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| Quote ="chissitt"Seriously!!, do you genuinely believe that the club are so amateurish in their recruitment that things aren't in motion for next season, I'm not privvy to anything and like you I get my imfo wherever it comes from, I'm sure the club knows whose gone/going but it's not their place to say is it, as for recruitment they're not our players till they've signed and if they are still negotiating they're unlikely to broadcast it to other clubs, we may not like who they sign but one thing is for sure they will be doing their best cos without players we don't have a team.'"
I think we’ll see a change when we are mathematically safe. Simple question to anyone, would you join or sign for a company/team who might technically go bust/down putting you out if work/voiding contract. I wouldn’t until I knew things were safe
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| Quote ="JINJER"Regarding players leaving I think the thing that galls me is this squad has been gash all season, but for whatever reason something seems to have clicked these last half dozen games, surely tweaking a few positions would have been the way to go. Instead we’re letting TJ, Miller, Batchelor, Fifita and possibly Aydin all going and I’d say they are/were our more talented performers'"
Problem is if players are OOC you can’t stop them going .
I would bet all you mentioned WANT to go either chasing money we can’t match or their heart is no longer at the club in which case off they go for me.
We move on .
The club are not naive enough not to have foreseen this and we may get some answers after Thursday if we beat HKR.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Just to be clear if they win all three and we lose ours they will not have to make up 100 if they win each game by say 10 points that would reduce it to 70 we would then have to ensure if we lose games its by fine margins, Warrington are in the same boat but have a better difference.'"
What?!? You’re talking about odds like being struck by lightening
It’s virtually impossible for Tolouse to stay up
They are 3 wins behind us and 91 points behind us
They’d have to beat each team by an average of 31 points or assuming we lose each of our last games
Just to be even more clear
Wire 16 points & -111
Wakey 16 points & -177
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Tolouss we’re relegated as soon as they lost to wire
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| Quote ="musson"What?!? You’re talking about odds like being struck by lightening
It’s virtually impossible for Tolouse to stay up
They’d have to beat each team by an average of 31 points or assuming we lose each of our last games
Just to be even more clear
Wire 16 points & -111
Wakey 16 points & -177
Toulouse 12 points & - 286
Tolouss we’re relegated as soon as they lost to wire'"
Any loses we suffer will soon bring that points difference together. 45 - 0 loss at Saint Helens for example.
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| Quote ="musson"What?!? You’re talking about odds like being struck by lightening
It’s virtually impossible for Tolouse to stay up
They are 3 wins behind us and 91 points behind us
They’d have to beat each team by an average of 31 points or assuming we lose each of our last games
Just to be even more clear
Wire 16 points & -111
Wakey 16 points & -177
Toulouse 12 points & - 286
Tolouss we’re relegated as soon as they lost to wire'"
Whilst I don't see Toulouse winning all 3 of their remaining games, and given how we've played the last few weeks I don't see us getting hammered but Saints and Huddersfield are both capable of beating us by 30 points if we're not ready for them, or get complacent. Add to that a narrow defeat to Hull KR and our points difference could take a hit of 70 points.
That would then leave Toulouse needing 3 wins by an average of about 15 points which is not impossible.
I don't see it happening and I'm fairly hopeful that we will win on Thursday in our last home game and put it to bed, but it's not quite over until that happens.
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| Quote ="1315trinity"Problem is if players are OOC you can’t stop them going .
I would bet all you mentioned WANT to go either chasing money we can’t match or their heart is no longer at the club in which case off they go for me.
We move on .
The club are not naive enough not to have foreseen this and we may get some answers after Thursday if we beat HKR.'"
I think our strong finish to the season is down to having a fairly settled back line
None of our starting 1-5 (if you disclude jowitt for shaul) are actually playing through injury
Still can’t believe how bad our luck being
Topou not managed to play (thank god for the hall singing)
Lineham, utter disgrace to the shirt and after the verbal love making at what a great opportunity it was to play at fev under McDermott I don’t want him back)
Lynne played half the season
Johnstone (didn’t even manage his normal half season for us) luckily for us murphy has being excellent and is a real find for the future
Tafua comes in and looked excellent
Then brakes his wrist in the 2nd game
I don’t think you could have written any of that
In the end a fairly settled back 5 of
Shaul
Murphy
Gaskill
Hall
Kershaw
Has looked really good
Like you say
We will prob get some answers Thursday
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| Quote ="musson"What?!? You’re talking about odds like being struck by lightening
It’s virtually impossible for Tolouse to stay up
They are 3 wins behind us and 91 points behind us
They’d have to beat each team by an average of 31 points or assuming we lose each of our last games
Just to be even more clear
Wire 16 points & -111
Wakey 16 points & -177
Toulouse 12 points & - 286
Tolouss we’re relegated as soon as they lost to wire'"
It's not going to happen but, should we lose our last 3 and Toulouse win theirs, 91 points wont be enough to save us.
