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| Quote ="worksopwildcat"Shows what a garbage captain Kirmond is. B Smith barely knows the group whereas captain fantasic has had his position with the club for some time. If you had the right captain in place then maybe a proper culture would have been developed. I would put diamonds on it that B Smith had no idea these pathetic individuals were going on the lash a day after they disgraced the club with one of the most spineless displays from any group of "professional....(what a joke) athletes" I have ever seen. I would also wager that Kirmond would have know what his team mates were doing and because of his own garbage attitude and behaviour in the past felt compromised in trying to do anything about it. To be honest I don't even know if Kirmond is still captain of the team! Good player but absolute disaster of a captain....he just hasn't got the proper character to do the job especially as we obviously have within the squad several immature idiots.'"
Why does this show why Kirmond is "a gabage captain" what has it got to do with him if he was'nt there.And you must only be presuming he knew what his team mates were up to,Do you have the facts to back up your assumption and how can you say he has a "garbage attitude and behaviour" this again is your own opinion you can't babysit team players 24/7
This was a totally unprofessional behaviour by the 2 players concerned and only they should be held responsible and should have acted in a more professional manner,but these things happen in all walks of professional sports and always will,but i can,t understand why bring DK into it.
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| So no real facts about who has done what
No real evidence of how much pride the players not playing have
No evidence of what Kirmond knew or what his responsibility even is
But..... well, who cares about that eh.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Any truth that Tim Smith, Kevin Locke, Reece Lynne and Scott Anderson have all been sacked? Seemed an odd conversation to be having with someone in Manchester last night. I suppose the 19 man squad should give some indication whether its true, partly true or complete b*llocks.'"
So, is it accepted that these were the four in the car? Anyone know different? And as T Smith is the one charged with failing to be breathalysed, the police must believe he was driving.
There doesn't seem to be any grounds for sacking for the other 3, but suspended pending a club inquiry is a possibility I would think?
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| Whatever has happened, this doesn't bode well and everything is starting to point towards the worst possible outcome for the end of the season.
Do the club give those involved a slap on the wrist and sweep it under the carpet, to give us a better hope of survival? Or make an example of them and make a dent in the squad? I guess it depends on what's actually happened.
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| i dont know about other fans, but i have a deep down heavy feeling this season its all going to pot,so much negativity about the club in virtually every aspect,from players to fans to people running the club, with the season coming to a close there just does not seem to be any spark at all to lift anyone involved with Wakey Trinity. with just 2 games to go in the qualifiers, a massive lift in confidence & some good news coming out of Belle Vue would be great news but where is it going to come from?
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| I ask would we miss them and I don't think we would Lee Smith has done well at full back in fact we have looked good when he has played no1 so that's Locks spot sorted..Lynne not a centre and not a wing speed merchant and not a good defender Riley or Johnstone to cover on wing bring Arundal back at centre...Tim Smith been poor more or less all season probs had 3 good games covered by putting Godinet in at half back..Anderson not broke any pots this season at all just been steady so no great loss think we can cover with what we have Walker Yates whats happened to Kavanagh.
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| Quote ="les-goose"I ask would we miss them and I don't think we would Lee Smith has done well at full back in fact we have looked good when he has played no1 so that's Locks spot sorted..Lynne not a centre and not a wing speed merchant and not a good defender Riley or Johnstone to cover on wing bring Arundal back at centre...Tim Smith been poor more or less all season probs had 3 good games covered by putting Godinet in at half back..Anderson not broke any pots this season at all just been steady so no great loss think we can cover with what we have Walker Yates whats happened to Kavanagh.'"
I agree.
If the allegations/stories are true, then it is an ideal opportunity for a team shake-up.
The pathetic display last Saturday opens the way surely, for new blood, for players who care about our club. Too many players have had far too many chances and failed, not just not coming up with the goods but not trying, which is a worse sin for me.
