we need some more defence.