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| im sure there is but id like you to point out what weve got different
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| Quote ="try scorer"what youl get with tom is fearless take up of the ball if thats not good enough fair enough'"
I'd be interested to hear you're knowledge of this player, from say under 6 to present day.
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| no knowledge at all el rey, just seen him in our academy all last season and like i say what you see is what you get ahard worker plenty off bottle and a tough tackler wether thats good enough for superleague i dont know
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| Quote ="El Rey"I'd be interested to hear you're knowledge of this player, from say under 6 to present day.'"
Wow what relevance would his performances in under 8 rugby have - if that was a guide we wouldnt have signed gareth ellis
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| Didnāt take much notice of Tom until he left the Bradford academy and came to us , the issue people I spoke to (supporters) focussed on how tall he is , if that was a reason for not (was told by a friend of his at a Dewsbury game, Wakefield had retained his registration) retaining him, then such as Chris Anakin as blown that out of the water. I am sure that the way our props play ( run in straight lines) Tom would have been a crowd pleaser by now
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| With Mariano going and now Mellars gone on loan (we have seen the light on that one), what has happened to Jon Molloy?
We signed him 4 months ago, and TBH has hardly featured. I didn't rate him that much. Is it one more player on the salary cap we are paying for. If we end up getting shut, we will just have more payments to make, like with IJ recently. I did not see the point in signing this player at all.
Also I don't know if this is just a rumour, but I heard the other day that JE/ AG have pressured Agar in the past to pick certain players because of the size of their contract regardless if they are any good or not. If this is the case, then how can Agar, pick what he thinks is the best 17 available to him if these two interfere on selection.
I agree that they want their marquee players to play, but not if those aren't pulling their weight, and there is maybe a fringe player busting a gut to get in, no wonder we do lose some good home based players
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| By my reckoning there's only Wilkes, Fox and Lauitiiti of the pre Agar signings who are regulars. All the others have been shipped out, either permanently or on loan.
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| Quote ="Wandering Wildcat"With Mariano going and now Mellars gone on loan (we have seen the light on that one), what has happened to Jon Molloy?
We signed him 4 months ago, and TBH has hardly featured. I didn't rate him that much. Is it one more player on the salary cap we are paying for. If we end up getting shut, we will just have more payments to make, like with IJ recently. I did not see the point in signing this player at all.
Also I don't know if this is just a rumour, but I heard the other day that JE/ AG have pressured Agar in the past to pick certain players because of the size of their contract regardless if they are any good or not. If this is the case, then how can Agar, pick what he thinks is the best 17 available to him if these two interfere on selection.
I agree that they want their marquee players to play, but not if those aren't pulling their weight, and there is maybe a fringe player busting a gut to get in, no wonder we do lose some good home based players'"
Absolute rubbish. Not one person in the board room has any influence on team selection whatsoever
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| Quote ="Wandering Wildcat"Also I don't know if this is just a rumour, but I heard the other day that JE/ AG have pressured Agar in the past to pick certain players because of the size of their contract regardless if they are any good or not. If this is the case, then how can Agar, pick what he thinks is the best 17 available to him if these two interfere on selection.'"
There are so many ways to rubbish that statement, but just for starters, what difference would it make to the BoD if a more highly paid player is selected over a lower paid one?
There are rumours, then there's just ballcocks - this, I would suggest, falls firmly into the latter category.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"By my reckoning there's only Wilkes, Fox and Lauitiiti of the pre Agar signings who are regulars. All the others have been shipped out, either permanently or on loan.'"
Wilkes will be next out the door.
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| Quote ="El Rey"Wilkes will be next out the door.'"
I think we all know that.
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| daddy cool was quick to rubbish wandering wildcats second part of his post ,but if he knows so much id also like to know the answer to the first part, whats happened to jon molloy ,played about 30 mins in three or four games ,then hes out on loan at Dewsbury plays a game , can you confirm daddy is he injured if so I wonder if the dr at Salford knew what he was doing to tear up his contract for failing a medical or was the real reason that he and mr noble like a few on here didn't rate him
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"I think we all know that.
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RA picks him just about every game though, so I don't really understand if he is to depart. I like Ollie, I think he is 100% Wakefield and works hard for us. Oh I know he has his moments but he is a solid hardworking prop the likes of which all teams need. I will be sorry if he goes.
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| What's the problem. Molloy is a member of the squad. Players are in front of him.
Is it a slow day for things to moan about or something?
I heard Daddy Cool only did one cartwheel last time out because he is on a really big contract and Elston is forcing him to do more while he also fell out with Agar because he got in the way once when they all ran out.
Clearly Agar has his favourites and wants Bullboy instead but there was a total stand up row about it in the board room and a potential big sponsor is threatening never to put money in if Daddy Cool continues to only do one cartwheel.
Apparently this is also why Mariano is leaving because he was caught hiding in the suit rather than doing sprints at training....
