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| I think I would have been more inclined to go had it been down at Belle Vue. Can't help thinking that the club has Gilded the Lily with about 10 coats! The Lily might actually be a dandelion!
I'll check out the messageboard in the morning to see how much discount I'll be getting off my 2012 season ticket.
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| Our informant who says £250K for Academy & £750K for stadium might not have this 100% correct!
Maybe the £750K is the purchase price to buy back Belle Vue?
Second part of this announcement is the temporary development of our existing ground to satisfy the RFL in the short term pending our move to NM.
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| Quote ="The Clan"Our informant who says £250K for Academy & £750K for stadium might not have this 100% correct!
Maybe the £750K is the purchase price to buy back Belle Vue?
Second part of this announcement is the temporary development of our existing ground to satisfy the RFL in the short term pending our move to NM.'"
That would be the supreme irony, that we finally upgrade Belle Vue to Super League standards and then leave.
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I don't think so, but glad to see this has been sorted and now submitted to planning and one assumes the planning inspector. This was something that needed sorting Khlav before the inquiry.
This is good news everyone and is another thing on the Newmarket site sorted and removes issues that three statutory authorities required more information on, so effectivley this only leaves the issue of reaching a resolution, well best possible compromise position because they will never give in totally, with Natural England/WYE.
It looks like Yorkcourt have reached agreement in principal with the Highways Agency, Wakefield Council Highways (and the Police in respect of traffic enforcement) and Metro in respect of public transport.
A quick summary is that Metro/Aviva will run match-day special shuttle buses for every match from Wakefield (bus station and both railway stations). They even state that for Castleford and Leeds matches, they will probably run match day specials directly from Leeds and Castleford centres to the stadium. Also, Yorkcourt/Stadium management company have agreed on a five year marketing funding plan to promote the travel plan to the tune of £85k, they won't be free (the buses) but this money will be used to 'advertise' the services.
It also looks like Metro are happy with existing services buses having the capacity to serve the site in general, but will of course will increase them if required.
They have clearly satisfied the Highways Agency that the existing strategic road network would easily cope with match-day traffic, so that is them sorted.
Finally, they have agreed to implement a 1.5km parking exclusion zone around the stadium and even agreed the streets to be restricted with the Police and Wakefield Highways to residents only on match days.
Reading between the lines, I also suspect that a car-parking charge will be made to all fans wishing to park in the stadium car park. The idea being to make it cheaper for most home fans to walk, use public or the special transport or park outside the exclusion zone and then walk. As for away fans then the charge will be such that you probably won't mind parking if you have a car-full, which most away fans probably do or indeed they will also park outside the exclusion zone and walk.
I think this is a big box that needed formally ticking, now being duly ticked!
So, given that Leeds City Council are unlikely to drop their objection for political reasons that means when a 'compromise' agreement with Natural England/WYE is reached then it will be just LCC left!
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I don't think so, but glad to see this has been sorted and now submitted to planning and one assumes the planning inspector. This was something that needed sorting Khlav before the inquiry.
This is good news everyone and is another thing on the Newmarket site sorted and removes issues that three statutory authorities required more information on, so effectivley this only leaves the issue of reaching a resolution, well best possible compromise position because they will never give in totally, with Natural England/WYE.
It looks like Yorkcourt have reached agreement in principal with the Highways Agency, Wakefield Council Highways (and the Police in respect of traffic enforcement) and Metro in respect of public transport.
A quick summary is that Metro/Aviva will run match-day special shuttle buses for every match from Wakefield (bus station and both railway stations). They even state that for Castleford and Leeds matches, they will probably run match day specials directly from Leeds and Castleford centres to the stadium. Also, Yorkcourt/Stadium management company have agreed on a five year marketing funding plan to promote the travel plan to the tune of £85k, they won't be free (the buses) but this money will be used to 'advertise' the services.
It also looks like Metro are happy with existing services buses having the capacity to serve the site in general, but will of course will increase them if required.
They have clearly satisfied the Highways Agency that the existing strategic road network would easily cope with match-day traffic, so that is them sorted.
Finally, they have agreed to implement a 1.5km parking exclusion zone around the stadium and even agreed the streets to be restricted with the Police and Wakefield Highways to residents only on match days.
Reading between the lines, I also suspect that a car-parking charge will be made to all fans wishing to park in the stadium car park. The idea being to make it cheaper for most home fans to walk, use public or the special transport or park outside the exclusion zone and then walk. As for away fans then the charge will be such that you probably won't mind parking if you have a car-full, which most away fans probably do or indeed they will also park outside the exclusion zone and walk.
I think this is a big box that needed formally ticking, now being duly ticked!
So, given that Leeds City Council are unlikely to drop their objection for political reasons that means when a 'compromise' agreement with Natural England/WYE is reached then it will be just LCC left!
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| Total of 1,288 car park spaces available too, that's quite a lot even when you deduct 300 for employees, officials, sponsors & disabled.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"That would be the supreme irony, that we finally upgrade Belle Vue to Super League standards and then leave.
