Yeah, of course I do but as Aretha Franklin famously said "Behind every great man there has to be a great wom......"

Doh,



Wrong analogy, but you get my drift

Evans & agreed

I’m afraid no matter who’s the conditioner then now or when ever, if I was a professional SL player, I would be doing extras to counter act it, or are some players lazy or satisfied to amble along just a thought.

I'm not sure your agenda here, are you saying the players in our squad don't do extras if so how do you know?

He as got no proof,but when you watch us play you can see how far we are behind All the other SL team in every thing, so he as a good point.Think one of two of our big money signings will be going at end of season .Think we are going to struggle big time .No proof just what I am reading between the lines

I'd say that BLM has more idea about that than most posters on here........

How does that work then?

Anyone who knows BLM knows why he knows.

Guess Jordan Crowther fills him in?

Well I know blm and I don't know why he knows, I can hazard a guess though, even though he's said countless times before on here that Jordan tells him nothing and he does not ask, for the benefit of you and Barnsley chop here's blm previous post.

Seems to me he's one of the few of us on here that doesn't know a great deal about coaching

We were talking about conditioning not coaching........


Can see why your "little"

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, you weren't talking about anything, just brown nosing blm and embarrassing yourself.
The coaching on my part was an oversight, it should have said conditioning, whatever dip your bread while you can.

The thread isn't about BLM. Let's leave that one alone now please.

Again let me clarify, I was referring to the discussion regarding past conditioners and again, what ever the squad or year it was then if I was a professional player and blowing out of my aris every game and again I would make amends with extra work and regarding present day I wouldn’t ever divulge any thing on here. Regarding Jordy he has more pressing things to think about like helping Wakey to get back to winning ways.

Got to feel for Poaching coming to a club that's on melt down, players not performing, fans arguing among them selves, he's going to wish he never took on the job ,

He was the one that took it, he's a grown man and I'm sure he'll realise he has two options. He can sit back and sulk or roll his sleeves up and get stuck in.

I am glad the subject of our purported head of Fitness conditioning is being discussed. I would also like to add that I agree with other posters who have pointed out that this club had the fittest team ever under Jeff Evans. If we were about level at half time with any team you knew for certain the game was ours in the second half.

Now back to the present. It is my understanding that fitness conditioning and sports science in general has moved on to levels that were never even considered back in the 80's and 90's. Usually people who now make a living it that field are highly trained and have a solid educational background to degree level at least. It is now recognised as a genuine science in its own right.

It is also my understanding that the man who is in this position at our club turned up on the doorstep one day selling mobile phones. Agar saw him and as a favour to an old mate he never sold a phone but walked out of the club with a new job as a conditioner. Other than being a mate of Agar I am not sure what qualifications he has in respect of the job. Again I am only a supporter but the team dosn't look that fit to me, certainly no where near the standard under Evans. I also watch all the other teams on sky and many of those seem miles in front of us in fitness and intensity. Hopefully when we get a new coach the bloke will be given someone new on the conditioning side to help him

I know which one it will be....

I hope he turns up with a machete and cuts back all the dead wood

noticed few seasons ago that wigan had a new young lad in sat next to him he's Head of Sports Science & Analysis, lovely lad from Wakefield Danny Blundell he played along side my lad at Stanley Rangers really pleased to see his progress in the game, just shows how stagnate we have become

Hell need more than a macete a few bulldozers may best option

It does not matter who brought him to the club, what matters is, is he doing a good job the general consensus on here says no, although I'm sure he would not agree, the problem is and I say problem because it would appear that the management don't agree with the fans and must think he's doing a good job otherwise the coach Mr Chester would want rid of him, he clearly thinks he's doing a good job which is why he's still here unless he's working without wages if we can afford to bring in players we don't need which once again Chester clearly thinks we do, then why no new conditioner, tbh I'm past caring whether he stays or goes and that's both of them, I don't need to be a coach or a conditioner to see things aren't right the players are playing with no confidence they're dispirited, clueless and look disinterested why is that? for me it's a lack of confidence in the coach and his staff.

All the deadwood as in? Be interesting on your thoughts as to who these people are, eg certain players or coaching staff.

you sound like your happy to continue with the staff we have,
I losing all interest in the game with the club there's nothing to even get excited about anymore there's no battle in them something has to change and a clean sweep would be the ideal thing, I had stopped criticising players until the Battye loan signing he just don't see him the next level up, Gigot frustrates the hell out of me because he's better then what he's shown us, I maybe wrong but we can't keep on going like this

I'm far from happy with what we've have, but as long as they're employed by the club I'm reluctant to bad mouth them and that's not a criticism at those that do criticise, you pay your money your entitled to an opinion and I've long since stopped trying to alter peoples opinion, but if you try and balance things out sensibly, clearly somethings not right for instance you might have a player who has taken a pay cut to help out and sees Chester signing somebody when the CEO has told him we've no money, don't blame Carter for that he hasn't a clue about players it's the coach that wanted the player/s, most people think Clawson's a waste of time, he might well be but he's there because the coach wants him, again the CEO has to trust his coach, what input does Gilmour provide, there does not seem a lot on offer there to be honest, most of that squad if not all of them are Chester signings, I'm sure most on here can point to the odd individual players they don't want at the club, but if he can't get his players playing for him then somethings not right, so as I said on balance the fault must lie with the coach and his band of helpers, just my opinion, do I want him sacked, I'm afraid that's not my decision it's Carters the question to him should be do you want to be the CEO of a club in the Championship.