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| Will be interesting to see how Roby is after a high altitude game and a flight back from Denver. Run at him all day long, he’s the one who makes Saints tick.
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| Should be a good game and one I'm looking forward to.
Maybe Syrup, quite right about the high altitude game, and there could be some fatigue within the Saints players involved. That said they have had a little bit more recovery time.
I think the key is keeping Barba quiet, but then there is the test of the side.
If we play to our potential and our strengths, then we can turn them over.
I just hope we don't give them too much respect and lose heavily.
Points difference could so much he the key, come the end of the season.
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| I can't see us getting much from this one - they were finding their feet when we beat them - and now they are very much firing on all cylinders and are by far and away the best team in SL, by quite some margin.
I'd still like to see some intent though - their strengths are obvious, and Leeds made a good fist of negating them; formulaic end of set stuff that ends up with Barba, Makinson or Grace will allow them to eat up metres - we can do something about that. Their forwards are no better than ours, and they will have some players fatigued from their Denver experience, so there are things to go at.
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| I say let them worry about us 1 inch of a gap and we'll be away with the pace we have and let our forwards soften them up down the middle especially running at Roby after is trip to denver and like someone as said kick into touch every time make them play from the scrum.
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| This fatigue thing may be a bit of a red herring. Don't athletes go to train at altitude to improve endurance. When they return the England squad's lung capacity should be improved so hopefully they have managed to fill them with the airline's recycled "air".
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| Quote ="FSW"This fatigue thing may be a bit of a red herring. Don't athletes go to train at altitude to improve endurance. When they return the England squad's lung capacity should be improved so hopefully they have managed to fill them with the airline's recycled "air".'"
You need a minimum of 10 days training at altitude to get a physical benefit, so no, none of the players are coming back fitter.
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| Would have thought with jet lag etc they would be coming back fatigued.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Would have thought with jet lag etc they would be coming back fatigued.'"
Not always the case. They will have flown Business Class where they would have a full length seat/bed which is more conducive to sleep than your average peasant class seat down the back of the aircraft, plus they would have had advice/info from sports scientists etc about how to combat jet-lag, eg. when to eat, sleep drink etc.
So it may not be a major factor.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Would have thought with jet lag etc they would be coming back fatigued.'"
You can get over jet lag from the US in 2 days or less. I don't think it will be a factor.
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| Finn in the squad for Kirmond.
I'd go with same team without Kirmond.
I'd play Annakin on the bench and Finn and MCB to mods out.
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| Quote ="LyndsayGill"Not always the case. They will have flown Business Class where they would have a full length seat/bed which is more conducive to sleep than your average peasant class seat down the back of the aircraft, plus they would have had advice/info from sports scientists etc about how to combat jet-lag, eg. when to eat, sleep drink etc.
So it may not be a major factor.'"
These are young men and Rugby players, you're assuming a fair bit there - that said I can't see it being a huge issue we are talking four players?
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| Quote ="PopTart"Finn in the squad for Kirmond.
I'd go with same team without Kirmond.
I'd play Annakin on the bench and Finn and MCB to mods out.'"
I can't see Finn getting in for Kirmond unless CC has some novel strategy in mind.
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| Quote ="vastman"I can't see Finn getting in for Kirmond unless CC has some novel strategy in mind.'"
Well, expect a novel strategy. Finn is in the 19 and Kirmo is out.
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| Kirmo has a photo on Instagram wearing a hospital gown with a black arrow to his left knee, suggesting surgery.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Well, expect a novel strategy. Finn is in the 19 and Kirmo is out.'"
Yeah I know, I meant he won't be in the 17 unless there is an injury would be my instinct.
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| Quote ="vastman"Yeah I know, I meant he won't be in the 17 unless there is an injury would be my instinct.'"
I knew what you meant but, couldn't resist
Wonder if we have any doubts about Hampshire, Wood or Randell ?
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| Quote ="FSW"This fatigue thing may be a bit of a red herring. Don't athletes go to train at altitude to improve endurance. When they return the England squad's lung capacity should be improved so hopefully they have managed to fill them with the airline's recycled "air".'"
They train at high altitude to prepare for the difficulties o playing at high altitude.
One weeks train isn't going time or them quicker coming back.
It's like saying as running distance improves your fitness and endurance then playing a game after running a marathon will improve your fitness for the game.
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| Quote ="PopTart"They train at high altitude to prepare for the difficulties o playing at high altitude.
One weeks train isn't going time or them quicker coming back.
It's like saying as running distance improves your fitness and endurance then playing a game after running a marathon will improve your fitness for the game.'"
Just ask Phidippedes!
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| Is he on the other wing to Socrates
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| It was almost like receiving bad news that Finn was back. Weird.
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| No pressure game for us, if we play top of our game we have a chance. Hope we keep it tight to preserve our points difference.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Kirmo has a photo on Instagram wearing a hospital gown with a black arrow to his left knee, suggesting surgery.'"
Just watched Kirmo on rugby am says he has damaged his cartilage in his knee and is having a clean out .
When asked about getting his new 1 year contract kirmo says they told him what he was getting ,take or leave it but with a smile on his face may I add .
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| Quote ="Wakefield City"No pressure game for us, if we play top of our game we have a chance. Hope we keep it tight to preserve our points difference.
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I see that you've just opened an RL Fans account "Wakefield City", welcome to the forum.
Points difference is certainly something we should be mindful of should we not be able to magic a double over the Saints.
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| Annakin and Finn to play and Chester also indicated MCB as well
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Annakin and Finn to play and Chester also indicated MCB as well'"
If Finn plays it definitely sends out the wrong message for me. Besides I would've thought Catalans is a better game to bring him back in unless Chester sees the Saints game as a bonus win and might as well get Finn some match fitness back.
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