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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Here's a thought.
Newton was injured late last season. What if he ill advisedly took some "drug" or "medicine" to help him with the injury.
Remember it has happened before with Kieron Cunningham, so until the actual charges / results are confirmed it is probably better we keep our powder dry.
Let's wait and see before hanging him out to dry.'"
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| I don't think it really matters either way, one club or another, if he has a charge to answer and we DON'T know that at this stage then it looks bad on the game in general.
People keep going on about the RL familly and then you read some of the bitter bile thats been posted on here by a few poor trolls. Trouble is that everything said by other teams fans gets taken the wrong way, and any sensible discussuion breaks down.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"People keep going on about the RL familly and then you read some of the bitter bile thats been posted on here by a few poor trolls. Trouble is that everything said by other teams fans gets taken the wrong way, and any sensible discussuion breaks down.'"
Yep. Good to see they have gone.
Whilst this is a serious subject we still need to remember the fantastic start to the season we have had
(despite the pie fiasco! )
There is still a lot of great stuff going on, and until we are aware of the full facts its business as usual!
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| Well I think that's the first time I've heard Super League and certainly (table toppers) Wakefield get mentioned on the BBC Breakfast show.
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| Quote ="SBR"Well I think that's the first time I've heard Super League and certainly (table toppers) Wakefield get mentioned on the BBC Breakfast show.'"
Still managed a minor error though, apparently he has played in both of our games this season.
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| Quote ="TRB"[size=150=#BF0040Thread Cleaned Up!
No one has been found guilty of anything - yet.
Not any player or any club. This board will not become a kangaroo court for any individual or for any club.
Any posts which could, in any circumstances, be deemed to cross this line, will be removed - and the poster either warned or banned themselves.
No leniency! [/size'"
Correct. No one on here knows the facts so its not worthy of speculation.
Does anyone know when the RFL Inquiry is being held ?
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"Of course it was an alternative detrimental view. It didn't fit with what you lot want to think as it was detrimental. Thus, alternative and detrimental.
Quite feasible too and you know it oh sensitive one.'"
Nah, you were trolling - as always.
You know it. Oh trolling one.
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Newton had to leave the ‘’Audience with….’ early around that time, might've been for this test.
My own personal thoughts are although the bad publicity is unwelcome for the club, they’re not responsible for individual players’ actions. Just as Wigan were not responsible for Hock, Bradford for Hudson etc.
As for the ramifications to the playing side, well I have no affinity towards Newton and he is still relatively new to the club. The hooking role is a department were the club are fairly blessed with Latu and Obst plus young Davy for back up. Had it been Brough or a forward it may have been a struggle.
The point about his recovery form injury is a good point, however, if this were the case I would’ve thought that Newton would’ve been given the benefit of the doubt without getting banned until conclusive evidence proved whether he was guilty or not.
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Newton had to leave the ‘’Audience with….’ early around that time, might've been for this test.
My own personal thoughts are although the bad publicity is unwelcome for the club, they’re not responsible for individual players’ actions. Just as Wigan were not responsible for Hock, Bradford for Hudson etc.
As for the ramifications to the playing side, well I have no affinity towards Newton and he is still relatively new to the club. The hooking role is a department were the club are fairly blessed with Latu and Obst plus young Davy for back up. Had it been Brough or a forward it may have been a struggle.
The point about his recovery form injury is a good point, however, if this were the case I would’ve thought that Newton would’ve been given the benefit of the doubt without getting banned until conclusive evidence proved whether he was guilty or not.
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"If that were the case then you were the worst biter of them all.
No changes there.
Anyway, I'd love to play with you some more but we need to get back on topic.
FWIW I only care about those taking performance enhancing drugs. Those taking recreational stuff should be given a stern talking to, a fine but not banned for 2 years. That's excessive. Hock shouldnt have been banned and neither should Newton IF he's guilty of recreational only.'"
Unfortunately us '7 fingered neanderthal inbreds' as you so nicely put it on the Leeds board, have no desire
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| The reason I raised my concerns is that one week he is reported has having a possible season long injury...a torn bicep IIRC and misses a game
and the next we hear a radio interview on Saturday where it is stated he makes a "remarkable" recovery.
I do hope for the sake of the game as a whole the club are not culpable as well.
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"The reason I raised my concerns is that one week he is reported has having a possible season long injury...a torn bicep IIRC and misses a game
and the next we hear a radio interview on Saturday where it is stated he makes a "remarkable" recovery.
I do hope for the sake of the game as a whole the club are not culpable as well.'"
Didn’t Lunt from Huddersfield fear he had a broken arm and would be out for a few months, turns out it’s only ligament damage. Injuries are sometimes incorrectly diagnoised. People are looking far too much for conspiracy theories in this.
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| Quote ="underground"You may have a point...
depending on the type of drug, the timing of the first test and the sharing of this information with the club, the league and the player, the RFL by-Laws affecting this issue...
but as we know nothing of any of those issues... it's an irrelevant point based on pure conjecture and speculation...'"