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| Quote ="sandaltrinityfan"RA picks him just about every game though, so I don't really understand if he is to depart. I like Ollie, I think he is 100% Wakefield and works hard for us. Oh I know he has his moments but he is a solid hardworking prop the likes of which all teams need. I will be sorry if he goes.'"
He was dropped at Magic Weekend against Castleford for Tautai, his contract is up and tbh I want him to atleast have another year as hes been playing well.
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| Quote ="try scorer"daddy cool was quick to rubbish wandering wildcats second part of his post ,but if he knows so much id also like to know the answer to the first part, whats happened to jon molloy ,played about 30 mins in three or four games ,then hes out on loan at Dewsbury plays a game , can you confirm daddy is he injured if so I wonder if the dr at Salford knew what he was doing to tear up his contract for failing a medical or was the real reason that he and mr noble like a few on here didn't rate him'"
Think he had a thorough medical at Salford and not at Wakefield.
Wakey signed him until end of 2014 doesn't seem to be up to Super League standard and sent out to Dewsbury to improve his fitness by playing one game? Sounds like serious injury or other issues to me,Agar should comment.
Poor signing IMHO even if he did come cheap. Any further squad trimming and he must be top of list surely.
As for Wilkes he deserves another 1 year contract, that try against Widnes was outstanding and he's been great at prop.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Think he had a thorough medical at Salford and not at Wakefield.
Wakey signed him until end of 2014
doesn't seem to be up to Super League standard and hasn't even been sent out to Doncaster to improve his fitness. He doesn't seem to get a look in to the 19 every week.
Poor signing IMHO even if he did come cheap. Any further squad trimming and he must be top of list surely.
As for Wilkes he deserves another 1 year contract, that try against Widnes was outstanding and he's been great at prop.'"
And covering at Second Row when needed.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Think he had a thorough medical at Salford and not at Wakefield.
Wakey signed him until end of 2014
doesn't seem to be up to Super League standard and sent out to Dewsbury to improve his fitness by playing one game? Sounds like serious injury or other issues to me,Agar should comment.
Poor signing IMHO even if he did come cheap. Any further squad trimming and he must be top of list surely.
As for Wilkes he deserves another 1 year contract, that try against Widnes was outstanding and he's been great at prop.'"
As always with things like this, it all depends how much he wants and whether we've got someone better to replace. I thought he was pretty ordinary for the first half of the season tbh but has definitely been in good form of late & had some good games for us.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"As for Wilkes he deserves another 1 year contract, that try against Widnes was outstanding and he's been great at prop.'"
Does the player have any say in it? What if he doesn't want another year?
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| thought the question about molloy was pretty much ok , lost all respect for you poptart thought your pathetic attempt at comedy just shows what a club crawler you are im a supporter of the team but if i think something dosent benefit the team i thought this forum was a way to express your opinion express yours mate don't try and make me look silly iasure you it wont work
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| Quote ="try scorer"daddy cool was quick to rubbish wandering wildcats second part of his post ,but if he knows so much id also like to know the answer to the first part, whats happened to jon molloy ,played about 30 mins in three or four games ,then hes out on loan at Dewsbury plays a game , can you confirm daddy is he injured if so I wonder if the dr at Salford knew what he was doing to tear up his contract for failing a medical or was the real reason that he and mr noble like a few on here didn't rate him'"
I have no idea why he's there. I haven't asked! But seen as he's a second rower who would you like him in front of out of Danny, Ali, frankie or tautai?
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| Quote ="Wandering Wildcat"With Mariano going and now Mellars gone on loan (we have seen the light on that one), what has happened to Jon Molloy?
We signed him 4 months ago, and TBH has hardly featured. I didn't rate him that much. Is it one more player on the salary cap we are paying for. If we end up getting shut, we will just have more payments to make, like with IJ recently. I did not see the point in signing this player at all.
Also I don't know if this is just a rumour, but I heard the other day that JE/ AG have pressured Agar in the past to pick certain players because of the size of their contract regardless if they are any good or not. If this is the case, then how can Agar, pick what he thinks is the best 17 available to him if these two interfere on selection.
I agree that they want their marquee players to play, but not if those aren't pulling their weight, and there is maybe a fringe player busting a gut to get in, no wonder we do lose some good home based players'"
I would also say it's not that hard to rubbish something as complete ballcocks as was suggested! We aren't hull fc and no board member has ever attempted to influence team selection. End of.
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| if you cant decipher from my post that I don't think molloy should have been signed then I give up tell me your only pretending to be thick
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| That is your prerogative to think that Molloy shouldn't have been signed. It's oh so easy being a keyboard coach. Sometimes you take a chance with signing players. Some work some don't. For every molloy there will be an Aiton. Nobody had heard of him before RA brought him over. It's a lot easier with hindsight.
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| I would also add that do you honestly think the board puts their own hard earned cash in to deliberately waste it on signings. We are not a Wigan! We don't get the pick of players. Hence we have to gamble somewhat more trying to unearth players that work for us that might not have worked for other teams. Kyle amor and Danny Kirmond to a certain extent, being prime examples
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