As I said, it's not going to happen, especially with their star player banned, Norman was the main reason for their resurgence.
Plus, I think we will win tomorrow
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| You are absolutely right that the odds are against them.
But the odds have been equally unlikely against us. I'm sure Cas were pretty confident of staying up then.
Let's just wait till its impossible before we start getting too excited. It won't be long.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Regarding players leaving I think the thing that galls me is this squad has been gash all season, but for whatever reason something seems to have clicked these last half dozen games, surely tweaking a few positions would have been the way to go. Instead we’re letting TJ, Miller, Batchelor, Fifita and possibly Aydin all going and I’d say they are/were our more talented performers'"
Why cant posters grasp the fact that these players are OOC and can go where they like??
We dont have a bank full of cash to offer them and they can obviously get a better deal elsewhere.
Its not rocket science FFS!
Apologies for the rant!
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Why cant posters grasp the fact that these players are OOC and can go where they like??
We dont have a bank full of cash to offer them and they can obviously get a better deal elsewhere.
Its not rocket science FFS!
Apologies for the rant!
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| Big Dave like Miller have give there all to this club and are two of the main reason why we have not been relegated.for the last 4 seasons Think Dave as reach Legend at this club and Miller is one of the better signings from over seas There is no hard feelings from me hope things work out well for them.Time for them and the club to go down different roads .
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| Quote ="alegend"Big Dave like Miller have give there all to this club and are two of the main reason why we have not been relegated.for the last 4 seasons Think Dave as reach Legend at this club and Miller is one of the better signings from over seas There is no hard feelings from me hope things work out well for them.Time for them and the club to go down different roads .'"
Basically agree.
Miller I’d love to keep as he’s playing better than ever.
Dave less so. I’d definitely keep him but he’s not the player he was. The effect he has when he comes on is not as game changing as it used to be. I think this is purely age nothing more.
If we keep Dave he will be a good prop to bring on but in truth I reckon we will be looking for Whitbread and others to give us the go forward we need.
We can fantasise about Dave and Andrew playing together and I reckon it could work but it looks unlikely at present. Truth is I don’t think we could offer Andrew any more than he could get in the NRL. So apart from the lure of playing with his brother I’m not sure what’s in it for him.
I suppose this time next week all will be clearer.
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| Sad to see Big Dave go but as previously said their replacements maybe even better? I’d be happy with John Asiata from Leigh as his replacement ….
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Just to be even more clear
Toulouse win three games we lose three or Wire the points difference will change hope you get this now however unlikely it is its still possible'"
Lmfao that you’ve had to turn genuine concern and opinion in to insults
If you can find any bookie that would give odd on Tolouse not getting relegated please let me know so I can put my house down against that net lmao!
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| Quote ="musson"Lmfao that you’ve had to turn genuine concern and opinion in to insults
If you can find any bookie that would give odd on Tolouse not getting relegated please let me know so I can put my house down against that net lmao!'"
I don't disagree with you I am pointing out the maths that you don't seem to grasp just be clear to quote your initial post
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"I don't disagree with you I am pointing out the maths that you don't seem to grasp just be clear to quote your initial post'"
Clearly you do disagree or you would’nt be dishing out insults
Please let me know when you find a bookie that would give odds on Toulouse staying up
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| Quote ="musson"Clearly you do disagree or you would’nt be dishing out insults
Please let me know when you find a bookie that would give odds on Toulouse staying up'"
You are both right. I'm not sure why you are arguing.
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| Quote ="PopTart"You are both right. I'm not sure why you are arguing.'"
Neither am I
One thing is for sure
We are not getting relegated regardless of it being mathematically possible
It’s virtually impossible even for Wakey to mess this up now
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| Bet we'll all suddenly start sweating if they win and we lose tomorrow.
But I agree. I want to put Warrington under pressure but I don't think Cas will be able to turn them over
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