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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"i love the club but sometimes you just get worn down by it all. it just gos on and on. ag hasnt become a successful business man by being thick even he knows you cant spend what you havnt got, so why let it get so far out of control again.'"
It looks like he put too much faith in JE. Lets face it running a window company is one thing but entering what is traditionally a loss making business of running a SL club is another. I think Glover realised this but at the same time misjudged Elstons ability when he delegated him big responsibilities.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Welcome to the part time Championships in that case'"
Look who's back! RLfans version of them old hags who used to sit under the gallows knitting.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Look who's back! RLfans version of them old hags who used to sit under the gallows knitting.'"
It gives me no pleasure to be visiting the Wakey site again under these circumstances, last time I visited was to commend your support after I joined you all in the south stand at the LSV for your game against Salford
My post was just in response to the suggestion of returning to a members club, I doubt it would work
All the best
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| Sometimes saying less is best, we like probably quite a few clubs are strapped for cash but they don't advertise it quite so Publically. I blame many on this forum for their paranoia forcing our new chairman into an ilconcieved statement. He has with his announcement allowed open season by the press on all our players signed or not. If we sell more players I hope some on here are happy with their contribution.
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| If you want proof of the Agents comments look at the post from Get Em On Side below - taking his bat home and not attending next game. Well aren't you the future! Well done Chairman - one down already! Get a grip!
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| £400k hole, equates pretty much to the cost of selling seasons tickets too cheap last year. Bradford did the same you would have thought we would have learnt from them. Question then is who's idea was it?
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| A bit of honesty, the fans want to know the situation; it's been explained.
If you want to walk that's your prerogative.
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| Quote ="Agent XIII"[uSometimes saying less is best,[/u we like probably quite a few clubs are strapped for cash but they don't advertise it quite so Publically. I blame many on this forum for their paranoia forcing our new chairman into an ilconcieved statement. He has with his announcement allowed open season by the press on all our players signed or not. If we sell more players I hope some on here are happy with their contribution.'"
Yeah we've seen that from the last CEO, it all went swimming well didn't it.
Do you really think other clubs don't know about the loan from the RFL and the unpaid bills, if you want someone to blame if we sell more players try thinking about who put us in this mess and blame them.
Its not hard to understand is it.
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| Quote ="Agent XIII"Sometimes saying less is best, we like probably quite a few clubs are strapped for cash but they don't advertise it quite so Publically. I blame many on this forum for their paranoia forcing our new chairman into an ilconcieved statement. He has with his announcement allowed open season by the press on all our players signed or not. If we sell more players I hope some on here are happy with their contribution.'"
You are Jimmy Elston and I claim my £5, although it'll be pretty worthless if its yours!!
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| Quote ="kinleycat"You are Jimmy Elston and I claim my £5, although it'll be pretty worthless if its yours!!'"
I think both of them have logged in tonight and thrown up deflector shields, it won't work.
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| Quote ="senoj"£400k hole, equates pretty much to the cost of selling seasons tickets too cheap last year. Bradford did the same you would have thought we would have learnt from them. Question then is who's idea was it?'"
It was the idea of the BOD.
Presumably the plan was to increase attendances with the reduced prices, followed by a year on year increase in the price of the S.T’s.
Judging by our attendances over the last two years the plan was making progress. In hindsight the price hike should have been greater, however, it’s a risky manoeuvre to go too high.
The loss of our main sponsor had a far more detrimental effect than not increasing prices by enough IMO – allegedly in the reason of the said £400k.
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| Set guns to stun number one!!
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"It was the idea of the BOD.
Presumably t[urlhe plan was to increase attendances with the reduced prices,[/url followed by a year on year increase in the price of the S.T’s.
Judging by our attendances over the last two years the plan was making progress. In hindsight the price hike should have been greater, however, it’s a risky manoeuvre to go too high.
The loss of our main sponsor had a far more detrimental effect than not increasing prices by enough IMO – allegedly in the reason of the said £400k.'"
So we can tick another box (that others don't have to tick) so we can stop in super league.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"You are Jimmy Elston and I claim my £5, although it'll be pretty worthless if its yours!!'"
Ha ha. Who do we blame when he eventually gets booted out? (Not a moment too soon either, should never, ever have been involved after being part of the last regime.)
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Ha ha. Who do we blame when he eventually gets booted out? (Not a moment too soon either, should never, ever have been involved after being part of the last regime.)'"
I plan to blame Al!!
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| Yes this was my first post but I was under the impression this was a forum. I have been a season ticket holder, shareholder and supporter since 1970. The reason I felt the need to post was because I was fed up of reading self righteous members who feel they know best and don't take criticism of their views too well.
I suppose if you read the usual suspects tonight's defeat is down to either, Fox, Cockayne, washbrook or all three depending on their personal dislikes. We are in trouble but I still feel some of you are responsible for making the situation worse and forcing the chairman's hand to make what I felt was an ill conceived and far too detailed statement just to placate some of you. If you look at the other clubs forum they have supporters making criticisms but no club felt the need to make a statement.
