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| But the club is not in admin, just the business behind it, and there in lies the problem.
The club in admin is not the club holding the contracts of the players or indeed recently selling the players.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"But the club is not in admin, just the business behind it, and there in lies the problem.
The club in admin is not the club holding the contracts of the players or indeed recently selling the players.'"
Its a farce of huge proportions.
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| ...is the right answer!!
2 points to Al's team.
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| RFL have done there job. Don't no why some are criticising them. They helped Bradford with Odsal. I feel sorry for the hardcore Bradford fans here.
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| After getting 2 points from us they are only 4 points behined, after sunday they will probably be only 2 points behined
so come our game against catalan !!!!!!!! who knows but the point is they are no ware near relegation certanties.
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| Bradford won't stay up. you were absolutely woeful last week and still should've won. They'll probably beat London but won't get as many surprise wins as you will
Who will be their half backs for the next 3 months? Addy and Gale? They'll not be good enough in a month of Sunday's. .....That's assuming they've still a club.
They'll go down for certain and it might be the best thing for them to just start again. Sometimes you have to accept that something is irreparably broken and replace it.
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"Bradford won't stay up. you were absolutely woeful last week and still should've won. They'll probably beat London but won't get as many surprise wins as you will
Who will be their half backs for the next 3 months? Addy and Gale? They'll not be good enough in a month of Sunday's. .....That's assuming they've still a club.
They'll go down for certain and it might be the best thing for them to just start again. Sometimes you have to accept that something is irreparably broken and replace it.'"
Sorry Dave i'm with Briggy on this one.
The reason they won was because they were better than us and that was without a strarting half back who will be back half way through the season.
I think IF they get through the next couple of weeks they will be within spitting distance of us, if not level, perhaps in front - who knows?
the IF though may be a big one, i really think (if alls fair) the next couple of weeks could be tough.
BB2014 could refuse to let THEIR employees be available for example, leaving the club in schtuck, unless the rfl move quickly!!
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| I might be accused of kicking the bulls whilst they are down, but in a relegation season isn't the RFL paying the players wages handing them an unfair advantage?
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Sorry Dave i'm with Briggy on this one.
The reason they won was because they were better than us and that was without a strarting half back who will be back half way through the season.
I think IF they get through the next couple of weeks they will be within spitting distance of us, if not level, perhaps in front - who knows?
the IF though may be a big one, i really think (if alls fair) the next couple of weeks could be tough.
BB2014 could refuse to let THEIR employees be available for example, leaving the club in schtuck, unless the rfl move quickly!!'"
No need to aplogise mate
my retort to that would be that I don't see much room for improvement with the bulls, whereas Wakefileld have the potential to improve massively over the coming weeks.
I think you'll be far too strong for Bradford to peg back - don't forget you play the broncos twice each.
.......otherwise fine, YOU'RE DOWN YOU WAKEFIELD PLEBS!!!
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| Thats the spirit Dave!!!
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| To have the points deduction now after their first win suits them. Now on -4, they will win next week to be on -2. They will catch up in no time.
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| I'm with Dave@Cas on this one.
Although we were utter garbage against the Bulls last week, we have plenty of room for improvement, wheras, without a major new backer, the Bulls wont improve significantly this season and they may even lose a couple of players.
Lets face it, if we don't improve then we would deserve to be relegated.
Out of 160 minutes this season we have played well for 40, although on the plus side, we have defended ok.
Our problem has been with ball retention, which will definitely get better.
Onwards and upwards for The Mighty Trin !
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I'm with Dave@Cas on this one.
Although we were utter garbage against the Bulls last week, we have plenty of room for improvement, wheras, without a major new backer, the Bulls wont improve significantly this season and they may even lose a couple of players.
Lets face it, if we don't improve then we would deserve to be relegated.
Out of 160 minutes this season we have played well for 40, although on the plus side, we have defended ok.
Our problem has been with ball retention, which will definitely get better.
Onwards and upwards for The Mighty Trin !'"
don't be getting ahead of yourselves, 12th will do just fine
theres sill a long way to go and Bradford may turn their fortunes around, but by then I think Wakefield will have 3/4 wins to their name at least and will be quite a margin ahead.
The squad you have will get beter whereas there's can only get weaker in the short term. We are hwever, playing this season in the short term.
As a Cas fan looking at the table, I can only be happy to see
London 0
Bradford -4
....and I'm sure you guys think the same. It'd be a nice feather in the cap though to finish 6+ from Bradford, I think by staying up purely because of Bradford's points deduction would give Mr Agar an unwarranted contract extension if that was the case, as IMO your current squad should do it without other sides getting docked points.
sorry for meandering O/T
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don't be getting ahead of yourselves, 12th will do just fine
theres sill a long way to go and Bradford may turn their fortunes around, but by then I think Wakefield will have 3/4 wins to their name at least and will be quite a margin ahead.
