You can counter the 100/1 outsider of the lot price by saying the 8/1 for us to make the Top 6 is actually a bit of value. I'm not saying it's expected and I'm more than aware that next season will be a tough year to stay competitive and avoid relegation but there's always a surprise team that exceeds expectation, why couldn't that be us ?

Absolutely, like i said about Leigh, i don't think their odds reflect their chances of winning it.

Bang on BG.
In honesty, it's difficult to see us higher than 9/10/11th but, it's the same every year.
Applegarth will bring some fresh ideas and plenty of enthusiasm and he's done pretty well with the reserves etc.

As usual, we live in hope and if we can have a little bit more luck with injuries (the lack of them), we will go ok.
We played most of last season without our first choice three quarters, although, Hall and Murphy were exceptional "replacements".
As usual, it will be the pack and the halves who make the difference and we have some new faces.
However, if we stay relatively injury free and the new guys fit in well, we will be ok.

It's a big year too, our 150th anniversary, which is a huge milestone.

Come on Trin !

The only comfort I get from this is it's Sky doing the forecasting, they've probably heard it from the bookies or the Warrington wolve, or maybe they've consulted Dick & Liddie, or the peg seller, or that waste of space we got from Cas for a season, or maybe even the font of all RL knowledge from Wigun, he's done wonderfully well on Sky with his prediction.

That's not how it works now.
They get the prices from central analytics companies, then the traders will see if there is anything to change based on their own knowledge or the amount of money posted.
Thats why you often see the same odds at different bookies before the events get close.

Not sure how it works tbh not being into betting at all, my post if I'm honest was simply to show my contempt for those well paid clowns what ruin my Sky viewing of the matches by having to turn the sound off every game when they're coaching, sorry amateurishly commentating on the games.

If it makes you feel better, Sky don't own any part of SkyBet any more.

As I said before I don't gamble on anything, except maybe if a certain gentleman in red commented on our CEO it wouldn't be complimentary


I'll tell you something for nothing though Sky no longer own me either as I've now seen out my Sky Q contract, I'll miss certain aspects of it, but not the Sky rugby commentary team or the bl**dy adverts either.

Lol. I'm all in with Sky.
The commentary team don't bother me but C4 and Premier both showed them the way.

The Sky team stopped bothering me when I dropped on the idea of turning the sound off

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That premier is that linked to Fox Sports?, because if it is they are certainly in a different league to that bunch of chancers on sky, downside of it is when I turn on to the Beeb for the cup games that Wilkins rears his ugly head, still it's comforting to know you can turn to the tried and tested and turn the sound off

On the subject of Sky, my deal comes to an end in 3 weeks, so I will be looking to re-new but hopefully on better terms, for me, not them, as my package is now getting expensive.
So has anyone successfully negotiated down their contract recently ?? (as per Martin Lewis' recommendations)

I did but with Virgin, the cost including all channels had reached £150 but after a discussion I reduced this to £86.00.

They'll want to keep you. So you need to plead poverty and say your friend got a discount.

If you go on to apps and then onto manage my account the monthly charge will tell you what it's going up to in 3 weeks time, mine went up from £101.50 to £116.50, when I told them to shove it they magnanimously offered to reduce it to what it was ok if you trust them, it's not 12 month since they put it up £5 per month from £96.50, a lot of money to pay for adverts second hand sport during the week, women's football, netball, basketball, and the most expensive internet on the market, good luck anyway

This ^^^^^^^^^^^

Regarding TV deals, I've decided not to renew my Premier Sports subscription this year. Without the Leigh v Featherstone tussle I just don't see the Championship as interesting. I will unfortunately miss any games involving Trinity loanees though.

The PS footage has been pretty good, however, if they want mass sign ups they are going to have to drop the charge down, not sure what will happen now they have been bought out.

Either way no Leigh v Fev is a key issue for the championship, but not an end point for the PS deal as there are plenty of other matches. The problem is they are stuck with a specific audience.

Unlike C4 who have open air and access to all levels of the sport in reality.

Just for info, from past experience the Sky Bet trader is the best in the business (if it's still the same guy who I was aware of a few years back). They price all the lower league games up including the outright for the National Conference. That has to have some confidence in your ability to form a view on something especially such a low competition (no offence to anyone that plays at that level). In general Skybet are normally on the money with their prices / views.

Got mine down by £45/mth a few months ago mate....

FIL may struggle with that ruse PT..........

Lol. Sorry FIL but that made me properly laugh out loud.

Do they even really price most markets anymore? I thought they just used the exchanges as the natural market level?

They still have traders. They just tweek the feeds based on how much money is posted and any particular market and sometimes just to encourage people to a new market.

Skybet is owned by Flutter now, big shake up happening and reorg (so I hear).

I thought YOU were my friend BG ??



£45 per month reduction ????





Do you have some embarrassing photographs of Rupert Murdoch or something ???