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| Quote ="Tricky2309"But according to what I hear we need 5000 members or no SL. Therefore if this the easiest way of reaching that target then wouldn't it be above putting new TV screens in Cats bar?'"
Stick it everywhere i say. just to clarify, we dont need 5000 new members, just 5000 in total, i think we need around a 1000 more before the end of the month, but its a lot better deal than the lottery, so i think its doable.
it should also be promoted in the WE, because im sure a lot of the wakefield populus would be interested, as the deal for the draw alone is a good one, let alone the add ons, it may also encourage new support.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Thats because everytime RW opens his gob bull*hit comes out'"
And now you have your very own RW.
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| Also bear in mind there are people who have recently cancelled the old trinity lottery as it turned out it had nothing to do with the club. Surely these people will sign up as they were paying into a scheme anyway.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Luck you
The reason i asked was because, even the most loyal Ted follower, could not have been more impressed by the passion and commitment shown by AG and JE in particular, i know you're far too clever to trust such a pitch
, but it really was impressive.
Of course what matters now is them following up and delivering those words, we've all heard far too many empty ones over the years, but added to the period of fire fighting followed by the period of "cosmetic" and real improvements, we now seem in a position where we are visibly trying to push the club forward.
It all hinges on a SL licence, but our chances have gone from 0% to 50% in a few months, so that can't be bad, but we all need to buy (no pun intended) into it.'"
I'm not a Ted follower, I believe in fair play and two sides to an argument. I've no issues with AG other than it's to early to judge.
He can be as impressive as he wants, great. However I've been involved in all this since 2001 and I know what an absolute basket case this club is. It will take some sorting and as of now non of the main issues have been addressed. However his willingness to invest in at least gaining us another 3 years of SL is a big step forward. Whether it will work is open to debate.
Overestimating/selling AG doesn't help him (not saying you do). Last night was evidence of that, he marketed it as the most important meeting ever, well it may have been but it nowhere near hit the utterly unrealistic ambitions of some on here - with the term "hoodwinked" being used!
We must remain clam and objective about all things and that includes AG and Elston IMO.
PS: When I said read the script I should have said guessed it, I didn't mean to infer I had insider knowledge - apologies.
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| Quote ="vastman"
PS: When I said read the script I should have said guessed it, I didn't mean to infer I had insider knowledge - apologies.'"
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| Quote ="djcool"your not inside man either then
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| Quote ="vastman"I'm not a Ted follower, I believe in fair play and two sides to an argument. I've no issues with AG other than it's to early to judge.
He can be as impressive as he wants, great. However I've been involved in all this since 2001 and I know what an absolute basket case this club is. It will take some sorting and as of now non of the main issues have been addressed. However his willingness to invest in at least gaining us another 3 years of SL is a big step forward. Whether it will work is open to debate.
Overestimating/selling AG doesn't help him (not saying you do). Last night was evidence of that, he marketed it as the most important meeting ever, well it may have been but it nowhere near hit the utterly unrealistic ambitions of some on here - with the term "hoodwinked" being used!
We must remain clam and objective about all things and that includes AG and Elston IMO.
PS: When I said read the script I should have said guessed it, I didn't mean to infer I had insider knowledge -
apologies.'"
What in your view are the main issues that need addressing?
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| Quote ="inside man"Zzzzzxxxxxxxx'"
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| Quote ="jungle man"Seems Mr G has joined the Mr W club in spinning some yarn then.............
If this has been the other way around, you Wakey fans would have jumped on this like a flash !!!'"
Not really!
Mr W. Has a track record of false dawns, broken promises, propaganda and PR spin that stretches back years while Mr G. Has delivered on everything he's promised during his short tenure.
No comparison between the two at all unless you're a Castleford fan and want to tear down Mr G. because he scares you.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Re the thread title
Driving through Cas this morning looked in my rear view mirror and saw smoke in the wake, I thought it was Hicksons then realised it has closed down, the smoke was deffo on Weldon Road '"
Thought you were going to tell me that Wheldon Rd was on fire and was burning down, Cas could then claim on the insurance, it wouldn't be the first time a Cas Chairman benefited from such an event.
No doubt Richard Wright has insured Wheldon Rd for £200million!
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| Don't ever remember a fire at Wheldon Road....I thought it was Feth who claimed council aid after a fire.
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| Quote ="rontiger"Don't ever remember a fire at Wheldon Road....I thought it was Feth who claimed council aid after a fire.'"
Do some research into previous Castleford Chairmen!
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| Quote ="The Clan"Do some research into previous Castleford Chairmen!'"
Don't remember that, do you mean that the former cas chairman may have burnt something else to the ground rather than the ground?
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| Quote ="The Clan"Thought you were going to tell me that Wheldon Rd was on fire and was burning down,=#FF0000 Cas could then claim on the insurance, it wouldn't be the first time a Cas Chairman benefited from such an event.'"
Do tell more!!
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| I can see why people do feel 'hoodwinked' and felt very flat mesen whilst coming out of the second meeting (didnt help with excitement building while we were waiting for the first meeting) - overhyped and may have caused glover to loose a bit of credability with some, but I understand why he has done it completely.
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| Quote ="bigalf"Do tell more!!'"