The squad you have will get beter whereas there's can only get weaker in the short term. We are hwever, playing this season in the short term.
As a Cas fan looking at the table, I can only be happy to see
London 0
Bradford -4
....and I'm sure you guys think the same. It'd be a nice feather in the cap though to finish 6+ from Bradford, I think by staying up purely because of Bradford's points deduction would give Mr Agar an unwarranted contract extension if that was the case, as IMO your current squad should do it without other sides getting docked points.
sorry for meandering O/T'"
You forget to mention Warrington, Catalan and Wigan 0 points
I'm not bothered which 2 clubs are below us in the league
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| Paul Cullen and Phil Clarke on Boots n All talking a lot of sense re Bulls situjation.
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| Yep, get Phil Clarke beside Cullen, who knows about rugby and he starts to talk sense.
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| No, I've just been for a read of the Bulls forum and there is only one truth: something something stolen sky money. Something something the RFL. Something something other greedy clubs. Something something everyone else's view outside the Bulls is worthless. Something something but we wouldn't have any money for a good team.
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| getting sick of hearing about the poor old bulls,
Cummins think we have a strong enough team to stave off relegation if we can keep our team, if we get a few loan players,
Hunter-Paul about how the club has been in adversity we need to keep our squad
at least Cullen said clubs should live within their means
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"No, I've just been for a read of the Bulls forum and there is only one truth: something something stolen sky money. Something something the RFL. Something something other greedy clubs. Something something everyone else's view outside the Bulls is worthless. Something something but we wouldn't have any money for a good team.'"
Hundreds of posts, summed up in a few short sentences.
One thing baffles me is the total lack of outrage when other clubs were docked points for insolvency events, not least ours; no outcry that people lost their livelihoods, no angst that we had to sell our best players and absolutely no condemnation of the RFL for kicking a club when it was down.
It's broadly similar to the sudden cultish support for free market capitalism that seems to have broken out in Salford; I don't remember them being quite so interested in it a couple of years ago, before Dr Willy Wanka arrived with his bonkers 'Golden Ticket' idea.
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| I seriously believe that all those involved now have zero credibility. RHP is a big name in the sport and he has pinned his name alongside the others involved - and been more publicly vocal about it. I fear for his career as he has been shown to be naïve at best and ....... at worst.
I posted on Twitter yesterday - 'note to Francis Cummins - YOU CANNOT AFFORD THAT SQUAD, YOU HAVE NO MONEY!'
And that is where all this starts, but how will it end???
If the Bulls supporters took it on the chin and accepted any form of responsibility I would feel much different. I regret that I have seen little of that!
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| I am clearly in s small minority but I don't see why this still bothers people.
Everyone was outraged when they felt they weren't going to be treated fairly but they have now.
6 points docked is max expected. Condemnation from RFL and from Sky pundits.
They are having to sell players, one to us.
I'm ok with all that. I don't expect the Bulls fans to like it though.
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| Quote ="TRB"I seriously believe that all those involved now have zero credibility. RHP is a big name in the sport and he has pinned his name alongside the others involved - and been more publicly vocal about it. I fear for his career as he has been shown to be naïve at best and ....... at worst.
I posted on Twitter yesterday - 'note to Francis Cummins - YOU CANNOT AFFORD THAT SQUAD, YOU HAVE NO MONEY!'
And that is where all this starts, but how will it end???
If the Bulls supporters took it on the chin and accepted any form of responsibility I would feel much different. I regret that I have seen little of that!'"
I don't get the RHP comment. He is trying to help a club he loves from going under. He hasn't been involved in the cause at all.
Why is his credibility shot?
You yourself have pinned your colours to the Trinity mast when in trouble.
Do you think that has affected your credibility?
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| Quote ="PopTart"I am clearly in s small minority but I don't see why this still bothers people.
Everyone was outraged when they felt they weren't going to be treated fairly but they have now.
6 points docked is max expected. Condemnation from RFL and from Sky pundits.
They are having to sell players, one to us.
I'm ok with all that. I don't expect the Bulls fans to like it though.'"
it bothers me because this is the most vital year for any club that goes down, while other can walk around as if there's no care in the world its my club that's could suffer
this select program has been going on for years now and I've had enough
off to work now
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| Quote ="PopTart"I am clearly in s small minority but I don't see why this still bothers people.'"
It doesn't bother me - I'm making an observation.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"You forget to mention Warrington, Catalan and Wigan 0 points
I'm not bothered which 2 clubs are below us in the league
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you know what, I don't see a great deal in Catalans at all. Cas have a smaller pack and demolished them - and from the games I've seen on TV, Leon Price just goes missing for too long. Cardace and Escare can't catch..... Don't think they'll be sitting too pretty come season end.
That's my prediction and I shal stick with it for the next 25 weeks
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