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| Quote ="The Clan"I'm not sure that there are many you would want rid of (Mopsy apart) most do a good job, the likes of Davide Longo, Jimme Elston, Sarah Robinson, the girls in the shop, Francis Stephenson, Steve Dutton etc..
there may be family mambers who don't want to stay on afterwards but if they did then you have to take into account their performance in any given role, they may be (like it or not) the best person for the job.'"
sorry didnt mean my original post on this point to become fodder for the cull brigade.
the club does however need a new finance structure and a more proactive business manager, thats obvious otherwise we would not be here now in the position we are in.
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| Quote ="Roonaldo6"Apologies but he wouldnt be on my good job list. Rugby player who put on a suit and tie and started talking b*llocks off a cue card... similar to Steve Ferres.'"
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| 0.8% more like! Paul Johnson looks a good signing on Sundays performance though could have unearthed a gem there, think him Korki and King are really going to have to earn their money this year, looks like it'll just be one prop on the bench! Quote ="Roonaldo6"Quote ="Uptoncat"£500k would enable you to buy the club outright'"
Could we then just sell off the playing squad to recoup our cash.
Sorry, I'll amend... can we just sell off the playing squad to recoup about 8% of our cash ?'"
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"0.8% more like! Paul Johnson looks a good signing on Sundays performance though could have unearthed a gem there, think him Korki and King are really going to have to earn their money this year, looks like it'll just be one prop on the bench!'"
1 prop 2 hookers and a full back!
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| If the money is needed by the end of the month - when and where are the club going to advertise the offer?
Every day that goes by from now is a day less to raise the necessary funds.
Oh and can anyone "in the know" answer my question re who we owe the money to and why they want it back by the end of the month?
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| Quote ="MR BROWN"I dont give a dam about the books i am a wakey fan i put my money where my mouth is tomorrow £1000 and a bit more if nessacery and i do not want to pick and chose who runs the club and as far as ted is concerned i would say he has put more in to trin than any of them have or will ever do and who ever gets us out of this mess i would be grateful to help.'"
look mate, i value your opinions and loyalty but dont ever think you have the nerve to question mine, i have done home and away every bloody week for 20 years and never ever thought we would get to this shambles, and yes in some areas i think i could and would do better.
not giving a damn about the books is beyond stupidity and maybe you, more than some others should be asking questions, i have no vested interest in any financial way if the club survives or falls this year, you i believe may do!
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| Obviously I dont know the full ins and outs of this give a grand deal the club are trying to get going, I can only go on what I have read on here but it does seem a very poor deal for the people who pay up in my eyes.
The board have said that 2 parties were very interested but once they had given the books a very good inspection they thought better of it. But now they are coming to the fans as what looks to be a last resort and more or less saying if you dont stump up now for the team you love it could be down to you when the team is no more. Not only do they want your money with what will probbably be no return at all but if you asked to look at the books before putting in your hard earned what do you think the answer would be?.
And on one final point how much of a say do you think your grand would get you, I dare say that if this get rich quick scheme does come off and your current board does step down its replacment has already been selected from current share holders.
Please dont take this post as a cas fan trolling, I just think your board wants to get out now before the brown stuff really hits the fan in a few months time and they see the fans as an easy target for their great escape.
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| Quote ="chapster"look mate, i value your opinions and loyalty but dont ever think you have the nerve to question mine, i have done home and away every bloody week for 20 years and never ever thought we would get to this shambles, and yes in some areas i think i could and would do better.
not giving a damn about the books is beyond stupidity and maybe you, more than some others should be asking questions, i have no vested interest in any financial way if the club survives or falls this year, you i believe may do!'"
And after you've read and studied the books you'd still come to the same conclusion - is WTRLFC worth £1k to me, and can I afford it? If you can't afford it, then it's a dead question, if you can, and you value the game of RL in Wakey, then do you value it enough to part with £1k - spread over 3 years - to keep the name of Wakefield Trinity alive in Wakey. It's not a business decision, if it is then you probably wouldn't do it, it's an emotional / supportive one.
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| Quote ="tigerman1"Obviously I dont know the full ins and outs of this give a grand deal the club are trying to get going, I can only go on what I have read on here but it does seem a very poor deal for the people who pay up in my eyes.
The board have said that 2 parties were very interested but once they had given the books a very good inspection they thought better of it. But now they are coming to the fans as what looks to be a last resort and more or less saying if you dont stump up now for the team you love it could be down to you when the team is no more. Not only do they want your money with what will probbably be no return at all but if you asked to look at the books before putting in your hard earned what do you think the answer would be?.
And on one final point how much of a say do you think your grand would get you, I dare say that if this get rich quick scheme does come off and your current board does step down its replacment has already been selected from current share holders.
Please dont take this post as a cas fan trolling, I just think your board wants to get out now before the brown stuff really hits the fan in a few months time and they see the fans as an easy target for their great escape.'"
Maybe we should all get a brick for the £1000 would that be a better deal.
