We have the players we have and in the 2nd half Saints skill and ability ( helped by our mistakes) just came through ! We cannot match teams like Saints , Catalans, Wigan etc with a full team . The fact is we are just not good enough !!!

We certainly made saints look a lot better than they should have been with dumb plays and penalties.Some embarrassing efforts in tackling resulting in soft tries and probably a second half for kershaw to forget as he was certainly targeted but hopefully will learn .Overall there was plenty of effort but clueless and toothless in attack ,think we made just 12 m in 6 tackles from of our line .Certainly look much better when we throw the ball about, but that isn’t nearly often enough to worry the opposition who dealt with everything we had without breaking sweat .

That was a pretty impressive second half collapse, even for us. Something just isn’t right within that team, be it the players physically or mentally, the coaching or just the whole club mentality i don’t know but something has to change soon. This ain’t going to be solved by the signing of another big prop either, it runs much deeper than that.

Perhaps we aren’t as good as we think we are.
Where the heck is the first win coming from?
I’m at a loss but am no coach.
I’ve sat on the fence for a long time but we’re getting further away from a win and there needs to be a change - sorry but the buck falls with the coach if the players aren’t doing it for CC then we need a coach they will do it for!

Under the structure we play to why is losing Miller going to make any difference, it’s not. We simply don’t offer any variation and create enough space for all of the backs

We might not be as good as we thought but i’m damn sure those players are better than the stuff they are coming out with right now.

Absolutely, we have some quality players IMO.

We do .... just not enough and not in the critical positions . Imo

If it's nothing to with the coaches why have we got one ,and every other team in S L including the teams in OZ

We have quality players that for whatever reason aren’t firing on all cylinders and haven’t been for some time .Is that the coach ,their fitness ,their attitudes, I really don’t know , but it needs to change and change quick as the clock is ticking and I really don’t to want to watch us in another million pound game ,my old ticker won’t take it ..

Didn't we bring in Last and Poching to assist CC? There's enough of them now working with the players all week but the performances just aren't there.

Too many cooks an all that

Not gonna slag cc off but cant defend him either and its between us and leigh for bottom

I can find one positive in amongst all this and that's that we seem to be able to defend really well for one half which to me, on the face of it, reflects well on the players attitudes? So wtf goes wrong? Is it the fact we know we can't score and the pressure gets to us? Ignoring everything else it's impossible to get away from the bare facts of our win percentage over best part of two seasons...

What was the post match excuse this time, whatever it was I am sure Chester will not take any of the blame.

As a full time score it's probably what I expected, the fact its a 40 minute score is a very worrying, we are in deep trouble.

Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"What was the post match excuse this time, whatever it was I am sure Chester will not take any of the blame.'" There you go https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p09dxyhj

Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"What was the post match excuse this time, whatever it was I am sure Chester will not take any of the blame.'" There you go https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p09dxyhj

Seriously I don't know what people are expecting
We had our full left side missing which is our key attacking force.
Miller went off during the game
No Tanginoa, Batch off

We kept a near full strength Sts side scoreless in first half with some good defense.

A couple of the tries were simply down to slow reactions from Kershaw.

And we played to the end in an effort to score.

It's a long season. We may not win another but we shouldn't be judging the season on losing to Leeds, Wigan and Sts away.
Even in our best seasons I wouldn't expect to bear them away.

It's going to be a problem if Miller is long term injury but we'll just have to do our best.

That's all well and good but the second half collapses are becoming a habit. And the less said about our toothless attack the better

Do you know what it's not a problem to actually believe in the club but the results and score line speak for them selves and your blind faith thinking it's going to turn around just amazes me, expecting to lose to these clubs is a pathetic attitude that will keep us at the bottom

Like it or not change has to happen

I don't expect to lose. I just look past the score sometimes to understand the reasons.
I don't like losing. But to be as distraught as some are on here is way over the top.

We have problems. There is no doubt.
But you as equally blind if you don't see the good that happened in the first half and the impact missing our two best attacking backs and our best attacking forward, our top tackler, while having 3 players play their first match this season and then losing your 6 and captain during the game against top of the league away.

For me that’s what makes it even worse. If we got blown off the park from the start then fair enough. But to have 2 completely polarised half’s, which has happened all season shows there’s something very odd going on.

I don't comment on games that I don't watch but I can comment on the result I see and games I listen to what through a bias radio station, you cannot take anything positive from a loss and a big loss at that

We failed to score against 12 men. I mean come on

We played a Leeds team missing two centres, one wing and the scrum half but they managed to beat us. We played a Wigan team missing two centres and a winger and they managed to beat us. The views reported by some on here are not just based on one, two or even three games but nearly two seasons worth. I would be happy if we had just lost the first three in isolation but we have lose 38 many of which were in the same manner.
I admire your loyalty to the club but unfortunately the club are stretching the loyalty of many supporters with the performances on the pitch.