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| Quote ="Roonaldo6"But what if you went to a job and had to screw something in and instead of picking the slim nice fit screwdriver, you constantly pick the fat one that doesnt fit ?
And what if it took you 12 hours to do a job that actually should only take 4, if you came back to the office and said, Im going to have to make some changes to this so it gets better, but then proceed to do the same job somewhere else in the same style with the same tools (including the fat screwdriver) and it taking you 12 hours again.'"
I'd pay £20 to watch that! I'm currently watching paint dry.
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| Quote ="Lupset_Airport"I'd pay £20 to watch that! I'm currently watching paint dry.'"
I'm sure there's plenty on here would pay £20 to see you do one
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| Quote ="dickie mint"I'm sure there's plenty on here would pay £20 to see you do one
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"To be fair I'm sure glover said his aim was to make the club self sustaining. There has been plenty off field development recent months to make this a realistic goal I'n the near future.
The playing side has seen little investment but that is fine for me.
We are I'n a transition period with an eye on the end of July.
I get cheesed off like anybody else when our team collapses but it seems we are setting ourselves up well for the future. That future IMHO will involve a shake up of the playing side and set-up.'"
So why are we letting our best juniors slip away and why aren't we signing young players who are the best in their age group?
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| Whos slipped away? Have you heard some other youngsters are on their way? If we go back to the meeting AG and JE said it would take time and its all part of a ten year plan, let the scheme get going and give it a chance before we start turning on our new owners. If in say three yeas time we are signing average juniors and the odd gem who we develop then let go then yes thats the time to start making noises. Lets give it a chance for now, bloody hell we haven't even had the first prize draw yet!
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"Saints are a good side but not a big club, if we had have had the success saints have had in the last 20 years we would be better supported and a bigger club'"
You must be WUM or clearly deluded. I doubt even a Wigan fan would say we ain't a big club. The fact that possibly the largest club in the RL world in Wigan regard us as their biggest rivals says it all.
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| Quote ="RuddyScoosers"You must be WUM or clearly deluded. I doubt even a Wigan fan would say we ain't a big club. The fact that possibly the largest club in the RL world in Wigan regard us as their biggest rivals says it all.'"
How am I deluded just because people say saints aren't a big club. You are a good side based in a small town but not a big club. If we had the constant success saints have we would be getting better crowds, maybe when you move into your new stadium it will move you up a level like it will with us. In my opinion there are only 3 big clubs in RL Wigan Leeds & hull fc why are you bigger than these?
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"How am I deluded just because people say saints aren't a big club. You are a good side based in a small town but not a big club. If we had the constant success saints have we would be getting better crowds, maybe when you move into your new stadium it will move you up a level like it will with us. In my opinion there are only 3 big clubs in RL Wigan Leeds & hull fc why are you bigger than these?'"
You say Hull is a big club when Saints is not, yet how many grand finals and challenge cup finals have saints won? Just saying.
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| Quote ="Willzay"You say Hull is a big club when Saints is not, yet how many grand finals and challenge cup finals have saints won? Just saying.'"
Exactly and they are still a bigger club than saints just imaging the support hull would get if they won something. I'm not say saints aren't a good successful club far from it there are the most successfull club of the last 15 years. In my opinion just because you are successful on the pitch it doesn't neccesseraily make you a big club.
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| Quote ="The Clan"So why are we letting our best juniors slip away and why aren't we signing young players who are the best in their age group?'"
Could it be that Mr Kear does not listen to what Tony Drury tells him?
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| Quote ="chissitt"Could it be that Mr Kear does not listen to what Tony Drury tells him?'"
I wonder who he was listening to when he decided to sign semi, maybe just those noises inside his head again.
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| Kear, sanctuary,broadbent out! Heard a few roumers morrison unhappy rinaldi signed for london n kear upset ag won't discuss his contract [ok john il pay you superleague wages when we could be in nf No seriously the rugby we play is so predictable it hardly warrants a game plan to face us sorry john turn the light off on your way out.
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| it's a measure of how poor our squad is that people think losing rinaldi is a blow. truth be told he's way below average, but sadly he looks pretty good in our squad.
