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| Being a lifetime Trinity fan teaches you. Couple of things... whenever you look at a fixture and a team sheet and think ... that looks good I’m really looking forward to this... it turns out bad.... whenever you think ... oh I’m really worried about this ... it turns out ok!
Up the trinity!
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| Quote ="Spookisback"Being a lifetime Trinity fan teaches you. Couple of things... whenever you look at a fixture and a team sheet and think ... that looks good I’m really looking forward to this... it turns out bad.... whenever you think ... oh I’m really worried about this ... it turns out ok!
Up the trinity!'"
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Played well did batch. Made some good yards and runs.'"
I think batch is the one who could cover prop with most effect when we need to play players out of postion
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| I suspect Liam Hood may be having a trip to the disciplinary with the sin binning for the late hit. I think he may not be available for the Hull game.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Probably should have kept hold of Kopczak….'"
And on that showing Hampshire
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| Quote ="poplar cats alive"I suspect Liam Hood may be having a trip to the disciplinary with the sin binning for the late hit. I think he may not be available for the Hull game.'"
Looked to be blowing out of his derrière to me in the game ,and struggled at times to get back in line ,early days I suppose and plenty to work on .
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| Jowitt, Johnstone and Fifita looked like they wanted to win the game. Expected a bit more from Lyne.
Miller just killed virtually every move he got involved in including a few where Les Tonks could have gone through the gap but he turned back and threw out another hospital pass.
Arona's performance was not one of his best.
Typical and predictably poor show that gave the large Wakey following a depressing 80 minutes.
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| Quote ="Luppylad"I think batch is the one who could cover prop with most effect when we need to play players out of postion'"
Would certainly not be short of enthusiasm and would run into a brick wall repeatedly for wakey of asked I suspect. We have a number of capable props though.
Plenty of time to fix things up for round one.
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| We lost by 4pts after gifting them 3 tries and a sin bin in the 1st half which they scored from.
Not the end of the world, but need to improve......
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| Not a good day at the office and I was really underwhelmed watching it. Our attack seemed non existent and apart from one crafted try we relied on broken play.
I thought Kopczak was good for Fev today and agree with another users post (Adam) that we never saw him play like that for Trin. I think we have become over reliant on our Props as ball handlers. Sometimes it’s so predictable that they are going to pass and the ball speed is generally slow. Arona used to be great in this area but his reaction time seems to have dipped a little. Koppy was good today because he ran hard and direct. We don’t have a big Prop who simply runs hard and straight. Fifita is our go to man but he needs help. I still think there is room for the old fashioned Prop in today’s game and I think we miss the likes of England. Huby left the biggest void as he could run hard but could also pop an offload and generate some second phase rugby.
It’s only my opinion but I’d like us to start using our halfbacks in conjunction together in attacking plays rather than having our halves split. I remember Finn/Williams would often get in the middle (just off the ruck) to start a move and have Miller/Grix running off the back of them and the ball was moved a lot quicker. I think Walker passes as well as Miller/Lino so when all 3 are fit I’d play them all.
Today was disappointing, I expected Fev to be up for it but I was shocked at how many tackles they were riding and bouncing out of. There was a lot of arm grabbing too.
I’m hoping we start playing a bit more direct and use our Props as Props a bit more.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Would certainly not be short of enthusiasm and would run into a brick wall repeatedly for wakey of asked I suspect. We have a number of capable props though.
Plenty of time to fix things up for round one.'"
Do we?
we have a couple of out and out props and a few who will play there to the best of their ability,
Just my opinion. of course, but I think we need another powerhouse prop not a willing horse.
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| Very poor performance but anyone would think we lost 50-0 looking at some social media postings.
We lost by 4, had 2 tries disallowed and 2 sin binning's.
Don't get me wrong we didn't deserve to win, Fev out enthused us all over the field but it wasn't a
disaster. We really missed Lino and should look sharper when he is back.
It was a friendly, as has already been said no one will care at this point next week.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Very poor performance but anyone would think we lost 50-0 looking at some social media postings.
We lost by 4, had 2 tries disallowed and 2 sin binning's.
Don't get me wrong we didn't deserve to win, Fev out enthused us all over the field but it wasn't a
disaster. We really missed Lino and should look sharper when he is back.
[uIt was a friendly,[/u as has already been said no one will care at this point next week.'"
Exactly no points lost, so long as there are lessons learned if needed to be then better to sort things out early.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Very poor performance but anyone would think we lost 50-0 looking at some social media postings.
We lost by 4, had 2 tries disallowed and 2 sin binning's.
Don't get me wrong we didn't deserve to win, Fev out enthused us all over the field but it wasn't a
disaster. We really missed Lino and should look sharper when he is back.
It was a friendly, as has already been said no one will care at this point next week.'"
I agree - the first thoughts were that we were abysmal, which we were, but yet we could still have won it had we taken our chances.
Lineham's acrobatics deserved a try!
I also agree with some that Koppy never played like that for us and I stand by my earlier comments that we're at least one such prop short. Fifita shouldn't be the sole battering ram. I know we have some that CAN play prop, but none of them would have played like Koppy played yesterday.
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| Quote ="Spookisback"Being a lifetime Trinity fan teaches you. Couple of things... whenever you look at a fixture and a team sheet and think ... that looks good I’m really looking forward to this... it turns out bad.... whenever you think ... oh I’m really worried about this ... it turns out ok!
Up the trinity!'"
You're right there.
