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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"Quote ="Khlav Kalash"SC, does it usually take two years? I suppose in normal circumstances the time isn’t such an important factor, however with an imposed deadline hanging over one of the main tenants of the development it should expedite matters a little.'"
It wasn't until the Inquiry that the finer details of the S106 Agreement were discussed so they haven't been working on the S106 Agreement for 2 years.
The Agreement is important to all parties and its vital that its right, particularly if you are having to put a substantail amount of money into the Stadium. There has to be a bit of prid pro quo and YC have to be allowed to build units before the Stadium or the development is not fundable.
As I've said people can panic or not. They can believe IA or people on the Cas Forum who are crapping themselves and praying that we fail as our failure would appear to be their only chance of success.
Having worked in development for 30 years, on developments like this including Glasshoughton I'm not concerned but I have learned that you just have to be patient - it will happen and we will be awarded a franchise in 2015 and you can quote me if I'm wrong.'"
Thanks for that. I think the comment from YC saying all documents have been submitted has when in reality it hasn't has made me doubt things.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Thanks for that. I think the comment from YC saying all documents have been submitted has when in reality it hasn't has made me doubt things.'"
No worries. I suspect that a draft of the 106 Agreement will have been circulating between the parties. YC will have submitted a draft but the SoS will not grant formal consent until the document is signed and sealed.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"A reply posted on that forum again, no idea who El Capitan is. I've including the quote he/she is replying to as both the desperation of it to fail and the reply made me chuckle.'"
When you say "that Forum" - do you mean the one on here that no one speaks of ?
The evil one ?
Or maybe "The-ones-we-do-not-speak-of" as in the M.Night Shayamalan film The Village.
Or even Lord Voldemort from the Harry Potter films referred to as "You-Know-Who" or "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named" ?
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| Quote ="Tigerade"When you say "that Forum" - do you mean the one on here that no one speaks of ?
The evil one ?
Or maybe "The-ones-we-do-not-speak-of" as in the M.Night Shayamalan film The Village.
Or even Lord Voldemort from the Harry Potter films referred to as "You-Know-Who" or "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named" ?
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| The cas forum is a special place, for special people.
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| Right, panic over!
I have now been made party to a letter from Gateley (Yorkcourt's Agent) to the SoS office dated 29th August 2012.
It is just a simple legal issue that is holding up the actual dating and formal final completion of the 106 agreement. The section 106 has indeed been signed by all parties, the Bank, the land owner and the applicant and the SoS office have a copy but this copy is currently undated! It can't be dated because completion of it has to be simultaneous with the completion of a contract for the acquisition of the stadium site by the applicant from the current land owner.
So the letter basically asks for a short period of additional time, which is necessary to allow the completion of the land transaction. It would appear from the letter that the SoS officers are aware of the issue and they have clearly being discussing this issue with Gateley and all this letter is just a formal confirmation of such.
So there you go! If someone would like to post this on any other forums, please feel free.
Nothing to see here I am afraid! Told you all not to worry!
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"The Agreement is important to all parties and its vital that its right, particularly if you are having to put a substantail amount of money into the Stadium. There has to be a bit of prid pro quo and YC have to be allowed to build units before the Stadium or the development is not fundable.
As I've said people can panic or not. They can believe IA or people on the Cas Forum who are crapping themselves and praying that we fail as our failure would appear to be their only chance of success.
Having worked in development for 30 years, on developments like this including Glasshoughton I'm not concerned but I have learned that you just have to be patient - it will happen and we will be awarded a franchise in 2015 and you can quote me if I'm wrong.'"
BTW - Needed to do this to this post
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Right, panic over!
I have now been made party to a letter from Gateley (Yorkcourt's Agent) to the SoS office dated 29th August 2012.
It is just a simple legal issue that is holding up the actual dating and formal final completion of the 106 agreement. The section 106 has indeed been signed by all parties, the Bank, the land owner and the applicant and the SoS office have a copy but this copy is currently undated! It can't be dated because completion of it has to be simultaneous with the completion of a contract for the acquisition of the stadium site by the applicant from the current land owner.
So the letter basically asks for a short period of additional time, which is necessary to allow the completion of the land transaction. It would appear from the letter that the SoS officers are aware of the issue and they have clearly being discussing this issue with Gateley and all this letter is just a formal confirmation of such.
So there you go! If someone would like to post this on any other forums, please feel free.
Nothing to see here I am afraid! Told you all not to worry!
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Thank you muchly! Maybe from Yorkcourts perspective keeping you in the loop a little better (and earlier!) over matters such as this when deadlines are going to be affected might be an idea to head off any bad press towards them. Remember ater all the crap us wakey fans have been through regarding stadia in the past its natural to be a little touchy! We just want the sodding thing built!!
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Right, panic over!
I have now been made party to a letter from Gateley (Yorkcourt's Agent) to the SoS office dated 29th August 2012.
It is just a simple legal issue that is holding up the actual dating and formal final completion of the 106 agreement. The section 106 has indeed been signed by all parties, the Bank, the land owner and the applicant and the SoS office have a copy but this copy is currently undated! It can't be dated because completion of it has to be simultaneous with the completion of a contract for the acquisition of the stadium site by the applicant from the current land owner.
So the letter basically asks for a short period of additional time, which is necessary to allow the completion of the land transaction. It would appear from the letter that the SoS officers are aware of the issue and they have clearly being discussing this issue with Gateley and all this letter is just a formal confirmation of such.