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| Quote ="TALLYWACKER"Kear, sanctuary,broadbent out! Heard a few roumers morrison unhappy rinaldi signed for london n [ukear upset ag won't discuss his contract[/u [ok john il pay you superleague wages when we could be in nf No seriously the rugby we play is so predictable it hardly warrants a game plan to face us sorry john turn the light off on your way out.'"
If true, then good for AG. Bit hyprocritical of Kear to be annoyed about it given he has been sniffing around any available job that comes up. Interesting as well that despite apparently putting his hat in the ring for numerous jobs, he hasn't actually suceeded in getting any of them (other than the Catalans one although bet they are relieved we held out for compensation now).
Clearly he isnt held in such high regard by the managers of other clubs as he is in some quarters on here
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"If true, then good for AG. Bit hyprocritical of Kear to be annoyed about it given he has been sniffing around any available job that comes up. Interesting as well that despite apparently putting his hat in the ring for numerous jobs, he hasn't actually suceeded in getting any of them (other than the Catalans one although bet they are relieved we held out for compensation now).
Clearly he isnt held in such high regard by the managers of other clubs as he is in some quarters on here'"
Clearly! Why clearly.
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| Quote ="vastman"Clearly! Why clearly.'"
Ok you got me there Vastman. I should have said IMO, which is based on the fact that with his contract running out at the end of this season and the financial position we were in previously, we would probably have let him leave with little or no compensation.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Ok you got me there Vastman. I should have said IMO, which is based on the fact that with his contract running out at the end of this season and the financial position we were in previously, we would probably have let him leave with little or no compensation.'"
I think Kear is very highly rated in the game and was highly rated on here for many years. His time may have come at BV but he won't struggle to find another club IMO.
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| Quote ="vastman"I think Kear is very highly rated in the game and was highly rated on here for many years. His time may have come at BV but he won't struggle to find another club IMO.'"
Persoanlly I think he will be the London clubs next coach.
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"How am I deluded just because people say saints aren't a big club. You are a good side based in a small town but not a big club. If we had the constant success saints have we would be getting better crowds, maybe when you move into your new stadium it will move you up a level like it will with us. In my opinion there are only 3 big clubs in RL Wigan Leeds & hull fc why are you bigger than these?'"
When did i say we were the biggest club in the country? If you put your specs on and read my previous post properly i commented that Wigan were possibly 'the biggest club in the world of RL'.
Leeds,despite getting bigger crowds have won less trophies than Saints and Hull FC don't come close in the silverware stakes either. In fact Hull's gates weren't much different to ours til they got their new stadium.
Give me success over crowds anyday.
I doubt there is many in RL who would agree with you that we ain't a big club club. St Helens is one of the most famous clubs in the world Rugby League.
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| Quote ="RuddyScoosers"When did i say we were the biggest club in the country? If you put your specs on and read my previous post properly i commented that Wigan were possibly 'the biggest club in the world of RL'.
Leeds,despite getting bigger crowds have won less trophies than Saints and Hull FC don't come close in the silverware stakes either. In fact Hull's gates weren't much different to ours til they got their new stadium.
Give me success over crowds anyday.
I doubt there is many in RL who would agree with you that we ain't a big club club. St Helens is one of the most famous clubs in the world Rugby League.'"
I don't think this thread is about St's standing in the world of RL.
Can you not find somewhere else to big that up? (big is not a typo btw)
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| Quote ="Pilchard"I don't think this thread is about St's standing in the world of RL.
Can you not find somewhere else to big that up? (big is not a typo btw)'"
Fair play fella. Just responding to what your fellow fan said.
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| Quote ="vastman"I've defended Kear but that's three big losses in a row, being sensible I could live with the lack of attacking grace if we were continuing to grind out wins or keep the scores respectable. That's now far from the case, when you ship 70 from an average HKR team then you have lost the dressing room and your days are numbered - very sad as failure is not something to rejoice.
Why play Hickey, ffs it's suicidal.
Finally although it's the job of the Coach to fall on his sword a number of players need to question themselves. Also the new regime who seem to be getting away with it, ZERO investment in the squad and boy it shows.
[uSadly it's time to search for a new coach [/u- suggestions on a post card.
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