The worst time to be a Trinity fan is when you go to a game expecting to win, we usually get beat, yesterday being a classic example.
Far better knowing that it will be a tough game and then coming back with a win.
Nobody is going to be over confident about beating Hull, so we might just sneak a win
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| DISCIPLINE
It’s probably the thing that cost us the game yesterday as we basically played 20mins with 12 men..
First sin bin.
There’s nothing wrong in chasing down the kicker but it needs to be the ball not the man. Liam Hood might end up in front of the RFL discipline panel as they seem to be cracking down on player protection..
sin bin 2
Dave Fifita was our best forward yesterday, until the sin bin.. it’s unusual for Fifita to retaliate and I suspect he got provoked… nevertheless he needs to be better than that..as Fev got the exact result they wanted …a yellow card!
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Get used to seeing plenty of yellow cards and a trip to the RFL this season if our and any other teams discipline isn’t where it needs to be..I reckon they are going to be all over anything that looks high , and late along with punches..especially with the RFL concerns about concussion…
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| The problem from my point of view would be we will probably be having the same sort of conversation at least 4/5times during the season.
Trinity never seem capable of learning lessons.
Yes it's been that way for years so come on Trinity make some commitment to rectify the problem
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| Quote ="Belle Vue"DISCIPLINE
It’s probably the thing that cost us the game yesterday as we basically played 20mins with 12 men..
First sin bin.
There’s nothing wrong in chasing down the kicker but it needs to be the ball not the man. Liam Hood might end up in front of the RFL discipline panel as they seem to be cracking down on player protection..
sin bin 2
Dave Fifita was our best forward yesterday, until the sin bin.. it’s unusual for Fifita to retaliate and I suspect he got provoked… nevertheless he needs to be better than that..as Fev got the exact result they wanted …a yellow card!
Footnote
Get used to seeing plenty of yellow cards and a trip to the RFL this season if our and any other teams discipline isn’t where it needs to be..I reckon they are going to be all over anything that looks high , and late along with punches..especially with the RFL concerns about concussion…'"
They will be all over it but there wasn’t a punch from Fifita luckily. Thought it was harsh at the time and even watching it back on replay it’s handbags at worse. I’m not sure what he got sent to bin for. Not sure why he got sent as he didn’t seem to make contact or very little. You see players grappling with each other getting a telling off and no card. I agree with you that he needs to be better though. Better to dust himself off and go hunting with a hard legal challenge when the opportunity arises.
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| Neither Fifita nor Hood were called to disciplinary meeting today.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Neither Fifita nor Hood were called to disciplinary meeting today.'"
I saw a disciplinary but it said matches on 16th so I’m assuming if they are to be called up it will be next week.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Neither Fifita nor Hood were called to disciplinary meeting today.'"
Just watched the game over breakfast this fine Australia Day .... and replayed the two incidents a few times.... Hood came into a player after he had released the ball... but barely touched him, then the Rovers man went down like German soccer player.
Fifita reacted to something in the tackle and gestured to the player he felt responsible before he was restrained... there was no punch, intent to punch or contact made.
Overall the refereeing was sub standard ...
ps the pass from Jowitt to Lineham was backwards
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| Quote ="Spookisback"Just watched the game over breakfast this fine Australia Day .... and replayed the two incidents a few times.... Hood came into a player after he had released the ball... but barely touched him, then the Rovers man went down like German soccer player.
Fifita reacted to something in the tackle and gestured to the player he felt responsible before he was restrained... there was no punch, intent to punch or contact made.
Overall the refereeing was sub standard ...
ps the pass from Jowitt to Lineham was backwards'"
I was stood directly in line with that pass and it was about a yard forward.
Didn’t see the Hood incident, Fafita despite being so far away as I was at the time like you say looked to be gesturing at a Fev player with Seni Lafao simply holding him calming the situation. Nothing in it at all.
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| Quote ="Belle Vue"DISCIPLINE
It’s probably the thing that cost us the game yesterday as we basically played 20mins with 12 men..
First sin bin.
There’s nothing wrong in chasing down the kicker but it needs to be the ball not the man. Liam Hood might end up in front of the RFL discipline panel as they seem to be cracking down on player protection..
sin bin 2
Dave Fifita was our best forward yesterday, until the sin bin.. it’s unusual for Fifita to retaliate and I suspect he got provoked… nevertheless he needs to be better than that..as Fev got the exact result they wanted …a yellow card!
Footnote
Get used to seeing plenty of yellow cards and a trip to the RFL this season if our and any other teams discipline isn’t where it needs to be..I reckon they are going to be all over anything that looks high , and late along with punches..especially with the RFL concerns about concussion…'"
Just looked at the incidents on trinity tv and looks like I got the first bit wrong .. Fev player released the ball l( not a kick)and Hood pushed him in the back but there doesn’t look to be much in it..
But players will need to be careful this season because it looks like the cards are going to be out!
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| Quote ="Belle Vue"Just looked at the incidents on trinity tv and looks like I got the first bit wrong .. Fev player released the ball l( not a kick)and Hood pushed him in the back but there doesn’t look to be much in it..
But players will need to be careful this season because it looks like the cards are going to be out!'"
Yep, you can't push a player at all now after the ball has gone, literally any contact is going to see you binned, it's to do with the growing evidence from scientific research of the potential damage caused by flexing of the neck. Every coach will have spelled that out firmly to his players.
I agree re the Fifita incident, it's hard to see what the sin binning was for other than marching purposefully towards the Fev player.
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