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| Maybe the players ought to set up like a swear box from match days to contribute towards the shortfall.
For every handling error, or penalty conceded, they should donate something towards the debt (ie £50 or £100 toward the mistake).
After tonight this would soon be made up.
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| Somebody had earlier posted that some of the players had refused a pay cut.
If this is true, after tonight, it would be interesting to know which ones.
Maybe any management with any backbone would identify this and not pick them
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| Quote ="Agent XIII"Yes this was my first post but I was under the impression this was a forum. I have been a season ticket holder, shareholder and supporter since 1970. The reason I felt the need to post was because I was fed up of reading self righteous members who feel they know best and don't take criticism of their views too well.
I suppose if you read the usual suspects tonight's defeat is down to either, Fox, Cockayne, washbrook or all three depending on their personal dislikes. We are in trouble but I still feel some of you are responsible for making the situation worse and forcing the chairman's hand to make what I felt was an ill conceived and far too detailed statement just to placate some of you. If you look at the other clubs forum they have supporters making criticisms but no club felt the need to make a statement.'"
We lost tonight because Huddersfield have a better team. Simple as. No blaming players for mistakes, it was a better team beating a worse team.
We've been fed lies and mistruths for years from the top table at Belle Vue, why hide the fact that investment is needed when it was hardly a secret, thanks to the number of CCJ's and Winding Up Orders, that it was fairly obviously the case.
Would we lose players to other clubs without the statement? Of course we would! Nothing has changed. We're a selling club. We have been for years.
I have no idea if the new man will be a success, history says probably not, but if he's honest, that's all we can ask. Don't hype up a lottery as a massive announcement, don't claim to be a 'life long fan' when you're nothing of the sort. Just do the best you can to not run the club into the ground, and the right minded people will be fair.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"We lost tonight because Huddersfield have a better team. Simple as. No blaming players for mistakes, it was a better team beating a worse team.
We've been fed lies and mistruths for years from the top table at Belle Vue, why hide the fact that investment is needed when it was hardly a secret, thanks to the number of CCJ's and Winding Up Orders, that it was fairly obviously the case.
Would we lose players to other clubs without the statement? Of course we would! Nothing has changed. We're a selling club. We have been for years.
I have no idea if the new man will be a success, history says probably not, but if he's honest, that's all we can ask. Don't hype up a lottery as a massive announcement, don't claim to be a 'life long fan' when you're nothing of the sort. Just do the best you can to not run the club into the ground, and the right minded people will be fair.'"
quite simply the best post ive read on the subject, left here 2 years ago because of the rose tinted ag and supporters trust threads, i resoect both but in honesty both have got us nowhere, im not happy about this at all me and wtw need an appointment at relate at present, but think some with dreams of titles, flash new grounds, etc etc need a meeting with reality a lot sooner
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| Quote ="Mr Bliss"So we can tick another box (that others don't have to tick) so we can stop in super league.'"
But it’s not just about ticking boxes is it?
Now if you’d referred to the stands I would agree, definitely a waste of money presumably to pamper to the RFL.
However, increasing attendances isn’t a box ticking exercise, the general consensus is a club requires in the region of 10k supporters to be viable in SL, unless of course you have a wealthy backer.
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| Quote ="Agent XIII"Yes this was my first post but I was under the impression this was a forum. I have been a season ticket holder, shareholder and supporter since 1970. The reason I felt the need to post was because I was fed up of reading self righteous members who feel they know best and don't take criticism of their views too well.
I suppose if you read the usual suspects tonight's defeat is down to either, Fox, Cockayne, washbrook or all three depending on their personal dislikes. We are in trouble but I still feel some of you are responsible for making the situation worse and forcing the chairman's hand to make what I felt was an ill conceived and far too detailed statement just to placate some of you. If you look at the other clubs forum they have supporters making criticisms but no club felt the need to make a statement.'" can't believe I'm reading this
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| Quote ="snowie"icon_eek.gif can't believe I'm reading this'"
he does have a point though snowie
the club need big investment, not supporters digging deep.
it was hardly a dragons den speech was it
on reading it..................... would you invest??
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| Quote ="chapster"he does have a point though snowie
the club need big investment, not supporter digging deep.
it was hardly a dragons den speaach was it
on reading it..................... would you invest??
hope your good bye the way'"
if I was a Ken Davy then maybe yes.
you can't blame all this on the supporters on this forum, bet we don't even cover half the paying public its no difference to pub talk
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| Quote ="snowie"if I was a Ken Davy then maybe yes.
you can't blame all this on the supporters on this forum, bet we don't even cover half the paying public its no difference to pub talk'"
actually i blame the "pub talk", in a way, theres too many wakefield, "followers" and not enough that go to games, wish i knew the answer, but in honesty i dont, in short we are a small club without a premiership footy club or a suger daddy and in todays sporting climate that means we win fk all and go bankrupt every few years!!!
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