I'm not talking about Wheldon Rd in particular just a Cas Chairman
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"I can see why people do feel 'hoodwinked' and felt very flat mesen whilst coming out of the second meeting (didnt help with excitement building while we were waiting for the first meeting) - overhyped and may have caused glover to loose a bit of credability with some, but I understand why he has done it completely.'"
over hyped by who?
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| Quote ="kinleycat"over hyped by who?'"
Quote ="The Club" in this meeting, possibly the most important in the clubs history, we will be revealing some amazing plans for our future.
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| Quote ="The Clan"I'm not talking about Wheldon Rd in particular just a Cas Chairman'"
Thought so. That's sorted then. Others may have put a different interpretation your statement.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"'"
Ok, i see what you mean.
The hype has only come from the fans, second guessing whats going on.
The Announcements, while not earth shattering were none the less of huge importance as far as our club and its future in SL or elsewhere.
The members club, is a SL requirement and is of huge importance to us, both in trying to attain a franchise, our ability to improve junior development and then keep these players at the club and to grow the support base of the club.
The Ground improvements, again necessary for SL, promises about BV being developed for years by others, to be delivered (hopefully) by AG, our main problem has always been the ground and here we have plans for all to see of a way of at least keeping in with the pack at the bottom end of the stadium argument.
How much will the redevelopment cost and where has that money come from, if others had delivered in the past and that kind of money was made available for team strengthening we would be dancing in the street, but it is needed to be spent on the ground.
The significance of BV remaining our home until NM should not be lost on anyone, as it is our main identity.
The most historic meeting in our history? i can't think of many more historic meetings in our history can you?
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Ok, i see what you mean.
The hype has only come from the fans, second guessing whats going on.
The Announcements, while not earth shattering were none the less of huge importance as far as our club and its future in SL or elsewhere.
The members club, is a SL requirement and is of huge importance to us, both in trying to attain a franchise, our ability to improve junior development and then keep these players at the club and to grow the support base of the club.
The Ground improvements, again necessary for SL, promises about BV being developed for years by others, to be delivered (hopefully) by AG, our main problem has always been the ground and here we have plans for all to see of a way of at least keeping in with the pack at the bottom end of the stadium argument.
How much will the redevelopment cost and where has that money come from, if others had delivered in the past and that kind of money was made available for team strengthening we would be dancing in the street, but it is needed to be spent on the ground.
The significance of BV remaining our home until NM should not be lost on anyone, as it is our main identity.
The most historic meeting in our history? i can't think of many more historic meetings in our history can you?'"
I understand the importance of what was announced, I understand why Glover has done it in this way. I think the way that the Club has billed the announcement has lead to the (relative) sese of dissapointment.
"I guarantee you won't be dissapointed" or words to that effect were used, and clearly several people are - you only needed to look at the faces after the meeting and read posts on here. But as I said I understand why he did it, if we get the 5k needed to tick the box then the downside is neglegable compared to the potential upside.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"I understand the importance of what was announced, I understand why Glover has done it in this way. I think the way that the Club has billed the announcement has lead to the (relative) sese of dissapointment.
"I guarantee you won't be dissapointed" or words to that effect were used, and clearly several people are - you only needed to look at the faces after the meeting and read posts on here. But as I said I understand why he did it, if we get the 5k needed to tick the box then the downside is neglegable compared to the potential upside.'"
This is Wakefield Trinity, some people will always be disappointed.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"This is Wakefield Trinity, some people will always be disappointed.'"
I posted some while ago about the gravel voiced blowhard in the glasses and matching khaki trouser/waistcoat combo, who ruined my enjoyment of the Doncaster game; he was on a nearby table last night and started spouting off at the top of his voice - a nice lady sitting opposite promptly ripped a few strips off him and told him to stfu and stfd.
Nice lady, I salute you - it was one of the highlights of the evening.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"This is Wakefield Trinity, some people will always be disappointed.'"
Like I said yesterday, you can't please all of the people all of the time, the saying is very apt, as far as Trinity fans are concerned.
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| Quote ="The Clan"Not really!
Mr W. Has a track record of false dawns, broken promises, propaganda and PR spin that stretches back years while Mr G. Has delivered on everything he's promised during his short tenure.
No comparison between the two at all unless you're a Castleford fan and want to tear down Mr G. because he scares you.'"
Been able to state that you will paint a few walls and get the bogs clean, isn't exactly putting your neck on the block is it now. Don't get me wrong, all fan want to hear good news and winge when it's quiet, but I for one trust that the people running the club are making decisions for the right reasons i.e. Ben Bailey Homes etc. RW may (in your eys) be the biggest bull*hitter of all time, but he said the plans would be in before Christmas (that was questionned) it happened, he said that we would get planning permission (that was questionned) it happened. We are dealing with 2 very high profile companies and he has said that planning application will be going in to the council in August, and I believe him.
The point I was trying to make, is that the headline of 'Most important meeting in the clubs history' ended up the same as when big Ted went on the pitch at half-time to say they would definately not be looking at a ground share with Cas (even though we were up for it). In closing, if Cas had announced this world breaking news headline and RW had delivered that................ we would have never heard the end of it.
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