90% of what is on the board is pure conjecture and speculation.
The RFL would not suspend a high profile player unless it believed it had reasonable grounds to do so - let's face it the sport is the big loser here
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"That's just it though, I didn't so don't make things up to suit.
I said If found guilty then the club has to take some responsibility for failing to control its players.
I have.
What part of 'If found guilty then the club has to take some responsibility' don't you understand?'"
You also suggested that all Wakefield players should be tested to make sure this isn’t a club problem. If that’s not trolling I don’t know what is.
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"
FWIW I only care about those taking performance enhancing drugs. Those taking recreational stuff should be given a stern talking to, a fine but not banned for 2 years. That's excessive. Hock shouldnt have been banned and neither should Newton IF he's guilty of recreational only.'"
Are you serious? You really think that players who are caught taking recreational drugs should face no sanction at all?
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"You also suggested that all Wakefield players should be tested to make sure this isn’t a club problem. If that’s not trolling I don’t know what is.'"
Correct. Be careful tho Khlav. You will be accused of being a 'biter' for responding to his trolling!
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Here's a thought.
Newton was injured late last season. What if he ill advisedly took some "drug" or "medicine" to help him with the injury.
Remember it has happened before with Kieron Cunningham, so until the actual charges / results are confirmed it is probably better we keep our powder dry.
Let's wait and see before hanging him out to dry.'"
Well said Sir, Unfortunately you Sandal and a few more are in a minority this morning What times the hanging?
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| Regardless of the fact that it is one of our players in the spotlight at the moment I think it's great that so many tests are done so frequently on people playing this sport. I do however think that three and a half months is far too long to decide to issue punishment and needs speeding up! This should have and surely could have been resolved prior to the start of the season.
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| Quote ="the blind ref"I do however think that three and a half months is far too long to decide to issue punishment and needs speeding up! This should have and surely could have been resolved prior to the start of the season.'"
Or at least resolved in the next few days as you now have a player who you cannot play, who cannot train, who cannot have any involvement with the club, and you cannot sack, taking up a valuable players spot and salary cap space.
Why on this earth should it take ANOTHER 3 months to solve this?
As for those who think there should be some kind of club sancition, they are just mad. I'm no Wakey fan (although I did work there for a while) but why should th fans and the rest of the people involved with the club suffer because of one persons madness (if indeed he is guilty)
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"If found guilty they should all be tested, as should any club who has a player guilty of failing a drugs test. A perfectly sensible request to make.'"
so the fact that 3-5 players from the same testing schedule past the test is of no relevance ? why not test all his previous clubs players ? your looking for bites sweetheart are you not?
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"What part of 'If found guilty then the club has to take some responsibility' don't you understand?'"
The if you unfortunately missed out when claiming the club had failed to control the player.
But enough about you. Back to Terry Newton.
The length of time required to deal with this issue is ridiculous, as Paxo states. It just leaves things to fester, to the detriment of the game, the club, and quite possibly the player too, if innocent of any deliberate wrongdoing.
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| Leave the Trolls to their do their homework. They'll be in trouble when they go back to school.
For me, it's disappointing that something like this has put the spotlight on the club.
For the player, I'm disappointed he's in this position, but I'd like to wait and see what the results are and what the drug was. It doesn't necessarily make a difference to the verdict, but it does make a difference to how I feel about it.
Right now, Terry Newton is part of the Wakefield Trinity family. He's been accused of something, let's at least support him while the results are not clear.....by not jumping to conclusions.
When the time comes that we do know, then the club and fans will have to decide whether he is worthy of their individual support.
At that point there will still be people accusing or trolling, but the Wakefield family should still bond together in support of the club, whether TN is part of the family or not.
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"The reason I raised my concerns is that one week he is reported has having a possible season long injury...a torn bicep IIRC and misses a game
and the next we hear a radio interview on Saturday where it is stated he makes a "remarkable" recovery.
I do hope for the sake of the game as a whole the club are not culpable as well.'"
The injury was sustained at Leeds on Boxing Day 26th December - the test was a month earlier on 24th November.This information should remove any doubt you may have !
If Newton is guilty of wrongdoing then he owes a huge apology to the club,his teammates,and those who do magnificent work in the community who have now had their work made much more difficult and sponsors of the club will also not be best pleased.
As of this time he is not guilty of any wrongdoing.
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| Quote ="MUTLEY CAT"he must go trough due process , but if found to be guilty I dont want to see him don the wakey shirt again ...
winners dont use'"
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| Quote ="TRB"[size=150=#BF0040Thread Cleaned Up!
No one has been found guilty of anything - yet.
Not any player or any club. This board will not become a kangaroo court for any individual or for any club.
Any posts which could, in any circumstances, be deemed to cross this line, will be removed - and the poster either warned or banned themselves.
No leniency! [/size'"
=#4000BFAnd again cleaned up!
Please ensure that nothing is put on here suggesting anything other than what has been reported.
We do not know what, if anything, TN has been found positive for, let alone the details of when, where and how.
Final waring to all - stay within the rules please!
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