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| Quote ="kingsway cat"Please elaborate as to why this is a pathetic post?
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Well not wanting to get stuck in an arguement on this, and of course you have a right to your opinion, however, the reason I said it was pathetic, is not your opinion at all, it's the way you make it personal to Tronc.
He is doing a job same as anyone else on this forum. The fact that we all enjoy watching him do it and are then disappointed when he doesn't, is of no relevence to him (though many players take pride in that).
He has decided for his own reasons that it is not the job for him. He hasn't taken money under false pretenses. He has been one of our best players this year.
You have no right (in my opinion) to make the email personal.
Quotes like
"never ever have I been so angry with the way a player has conducted himself"
"his wifes home sick bullpoop is just a front"
"The way he has masked his desire to join Brisbane behind reasons that his wife isn't settled is just pure immaturity"
and everything after this point.."not getting personal or anything but......"
are why I think the email is pathetic.
If you'd have said your opinions without making it personal towards him, then I wouldn't have even commented on the post. I am disappointed myself so would in some way agree with you, but the reasons why are nothing to do with us.
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| Dont know what's been said (not going through 6 pages) but vthe few comments I have read are to say the least ill informed. Is it not possible that the club has not fullfilled all it's promises to Shane, and his story of the wife being homesick is to save the club face??
Might not be true, but until people know all the facts they should reserve judgement on the lad.
Charlie Leono anyone??
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| Quote ="PopTart"Well not wanting to get stuck in an arguement on this, and of course you have a right to your opinion, however, the reason I said it was pathetic, is not your opinion at all, it's the way you make it personal to Tronc.
He is doing a job same as anyone else on this forum. The fact that we all enjoy watching him do it and are then disappointed when he doesn't, is of no relevence to him (though many players take pride in that).
He has decided for his own reasons that it is not the job for him. He hasn't taken money under false pretenses. He has been one of our best players this year.
You have no right (in my opinion) to make the email personal.
Quotes like
"never ever have I been so angry with the way a player has conducted himself"
"his wifes home sick bullpoop is just a front"
"The way he has masked his desire to join Brisbane behind reasons that his wife isn't settled is just pure immaturity"
and everything after this point.."not getting personal or anything but......"
are why I think the email is pathetic.
If you'd have said your opinions without making it personal towards him, then I wouldn't have even commented on the post. I am disappointed myself so would in some way agree with you, but the reasons why are nothing to do with us.'"
Well without wanting to get stuck into an arguement with you also. We'l agree to disagree, I have read the post again I can see why you have got your back up- however, the points remain the same sir. I do feel that it is kind of relevent that he has become home sick within the last two weeks, the same two weeks where the interest is shown from brisbane!- THEREFORE, I am angry with the way he has conducted himself, if he said 'at 28 there is not a better opportunity for me to join them' i would of been disappointed but not angry. Simple really, sorry if this post offends you yet again!
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| Today, my mate told me that he served a young Kiwi/Ozzie lad, who claimed he was over for a trial with Wakey?- I don't know if this bull from the guy he served but I was just wondering whether anyone knows anything else about this? My mate works at a well known sports shop on the retail park, and the guy was wanting some footy boots- It just seems abit strange that a lad trailing for a superleague team would have no boots! My mate thinks his name was Kurt or something along those lines.
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"Today, my mate told me that he served a young Kiwi/Ozzie lad, who claimed he was over for a trial with Wakey?- I don't know if this bull from the guy he served but I was just wondering whether anyone knows anything else about this? My mate works at a well known sports shop on the retail park, and the guy was wanting some footy boots- It just seems abit strange that a lad trailing for a superleague team would have no boots!
My mate thinks his name was Kurt or something along those lines.'"
I'd assume that was the lad who is already playing in the academy, Kurt Wilton I think he is called. Someone said he was originally from England, or at least his family was.
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| Kurt Wilton...............maybe he just wanted some new boots
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| Quote ="bloomers"I'd assume that was the lad who is already playing in the academy, Kurt Wilton I think he is called. Someone said he was originally from England, or at least his family was.'"
Spoil sport that had all the makings of a classic RLFANS rumour!
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| Quote ="J.T"Spoil sport that had all the makings of a classic RLFANS rumour!'"
Going on what is being alluded to on here, a better rumour would be Ted had Tronc and his family living in the new bottle bar cabin, after originally promising him Heath Hall.
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| Quote ="bloomers"Going on what is being alluded to on here, a better rumour would be Ted had Tronc and his family living in the new bottle bar cabin, after originally promising him Heath Hall.'"
More likely Ted has had him kipping on the floor of the Red Shed which he didin't mind until the fat man came back from Germany and moved in with him...
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"if he said 'at 28 there is not a better opportunity for me to join them' i would of been disappointed but not angry.'"
You are spot on there...if a player is honest and wants to go, so be it.
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| Quote ="Outwood Vic"Dont know what's been said (not going through 6 pages) but vthe few comments I have read are to say the least ill informed. Is it not possible that the club has not fullfilled all it's promises to Shane, and his story of the wife being homesick is to save the club face??