The players mentioned - if the allegations are true, should be dropped. I don't want to see them in a Trinity shirt again.
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| I have to ask, do any of these allegations/rumours involve a horse and a swimming pool, or indeed Jamie Rooney?
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| When did Lyne & Anderson get dragged into this? When a Salford fan spread a rumour on this forum?
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| Quote ="wakefieldwall"When did Lyne & Anderson get dragged into this? When a Salford fan spread a rumour on this forum?'"
Don't poo poo this, I've a mate at the club, he "can't make any comment" his silence says it all!
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| Quote ="wakefieldwall"When did Lyne & Anderson get dragged into this? When a Salford fan spread a rumour on this forum?'"
Heard it from Johnny Thompson, not sure he's a Salford fan ?
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| Quote ="MashPotatoes"Heard it from Johnny Thompson, not sure he's a Salford fan ?'"
Fair enough, everything on here seemed to snowball from one comment.
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| Quote ="Trinity1315"I agree.
If the allegations/stories are true, then it is an ideal opportunity for a team shake-up.
The pathetic display last Saturday opens the way surely, for new blood, for players who care about our club. Too many players have had far too many chances and failed, not just not coming up with the goods but not trying, which is a worse sin for me.
The players mentioned - if the allegations are true, should be dropped. I don't want to see them in a Trinity shirt again.'"
Assuming the allegations regarding the 4 are true and they will be suspended then I'd be looking at:
L Smith
T Johnstone - although I expect that we'll probably see Tansey instead
B Tupou
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J Crowther - deserves a shot and is a Wakey lad who I'm sure is probably hurting as much as the fans
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A Yates - Picked as I'm not sure Molloy is fit but he would come in for me if he is fit. Kavanagh is another option here.
Washbrook can spell Sio if needed
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| Quote ="wakefieldwall"When did Lyne & Anderson get dragged into this? When a Salford fan spread a rumour on this forum?'"
I have just read a press release from the Press Association which states Reece Lyne, Kevin Locke and Tim Smith are all missing this weekend due to internal investigations. No suggestion that Scott Anderson is missing, yet - but the other three definitely are.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"I have just read a press release from the Press Association which states Reece Lyne, Kevin Locke and Tim Smith are all missing this weekend due to internal investigations. No suggestion that Scott Anderson is missing, yet - but the other three definitely are.'"
Radio Leeds sports news has just said the same, no mention of SA.
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| Quote ="PHe"Radio Leeds sports news has just said the same, no mention of SA.'"
Scott Anderson not named in your 19 man squad this week.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Scott Anderson not named in your 19 man squad this week.'"
Now don't go starting rumours.
Seriously I feel for Wakefield they seem to have made the same mistakes we have made and brought in some bad influence into the club. As we are finding out it seems to leave a bad atmosphere even when people leave
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Scott Anderson not named in your 19 man squad this week.'"
Looks like you were on the money for the first three of them but it doesn't look good all round.
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| Quote ="bezzerscr"Now don't go starting rumours.'"
Not starting anything, I was the one who first mentioned this earlier in the week and just asked if anyone had heard anything. Since then, it's come out all four have been omitted from the 19 man squad for this weekends game and three of them are under investigation.
Just spoken to the same guy who told me about this, sounds like Locke and Smith are history, Anderson will move on at the end of the season but Lyne might get a reprieve.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"... but Lyne might get a reprieve.'"
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Damn.'"
Exactly my thoughts. If any reason to cancel his contract presented itself we shud be jumping at the chance. He has no rugby ability and lost the pace he had when he first joined. How he gets a game at centre I don't know
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| You never know Lyne may end up at Warrington?
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| FickleFinger of fate wrote "You never know Lyne may end up at Warrington?"
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| Isn't this why we signed him up on an extended contract, as Agar said he would be International material and would be hard to keep hold of?
We will end up signing Gary Wheeler, good player but very unlucky with injuries.
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