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| Quote ="BIGAL1"When do we sell Walshaw and any other talent we have.'"
I know your as passionate as anyone over young players developing and getting a first team shirt, but you know as well as anyone we are not in any kind of position to keep anyone, when the big clubs wave the cheque book.
Disappointing but reality mate I'm afraid.
We have to make this club great again to be in that position.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"I know your as passionate as anyone over young players developing and getting a first team shirt, but you know as well as anyone we are not in any kind of position to keep anyone, when the big clubs wave the cheque book.
Disappointing but reality mate I'm afraid.
We have to make this club great again to be in that position.'"
Fair point, until we are competing with the lokes of Huddersfield we will struggle to keep players.
I understand that the departure of Murphy will give Luke Walshaw more opportunities to develop and if he does then the trick will be holding on to him. Continuous improvement is what we need to see and I'm happy with the way the squad is coming together.
Now need to see a couple of half backs and a prop.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"When do we sell Walshaw and any other talent we have.'"
If they want to go though what do we do? Keep an unmotivated player for an extra year and then lose him for nothing or get the best deal for the club. I'd have loved him to stay but it wasn't an option by the sounds and the deal is a good one so hopefully our next generation can come through and fill the void.
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| I don't believe AM wanted to leave this club untill he discovered he was been offered in a deal.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"I don't believe AM wanted to leave this club untill he discovered he was been offered in a deal.'"
Which doesn't stack up with what the Hudds guy says in the press statement, which in itself is an unusual thing to say if it isn't true.
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| i thought we could have moved on from a selling club he had a contract if that matters how many 2nd rowers do we want if the players offerd were in positions we were thin in then think about it nothing changes does it we give into uncle ken
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"I don't believe AM wanted to leave this club untill he discovered he was been offered in a deal.'"
Doesn't sound that way to me, it looks like what it does, that he stayed to see this season out after the approach by Hudds when we were in Administration and it was probably always on the cards he was going,once Hudds made their offer known. I think it's clear we didn't want to let him leave and could have made him stay but if a player wants away, let them.
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"Fair point, until we are competing with the lokes of Huddersfield we will struggle to keep players.
I understand that the departure of Murphy will give Luke Walshaw more opportunities to develop and if he does then the trick will be holding on to him. Continuous improvement is what we need to see and I'm happy with the way the squad is coming together.
Now need to see a couple of half backs and a prop.'"
Agreed, I 100% believe we are heading in the right direction, and when NM comes to fruition that will be a significant step forward, but until then we need to keep shuffling forward and continue to do all the little things right.
We will get there, and it will take some time, but the early signs are there.
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| I believe we have got a good deal. We have got some cash and 2 players who will be in our team week in week out in exchange for one player who is a decent player but people overrate just because he is a local lad.
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| People question Smurph loyalty but yet stayed with us when he could have and shouldve gone to shudds then. So now we are on the up everything going in right direction then chooses to jump ship. Come off it do you people have tinted glasses on??? Murph may not be like Ellis a world beater but when will we draw the line in the sand like Al says Walshaw will be next. Smurph the best academy product in the first team when i spoke to him he honestly said if Wakey move forward as a club he will stay with us as he made the point he could have gone and hes a wakey lad. Smurph stuck it out and got battered every week last season. We have not got the better deal folks as we are still a selling club. Kirmond you seem to think will be first name on the team sheet ... Are you people for real seriously and Raleigh is a average injury prone prop
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| Lets pay money to make our young lads top RL players then get rid at the first opportunity yeah great deal folks. Go on call me a plank if you want but its the truth ...................................