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| Quote ="TRB"And after you've read and studied the books you'd still come to the same conclusion - is WTRLFC worth £1k to me, and can I afford it? If you can't afford it, then it's a dead question, if you can, and you value the game of RL in Wakey, then do you value it enough to part with £1k - spread over 3 years - to keep the name of Wakefield Trinity alive in Wakey. It's not a business decision, if it is then you probably wouldn't do it, it's an emotional / supportive one.'"
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| Quote ="The Clan"Maybe we should all get a brick for the £1000 would that be a better deal.'"
Well theoretically a brick is better than nothing.
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| Quote ="TRB"And after you've read and studied the books you'd still come to the same conclusion - is WTRLFC worth £1k to me, and can I afford it? If you can't afford it, then it's a dead question, if you can, and you value the game of RL in Wakey, then do you value it enough to part with £1k - spread over 3 years - to keep the name of Wakefield Trinity alive in Wakey. It's not a business decision, if it is then you probably wouldn't do it, it's an emotional / supportive one.'"
youve praised lord ted on here millions of times let him sort it out,whats the cash for.
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Like i said mate not a trolling post, but if you did just buy a brick the board would not be saying to you that they had stuffed up and could go no further so would you like to have a go instead. I just think there is much more to all this than is being said and one thing is why the big rush for the end of this month. Also what happens if the cash is not raised, will the club need to go into addministration ?.
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| Would it be possible to set up a standing order to pay monthly over 3 years?
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i would do almost anything to promote and support this club that has given me so much, i will get involved in the new disable supporters thing and give it my best, i will eventually give a grand because i can, but if other people less fortunate than me ask me for advise as to if its a donation they are makng or an investment, i will tell them the truth, its a donation.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"youve praised lord ted on here millions of times let him sort it out,whats the cash for.'"
And you've heaped derision on just about everyone - but I've yet to see a single positive suggestion. Now's yer chance.....
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| Would the 500k keep the club going for a season based on current incomings and outgoings? Who would pay off the next tax bill that is coming regarding image rights? How big are the club's debts?
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| Quote ="tigerman1"Like i said mate not a trolling post, but if you did just buy a brick the board would not be saying to you that they had stuffed up and could go no further so would you like to have a go instead. I just think there is much more to all this than is being said and one thing is why the big rush for the end of this month. Also what happens if the cash is not raised, will the club need to go into addministration ?.'"
Not really having a go mate, just finding a bit of fun while wer'e chewing the fat.
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| Quote ="TRB"And you've heaped derision on just about everyone - but I've yet to see a single positive suggestion. Now's yer chance.....
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whatever happens we have no money, we cant sustain a super league club, we will never win anything, we cant afford top players, more debt, unless we get a sugar daddy we will just limp along with note to look forward to. go back part time and live within our means. the club is a dead loss. come on then messiah save us. I TOLD YOU SO, but you didnt believe me.
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| Quote ="chapster"Phil
i would do almost anything to promote and support this club that has given me so much, i will get involved in the new disable supporters thing and give it my best, i will eventually give a grand because i can, but if other people less fortunate than me ask me for advise as to if its a donation they are makng or an investment, i will tell them the truth, its a donation.
respect as always
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Thats a point I've made previously and I'll make it again. It is a donation but it should be more if we wish it to succeed in my opinion. Fans stumping up £1,000 need to get something for their money other than a worthless share cerificate and maybe a warm glow inside. I've suggested something along the lines of a free season ticket for say 5 years or something similar - that in itself is a bit of a gamble but at least those who cannot afford to give away a £1,000 get something for their money.
I know there are those who say what about future cash flow. For christ sake we are going to need more than 500 season ticket holders to continue to survive so we would be giving a great deal away but getting so much in the short term - maybe sufficient to guarantee survival - who knows.
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were doomed and you know it jt
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"whatever happens we have no money, we cant sustain a super league club, we will never win anything, we cant afford top players, more debt, unless we get a sugar daddy we will just limp along with note to look forward to. go back part time and live within our means. the club is a dead loss. come on then messiah save us. I TOLD YOU SO, but you didnt believe me.'"
I can agree in part with that - we have no money - and that has always been the root of the problem, but I cannot just bring myself to roll over, regardless of who said what, and so I am left with one option - Fight!
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not giving a damn about the books is beyond stupidity and maybe you, more than some others should be asking questions, i have no vested interest in any financial way if the club survives or falls this year, you i believe may do!'" Sorry mate you have got me wrong i dont question your loyatys in any way i have read your posts and it is obviose the passion you have for the club i was mearly stateing that seeing the books or who ever was running the club would not matter to me as i am sure in the end it wouldnt with you. I have no fanacial intrested in the club wat so ever and my fanaces would not be effected in any way whatever happens but i will say aging if there is anything i could do to help the situation i would gladly do.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"were doomed and you know it jt'"
I don't doubt it. They were just questions that sprung to mind.
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| Quote ="The Clan"Not really having a go mate, just finding a bit of fun while wer'e chewing the fat.'"
No problem, But do you know what happens if you don't raise the money in time. Also when people have said the current board would resign, how many are on your board and how bad are things really if they all want out. I know many of your supporters will put in a grand as would fans at most clubs were they in the same position I just think you need a hell of a lot of quetions answering before you do part with the cash.
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