The 'goody goody brigade' being those that disagree with you regarding Blaymire I presume?
He seems to have made a pretty good fist of being a Super League full back over the years and even his harshest critics didn't get on his back during his first couple of seasons most considering him and Peter Fox, amongst others, as great finds by Kear. For me Blaymire is as solid a full back as we have had since Martyn Holland. He scores a fair amount of tries and his defence is tested more than most full backs in the league and he isn't often found wanting.

I disagree that Vivers is a better fulback and i would not put Smurph ahead of him either.

Wildcatowl. I don't agree that Blaymire doesn't tackle on the line. I think his defensive qualities are good. That said he failed to make an important line tackle on a player last week with a player on him and no momentum when he was stood infron of him on the line. A costly mistake but one I haven't seen as a regular occurrence in blaymires game.

I suggest taking more water with it if you are seriously putting blaymire and peter fox in the same breath. I think i'm right in saying fox has played for england, has blaymire? and will he ever? .....NO!
I don't agree he has made a good fist of it, he has just seamed to get the No1 shirt whatever. I do agree he is a kear find, but a good one? No! He is what we call in crown green bowling circles( no doubt that will be mocked) "the bus driver".
Given a the chances blaymire has had both murph and vivers WOULD make better fullbacks.

You might actually want to read what I wrote and then respond to it!


I thought you said they were better full backs? Not sure what these massive flaws are you are seeing in Blaymire's game.

The ones that 90% of our support see week in week out.

Who's this 90% you speak of.

Really? That's not the feeling I get. I can just about get my head around the 'lazy' running it back in argument but aside from that I can see little to complain about with his game. At Wakey and especially this season full back is a predominantly defensive position and this is Blaymires strongest area solid under the high ball, good tackler and decent positional sense. He has also scored a fair amount of tries for a player who is not thought to have much of an attacking game.

I don't profess to know all their names. But, I'm sorry i refuse to believe, and won't be convinced, that blaymire is even a "decent" fullback. lets be fair even the administrators couldn't get rid of him! And answer me this, why have we got more fullbacks at the club if blaymire is so good.

ah hah one thing we agree on, I do have a sneaky fiver on him scoring the first try.

You know you're dealing with someone who has lost the argument when the resort/claim to be speaking for the majority - it's sad really.

Makes you wonder where they found the time to poll everyone at the match!

The 90% comment is class ha.

72 % of fans think we should sign Jamie benn and pair him with smith in halfs

I'm in the 90%. I don't rate Blaymire. Never have.

Why would it be churlish to suggest things are greatly improved under AG, would it be the push to increase attendances? the push to bring in money from the now fully occupied boxes? The push to increase memberships? the push to increase merchandise sales? The flow of information that now comes out of the club? The increase in proffesionality now in the club, the cutting adrift of the deadwood, the extra income now being generated from food and drink sales and improvement in the supporters bars and subsequent marketing of these facilities?
None of these things would have happened under TR, so yes I think it's a vast improvement.
If you don't that's fine.

Fair enough but that leaves another 4000+ fans who can't be spoken for by one fan.

I agree, so far imo there has been a vast improvement and at the end of the day it's all these things that turn a club from being corner shop to professionally run.

Like I've said before,sick of reading criticism of wacky players from wacky supporters ,that old chinese proverb,you s..g with p..k you've got.together we are stronger.

Yeah, that old chinese proverb has helped me though some hard times in life too.

Wacky.

FFS....

Blaymire is a solid fullback who's primary fault is his slow return of kicks.

If he returned kicks ala Billy Slater he wouldn't be at Wakefield.

And to think '90%' of supporters were lamenting his potential loss after his first season at the club. Perhaps they should get Mark Field back to cut Blaymire some slack.

Read my post again or that part of it, you should see you misread the post as I actually say the opposite.

For heavens sake there is no 90%, what part of that don't you understand

I agree that the only flaw in Blaymires game is his kick return and playing for us, particularly this season, I would prefer to have someone like Blaymire with his ability to read the game and be generally solid defensively.

IMO Veivers is nowhere near to proving he his a better fullback than Blaymire, given he has only played 1 and a half to 2 games in the first team in that position.

We have more pressing issues with the threequarter line, like who to play on the wing given Penny's lack of rugby nouse and Johnson's off field problems. This is where Murphy can come back in, either on the wing or in the centres with George back on the wing.

Apologies, mid read the "churlish bit", however the improvements are still vast, "relatively well" is underplaying it some what.
I've also read your post and have re read and am not sure what more is to be gleaned by the rest of it.
The long term "running down" of the club, will not be reversed over night, but by doing the small things right we are moving in the right direction..
All these things would never have happened under TR, so I restate, a vast improvement.

Well it's your opinion, but it's not one shared by myself and a few big hitters I know. They consider the changes so far as cosmetic and something anyone could do. One person said he sell Rugby like he's sells conservatories. I'm not sure what that meant exactly and was certainly a bit snobbish for me but the inference was that he's out of his depth.

I know it's not the latest fashion to be an AG critic and I'm not. The jury is still out for me. I just have a nagging feeling that in 12 month time there will be a lot of unhappy bunnies on this forum, who's expectation were not met.

Ted gave us 17 years, some very bad, some OK and a few good ones. It's fair to judge him on those 17 years, minus the slanderous and unfounded rumours that masquerade as fact on here. His was ultimately a failed management, though it could be argued one of dogged resistance to the inevitable - your choice.

Your assertion as regards improvements under Ted is way off the mark IMO. There were a number of times the club made leaps forward every bit the equal of AG so far. In the last 10 years the boxes were added, the shop was added, crush barriers added, the learning centre, proper toilets, bars etc. Just remember back to 2000 when non of the above existed. On field, promotion to SL, a proper Academy set up, a franchise win, two top 6 finished and a CCup semi final. I'n not suggesting the above represents a golden age, but it was not without it's high points. There are short memories here and an element of throwing the baby out with the bath water and all in favour of the new kid in town.

By contrast AG has not done 17 month yet let alone years and has invested a few tins of paint and some cheap tickets. It's to early IMO to be positive or negative but the fact is no serious investment has taken place. This is compounded by the fact that the team is way below the cap so the club is already running cheaply.

I'm not attacking him, merely pointing out the facts as we the public know them. It's to early to say IMHO.

My irony meter is reading off the scale; the negativity you portray here and in your lengthy post about AG on another thread, far outweights that of the few people who've had a pop at Gleeson after his dodgy performance last week. Your brand of negativity is significantly more damaging, incidentally, than bagging a player.

It strikes me that you're not happy unless you're swimming against the tide.