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"I don't believe AM wanted to leave this club untill he discovered he was been offered in a deal.'" NAIL ON THE HEAD MY FRIEND. that is exactly what happened. him and along with another 8 players we are trying to offload at the moment. sorry 6 now, murph has gone and tommy lee signed yesterday.i dont think we are getting the best deal at all. danny is ok, yet another 2nd rower. raleigh really suspect with injuries and nowhere near the size we need in the front row. i imagine someone at hudds will be happy with the deal. off loading these 2 for a great young british prospect. if we offload higgins as i am reliably informed we are trying to do even though he has got another year on his contract and leeds call back kyle, we will be left with a laughable front row. for god's sake, we need some power, some grunt and some aggression up front. there is no substitute for that in the front row. fair enough, free up some space, bring in the kiwi scrum half and the aussie stand off and stick sam back in there at hooker but give them something to play behind
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"[size=150=#FF0040
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You might as well, seeing as how you still haven't sussed out what it's for.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"I don't believe AM wanted to leave this club untill he discovered he was been offered in a deal.'"
So why did he accept the car?
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| Quote ="frogcat"NAIL ON THE HEAD MY FRIEND. that is exactly what happened. him and along with another 8 players we are trying to offload at the moment. sorry 6 now, murph has gone and tommy lee signed yesterday.i dont think we are getting the best deal at all. danny is ok, yet another 2nd rower. raleigh really suspect with injuries and nowhere near the size we need in the front row. i imagine someone at hudds will be happy with the deal. off loading these 2 for a great young british prospect. if we offload higgins as i am reliably informed we are trying to do even though he has got another year on his contract and leeds call back kyle, we will be left with a laughable front row. for god's sake, we need some power, some grunt and some aggression up front. there is no substitute for that in the front row. fair enough, free up some space, bring in the kiwi scrum half and the aussie stand off and stick sam back in there at hooker but give them something to play behind'"
Go on then, name names. Higgins and 5 more? Who? Hyde and Penny maybe, who else?
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| Agar better be careful who he offloads, if some arew homegrown players that might not go down so well with fans. Im guessing Korki, Penny, Morrison,, Hyde and Moore
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Go on call me a plank if you want but its the truth ...................................'" you got it bang right for once.
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| Jeez you guys will argue over anything.
If Murphy wants to Ho then so be it.
I quite like the way the team is shaping up. Few more significant signings to go but good so far.
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| Murphy's good, but not going to be an international anytime soon if ever. He wanted to leave, so be it. I don't see this as the massive issue others are making it into.
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| Me neither.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Murphy's good, but not going to be an international anytime soon if ever. He wanted to leave, so be it. I don't see this as the massive issue others are making it into.'"
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| Quote ="the blind ref"Obviously he's not quite the guy we thought he was whilst in Admin then. Not RW&B through and through!'"
what staying on and playing for a pittance compared to what he was offered from several other clubs , yeah burn that darn murphy . you have little concept of real/fantasy world
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"At last someone with a brain .... Thank YOU'"
is this an admission of your absence of the old grey matter then?
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Murphy wanted to go. We got the best deal possible. We have a young Walshaw who will relish some gametime this year.'"
This is my first post and i will be stating further facts later.
I felt i had to let people know the TRUE story instead of what Elston is stating about trying to keep him. (Total Rubbish - Thats how clubs work make it look like the player has no loyalty even though aaron proved last season he was loyal to the club)
Aaron did NOT want to go he was forced so the club could get a fee.Aaron made it 100% clear he wanted to stay and based on 2 new centres coming in, it was seen as a good bit of business by the club, whilst also getting 2 forwards as part of the deal. Rather than being honest they made it look like it was aaron's wish - It wasnt ! He is going against his wishes.
Tommy Lee has gone to Huddersfield on Agar's insistance because of issues with him at Hull.....and again another huddersfield cast off (Wood) to replace him too. Its a great move for Tommy as he clearly was not going to get a chance with agar based on the past so joining a top 6 club is a bonus for him.
Tongia wont be staying........unbelievably the people running the club could not see his potential last season and failed to offer him a contract prior to other clubs being alerted so he is gone, morro on his way out another cost cutting exercise replced by Hull reject. compare morro to his replacement......what a joke.
Why are the club getting rid of better players and replacing them with Giants cast off's ? its laughable.
Andrew Glover.....great bloke, heart in the club but being advised by the wrong people.
and one last quote based on the above post........under Agar no youngsters will get any gametime next season thats how it is with him. welcome to the Agar Era.......Hull FC cant believe their good fortune.
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