Bloody hell you’ll be wanting Richie Mathers next.

That bloody stutter is getting worse

What has Max done to cement his place in our team? What has Max done that other fullbacks in the league haven’t?

The only justification from anyone on this forum has been that “he’s one of our young lads”. It doesn’t mean anything, he’s not good enough yet people are blinded because they want him to follow in the footsteps of Johnstone.

I don’t want people to jump and say I’m like the rest, I’d love Max to secure the fullback shirt it would be another success for the club in terms of academy production and would surely benefit the club financially however comparing our fullbacks to other clubs, we’re embarrasingly far behind.

Barba/Coote (who’s replacing Barba at Saints)
Ratchford
Shaul
Mamo
Tomkins
Gigot
QLT

If we want to better ourselves, we need to be critical and improve on areas that are weak.

Is that so, if you ask nicely I’m sure MC would do a break down of finances available to Wakey for you because it seems its hard for you to grasp that we are not a Wigan, Leeds, Saints, Hull with guaranteed income to splash out on your so called quality players, and for the record I believe Max is good enough, opinions eh, who’d have em

Very touchy - I’m also only expressing my opinion but to keep on track with the discussion; hasn’t MC confirmed 2/3 times that we are one of the only clubs (if not the only) to have spent considerably under the salary cap?

Grix and Jowitt depart with the extra 75k from finishing 5th leaving us with a SL standard fullback and Hooley to cover?

Thankfully the clubs coach believes in Max Jowitt, as lots on here do, hence him signing the contract not that long since!

Two dropped passes and Mr and Mrs Fickle come out of the drains.

IMHO Max Jowitt's only problem is his lack of game time over the last two seasons. Hardly his own doing.

You buy the 1000 extra season tickets to allow us to spend full salary cap, I believe that is the figure required, then you might get your wish, regarding the touchy quote, you might be right as I am involved with the youth set up and also realistic.

Jowitt and Grix are under contract, that £75k pays them off leaving us with Hooley and Jones-Bishop. One untested and the other a decent winger but never seemed a natural number 1 and was in fact lost his place to the very kid you want to get rid of.

How dare you suggest one of our home grown talent isnt good enough...you are right though not cos of friday but while grix was out he had the chance to show how good he is but for me has been average in attack and defence wish that wasnt the case but its how it is if where to move forward i do think we need summet different..as with crowther he cant be knocked and its put out there hes still developing even though he been playing first team rugby for 4 to 5 years as he is local as with max really wish he would of shown up but he hasnt and we cant just praise cos there local boys if where to move forward

It's always a silly week after we lose to Cas.

A) Where's this mystical affordable fullback whose going to "take us forward"?

B) We need to sort the halfback situation first! :STUPID

C) Give me the name of one single fullback who didn't make mistakes at Jowitt's age.

You know what they say about opinions..:

Castleford have picked up two decent quality fullbacks during this season alone, the players are out there; I never said I knew who the fullback we should sign is, I just know the quality is available as it is for other clubs.

I have a different opinion and I seem to be getting shot down for it despite nobody providing any reason for why Jowitt is good enough



We even played Rocky infront if him earlier in the season, what sort of confidence does that show?

You know what they say about opinions


Remind us all again what your was of Richard Agar

Once, and even then Chester acknowledged that was a mistake.

I also wouldn't count QLT as quality when he's being released and has played in the championship for most of his career.

Gladly he was an abysmal head coach who ruined/underperformed at every single top job he got.

But why was it even thought of in the first place?!? Doesn’t answer my question...

QLT admittedly played the majority of his career in the championship and I’m not 100% why because he’s been more than good enough at Castleford. 8 games played and bagged 6 tries, hardly something to snub your nose at?

You've bagged finny,grixy aswell ! Your one of the most negative posters on here but when someone else does it you want to be 1st knight to the rescue

I do agree QLT would be perfect for you on a 1 year deal. Cas signed him as a solution to our full back problem but then we lost both 1st choice half backs and he filled in there for a few games but then reverted to full back. He did very well in both positions but then Peter Mata'utia became available and we got Gale and Roberts back plus in the meantime Jake Trueman has emerged as an outstanding young half back rendering QLT redundant.
I don't think Max has yet perfected the "out of the back pocket" move that the modern full back does (Dorn, Hardaker and Mata'utia) at Cas.
Not for one minute am I suggesting you take our surplus to requirement player but I'm sure he could play and learn Max the art of full back play and at the same time improve the half back options. Wouldn't be too expensive I would imagine.

Agree 100% with this.

I think we are doing well with the FB situation with 3 decent choices plus further back ups in Hampshire/Miller/BJB, though we wouldn't want to lose them from their current positions.

Jowitt is still young and has had limited game time. However from what I've seen this year he has improved notably from last year, he is learning well. Okay he dropped a couple of balls against Cas, big deal, every player has a bad game now and then.

When TJ first came on the scene he was making mistakes galore, he was as much a liability as a threat. However he's had a lot of game time and a few years under his belt. We all know he is developing wonderfully.

Jowitt is quick, watch him. He is developing well in link play and plays a pivotal part in numerous tries. Most pleasing for me this year is that his one on one tackling is improving as he showed on Friday. Okay he still needs to work on his game but maybe people don't appreciate quite how skilled the FB role is in the team.

For where we are as a club I am happy with Grix, Jowitt and Hooley. To be honest, with the list of FBs at other clubs quoted I'm not really envious of what the other clubs have. If you watch those players closely you will see that they have weaknesses too.

After a loss to Cas, someone can always be relied upon to seek a scapegoat.

Jowitt is still young and has had limited game time.

Before Grix came along I'm sure Max played for a couple of seasons without making a tackle. he's had the chance & to be honest & at 21 he he's played that position probably all his life he should know what he's doing.
Some players don't make it & he's one He probably could help a championship club as a second fullback or a league one club as there main fullback I really don't know what people are holding on to. The truth he's signed three year deal the same as we gave Owen is that naivety on MC's part

Weren't a current top 4 super league club after him not that long ago.

If so, Max cant be that bad a player surely.

Still young, still learning, in what is, in my eyes a specialist position.

Give the lad a break folks

Jowitt played one season before Grix signed, other than this year his appearances have be sporadic since. He may not make it but at the moment IMO he's on a par with Grix and can get better.

Time will tell, but anyone expecting us to sign the next Billy Slater are going to be majorly disapointed. Those kind of players don't sign for us.

Food for thought, we have got to fifth place, potentially for two seasons on the bounce, with these 'sub-standard' fullbacks. That's not bad going.

For my money Max Jowitt is the future he is learning all the time and I have no doubt with the right coaching become a top quality full back.
If makes me laugh when Trinity fans say we can push for the top 4 with our budget and finish higher than who Sts Wigan Cas Wire
Added to that next season Leeds Hull FC Catalan will all be stronger
Let’s get real a top 8 finish is an achievement in its self.

The positions we really need to address are front row and half backs x 2 if Hampshire is going

With all due respect to the following
Huby way past his best
England Too injury prone
Hirst just not SL standard
Baldwinson not SL standard

Kirmond injury prone time to go and we have cover already

Miller inconsistent needs real competition for his place

Number 7 the real missing link and has being for 3 seasons

The fact is Trinity punch well above their weight every season and without stadium development that sadly I cant ever see being delivered we should enjoy what we have while it lasts because without it our super league days are over.