So there you go! If someone would like to post this on any other forums, please feel free.
Nothing to see here I am afraid! Told you all not to worry!
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Thank you IA. Any ideas as to the next deadline?
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Thank you muchly! Maybe from Yorkcourts perspective keeping you in the loop a little better (and earlier!) over matters such as this when deadlines are going to be affected might be an idea to head off any bad press towards them. Remember ater all the crap us wakey fans have been through regarding stadia in the past its natural to be a little touchy! We just want the sodding thing built!!'"
I think they are just guilty of doing this type of stuff all the time and to them it is no big deal, it is just something that needs resolving. They don't do it on purpose by any means, I just think that they might not fully appreciate just how much scrutiny they and others are being put under on forums, twitter etc.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Thank you IA. Any ideas as to the next deadline?'"
I get the impression that it is just waiting (probably for yet another set of lawyers) to get this land transaction finally sorted out. As it will have been under option subject to planning, then actually getting this land transaction sorted and finalised in just 4 weeks has probably just proved elusive. I would think the SoS office will be wanting (and getting) regular updates on progress but don't think an hard and fast deadline will have been set, given that the SoS office would appear to be happy with everything other than getting the dated version of the S106 agreement.
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| As an aside, the LDF sites plan went before the council this afternoon for final ratification and adoption. I would expect therefore it was indeed ratified and adopted and that a large part of the development site is now finally formally removed from Green Belt!
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"The desperation of a few of their fans really is astounding though.'"
I would not worry about this particular poster, he's been fed any info he gets because he's not smart enough to figure it out himself, he's banned from this forum (more than once) and he's banned from Cas RLfans, tells you all you need to know.
It looks like he will be getting binned from ALL THINGS TIGER before much longer
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| Quote [iTigerwood Posse: Okay..... Whatever..... You keep believing that knobmadillo...... There will be NO stadium...simples.... It's one handout too much for the Scrounging polecats i'm afraid!!!!! I cannot wait to see this fail......sorry but I hate you scrounging tawarts[/i'"
I don't know about anyone else but this guy is a crystal example of why I hate Cas!
While some will shed a tear when they get the boot in 2 years, I certainly won't. I'm a passionate vocalist for our eternal tune "We all hate Cas. SCUM"
I can smell the desperation from the other side of West Yorkshire. Long live their decline!
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| Quote ="TrinitarianWF2"I don't know about anyone else but this guy is a crystal example of why I hate Cas!
While some will shed a tear when they get the boot in 2 years, I certainly won't. I'm a passionate vocalist for our eternal tune "We all hate Cas. SCUM"
I can smell the desperation from the other side of West Yorkshire. Long live their decline!'"
Totally disagree, he is an excellent example of a first class cretin but only a fraction of one percent of the Castleford support.
I see people equally as cretinous and embarrassing supporting us (arguably more) but I don't hate us!!
Cretins are cretins they're every where and sadly there are far too many of them.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Totally disagree, he is an excellent example of a first class cretin but only a fraction of one percent of the Castleford support.
I see people equally as cretinous and embarrassing supporting us (arguably more) but I don't hate us!!
Cretins are cretins they're every where and sadly there are far too many of them.'"
yep back you up on that one KC
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Totally disagree, he is an excellent example of a first class cretin but only a fraction of one percent of the Castleford support.
I see people equally as cretinous and embarrassing supporting us (arguably more) but I don't hate us!!
Cretins are cretins they're every where and sadly there are far too many of them.'"
I guess I hold grudges longer mate.
As long as we keep doing what we're doing (supporting our club) everything else is immaterial. so I don't let it bother me, until I see posts from cretins like that.
People like that cretin get my goat.
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| Quote ="TrinitarianWF2"I don't know about anyone else but this guy is a crystal example of why I hate Cas!
While some will shed a tear when they get the boot in 2 years, I certainly won't. I'm a passionate vocalist for our eternal tune "We all hate Cas. SCUM"
I can smell the desperation from the other side of West Yorkshire. Long live their decline!'"
He's certainly not yer typical Cas fan. In fact he's not typical anything, apart from a typical
fruit loop!!
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| Quote ="TrinitarianWF2"I don't know about anyone else but this guy is a crystal example of why I hate Cas!
While some will shed a tear when they get the boot in 2 years, I certainly won't. I'm a passionate vocalist for our eternal tune "We all hate Cas. SCUM"
I can smell the desperation from the other side of West Yorkshire. Long live their decline!'"
Noooooooooooo don't hold back, Say what your thinking
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| Jesus Christ, 1 idiot posts and suddenly it's every Cas fan conspiring against Wakey. People like Trinitarian are the reason why I hate everything Wakefield, scrounging, manipulative & hypocrisy.
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| I'm from Wakey does that make me a scrounger?
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| Quote ="inside man"I'm from Wakey does that make me a scrounger?'"
No, not for 1 second do I think you are either.
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| Quote ="Towns88"Jesus Christ, 1 idiot posts and suddenly it's every Cas fan conspiring against Wakey. People like Trinitarian are the reason why I hate everything Wakefield, scrounging, manipulative & hypocrisy.'"
Jesus Christ, 1 idiot posts and suddenly it's every Wakey fan conspiring against Cas. People like Towns are the reason I hate everything Cas, small-town, parochial and with a massive chip on their shoulder.*
Did you see what I did there?
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