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True but it would only be a temporary measure to appease the RFL with regard to our offering a better facility for supporters in the interim period.
IMO this compromise is made possible because of two main reasons:
1. our Junior development is too valuable to put at risk hence the RFL requesting that we DO NOT vacate the Wakefield area even temporarily.
As soon as they asked us not to go to Oakwell they then couldn't punish us for not having a SL standard Stadium as part of our franchise bid. That then opens up the possibility of a temporary make over of Belle Vue as a compromise.
2. The dire situation of Crusaders painted the RFL into a corner, there is absolutely no way that the RFL can make a case for excluding any other club in favour of Crusaders, not even the expansion card will bridge the credibility gap of that decision!
I think the July decision will be for a 15 or 16 team SL.
The RFL will cite the unprecedented financial climate of the last 3 years as their reason for leniency with regard to Salford, Wakefield & Castleford.
To avoid any adverse action being taken by either Widnes or Halifax there will be a route into SL for both, obviously we know that Widnes will come up and Halifax will either get the nod as well or they will be told (possibly privately) to be on standby should Crusaders go out of business.
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| Is it time yet?
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| Quote ="The Clan"Total of 1,288 car park spaces available too, that's quite a lot even when you deduct 300 for employees, officials, sponsors & disabled.'"
Yep, 800 at the stadium and 488 additional match day spaces to be made available within the lease agreements with the employment uses. I also notice that they have agreed that car occupancy will have to be 3 people or more per car or they will not be allowed to use any of the on-site car-parking (I assume staff and sponsor/corporate spaces within the 300 will be ticket only and not number restricted). So, that is on-site parking for just short of 3000 spectators based on 3 per car and just short of 4000 based on 4 per car. That will be by far the best in Super League, not forgetting the large coach parking area for away coaches!
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| I'm going to step into my time machine (otherwise know as XBox CoD Zombies) which will magically make three hours disappear from my life.
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| Quote ="The Clan"I'm going to step into my time machine (otherwise know as XBox CoD Zombies) which will magically make three hours disappear from my life.'"
I have a similar time machine only mine is called Football Manager.
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| Lufthansa made an unexpected additional 3 hours of my life disappear on Monday night, but the problem was... it felt like 6!
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| TONIGHT. Cedar Court. 7.30pm. Be There. OR be square! Never really understood that expression
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| Quote ="Willzay"TONIGHT. Cedar Court. 7.30pm. Be There. OR be square! Never really understood that expression
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I cant believe how much detail they have to go into to compile just a travel plan!! all it basically says is they will be shuttle buses probably from cas and leeds when we play them and they will do their best to enourage people to use them, or cycle or walk, in about a million words!!
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I cant believe how much detail they have to go into to compile just a travel plan!! all it basically says is they will be shuttle buses probably from cas and leeds when we play them and they will do their best to enourage people to use them, or cycle or walk, in about a million words!!
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| Hoping to set off in an hour's time, want to get a good seat if possible...why am I getting excited?
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"Hoping to set off in an hour's time, want to get a good seat if possible...why am I getting excited?
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Cos you're a giddy kipper!
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| Think we are all excited. Fingers crossed (will be hard driving though).
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| Getting a bit of pre match nerves!!
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"I cant believe how much detail they have to go into to compile just a travel plan!! all it basically says is they will be shuttle buses probably from cas and leeds when we play them and they will do their best to enourage people to use them, or cycle or walk, in about a million words!!'"
But remember, this is the level of detail that was being asked for to prove that the location was sustainable. Now that this has been done and successfully agreed with three statutory bodies, the planning inspector has a situation where these three statutory bodies are happy with the proposals, so one of the three areas the inquiry wanted to look at has been effectivley removed and dealt with satisfactorily. Unless he disagrees with their conclusions, which is highly unlikely given who they are, then that just leaves the Green belt and the Ecology of the site to look at. As it is also likley that the issues of the site Ecology and animal habitats will reach a compromise position before the inquiry as well, then it just leaves the issue of the current Green Belt designation... which of course the LDF is likley to resolve before the planning inquiry as well.
So basically, the eventual inquiry could be short and not very eventful!
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"But remember, this is the level of detail that was being asked for to prove that the location was sustainable. Now that this has been done and successfully agreed with three statutory bodies, the planning inspector has a situation where these three statutory bodies are happy with the proposals, so one of the three areas the inquiry wanted to look at has been effectivley removed and dealt with satisfactorily. Unless he disagrees with their conclusions, which is highly unlikely given who they are, then that just leaves the Green belt and the Ecology of the site to look at. As it is also likley that the issues of the site Ecology and animal habitats will reach a compromise position before the inquiry as well, then it just leaves the issue of the current Green Belt designation... which of course the LDF is likley to resolve before the planning inquiry as well.
So basically, the eventual inquiry could be short and not very eventful!'"
I know why they have to go into so much detail and maybe re enforce things over and over, but can you imagine writing these things? it would do your head wouldnt it? its great to hear this will hopefully overcome these hurdles that the planning have put in front of it so it SHOULD be almost plain sailing.....we hope!
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