Might not be true, but until people know all the facts they should reserve judgement on the lad.
Charlie Leono anyone??'"
If it is a case of broken promises, makes you wonder what he told him. Its also a pity we can't rectify the situation and do what we said we would do and then presumeably he would stay.
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"Well without wanting to get stuck into an arguement with you also. We'l agree to disagree, I have read the post again I can see why you have got your back up- however, the points remain the same sir. I do feel that it is kind of relevent that he has become home sick within the last two weeks, the same two weeks where the interest is shown from brisbane!- THEREFORE, I am angry with the way he has conducted himself, if he said 'at 28 there is not a better opportunity for me to join them' i would of been disappointed but not angry. Simple really, sorry if this post offends you yet again!'"
Not too offended, I see your point. Let's shake hands and walk away.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"If it is a case of broken promises, makes you wonder what he told him. Its also a pity we can't rectify the situation and do what we said we would do and then presumeably he would stay.'"
Put it this way, I would of thought you can only ask for a fee for a player when you have fullfilled your contractual obligations to that player.
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| I seem to remember at the time keith mason left us i was told international transfers had been abolished, if true then surely its a case of we either let him go for nothing or we keep him? Can someone confirm about the transfer fees.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Not too offended,
I see your point. Let's shake hands and walk away.'"
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"i hope we never sign another overseas player because since Ray Bexendale came in 81 we have signed so much dross and being let down so many times its unreal I do not no now many we have had but very few were any better than British based players i could name about 12 that have being worth having'"
Here's a start,
Russell Klein
Rod Snell
Don Swanston
Ronnie Troutman
Alfie Songoro
Robert Piva
World beaters to a man
We could have got lads off Eastmoor or Normy who would have done just as well or better. In fact we did. Richard Slater and Nigel Bell to name but two.
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| Quote ="J.T"Spoil sport that had all the makings of a classic RLFANS rumour!'"
Yeah, you are right! It did seem a little bit like my mates dad's barbers florist-ish! But it wasn't meant to be like that!
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| Quote ="LyndsayGill"Here's a start,
Russell Klein
Rod Snell
Don Swanston
Ronnie Troutman
Alfie Songoro
Robert Piva
World beaters to a man
We could have got lads off Eastmoor or Normy who would have done just as well or better. In fact we did. Richard Slater and Nigel Bell to name but two.'"
Don't forget Clinton O'Brien think Gareth Gates frightened him off! Matt Sears five bottles of beer in a broken hand, or man of glass Dallas Hood all legends. Got to be the only time our entire overseas quota has been walking through the crowd selling raffle tickets!
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| Quote ="trin77"Don't forget Clinton O'Brien think Gareth Gates frightened him off! Matt Sears five bottles of beer in a broken hand, or man of glass Dallas Hood all legends. Got to be the only time our entire overseas quota has been walking through the crowd selling raffle tickets!'"
Dallas Hood. The best overseas raffle ticket seller ever recruited by a Super League side.
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| Regarding transfer fees. You must be able to get something as Sam Burgess was contracted to Bulls and Souths had to pay top whack for him so we are due money for tronc. Even if a Rugby union club wants a league player if he is under contract they still have to pay and thats a different sport. I am not chuffed he's leaving but not getting anything out of this is a bum deal.
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| Quote ="supercat"Regarding transfer fees. You must be able to get something as Sam Burgess was contracted to Bulls and Souths had to pay top whack for him so we are due money for tronc. =#FF0000Even if a Rugby union club wants a league player if he is under contract they still have to pay and thats a different sport. I am not chuffed he's leaving but not getting anything out of this is a bum deal.'"
….and with that how much money did Wasps receive for Lee Smith?
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"….and with that how much money did Wasps receive for Lee Smith?'"
I guess it depends on if the club see any value in keeping a player or not - Smith didn't seem to be picking up the idea of standing around bored and kicking the ball away at every opportunity, whereas Tronc is/was an important part of the team line-up.
Will we get a fee? I very much doubt it. Maybe a pre-season game at Lang Park…
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"I guess it depends on if the club see any value in keeping a player or not - Smith didn't seem to be picking up the idea of standing around bored and kicking the ball away at every opportunity, whereas Tronc is/was an important part of the team line-up.
Will we get a fee? I very much doubt it. Maybe a pre-season game at Lang Park…'"
Based on Tronc's performances since his homesickness was revealed i don't thing Trinity would get much value out of him staying at the club.
A transfer fee would be welcome (at the very least Trinity should get back the costs of Tronc's brief stay), but the 'reports' thus far talk about releases rather than transfers.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash" talk about releases rather than transfers.'"
wheres he staying in that very large building down west gate
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| Quote ="MUTLEY CAT"wheres he staying in that very large building down west gate
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If he is he can't really complain about facilities on offer, they have such a good all-weather pitch that Leeds Utd used it for training purposes when they were in the PL.
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