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| Quote ="financialtimes"Quote ="Theboyem"Question does have to be asked though, why haven't they yet submitted the S106 agreement? Whats the delay?'"
The section 106 has been submitted, it just hadn't been submitted at the time of the initial letter (20th June) the 106 was submited on time and completed it just wasn't submitted at the time of the SoS inital approval of planning permision (which was subject to a full section 106 being submitted) so nowt to worry about here, just a straw cluching moment from cas fans
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Just saying.'"
Exactly what I thought when I was reading it, they're replying to a letter on the 20th June. |
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The letter looks to be genuine but, as yet, I personally haven't received it via e-mail although it may have come in the post this morning but that generally comes after I leave home. This is what happened last time but the e-mail also came through the same morning.
I am ever more convinced that Townvilletiger is Mr Cubbage who spoke at the Inquiry and had his evidence dismissed by the Inspector. Whom ever the poster is, they clearly either spoke at the inquiry or are close to someone who did if they have got hold of this letter/e-mail. As there were not that many of them, then it is my guess it is probably Mr Cubbage. I do think whomever Townvilletiger is, they should stop being a coward and stop hiding behind a username and come clean about who they really are! They are continuing to make personal & untrue allegations about me and questioning my motives and character without any evidence or foundation. My identity is common knowledge and if they have a problem with me they should have the balls to come out and (metaphorically) put these allegations to me directly. Can someone post this on Cas Forum for me please and tell Townvilletiger to reveal their true identity to me via the Residents for Newmarket E-mail ( residentsfornewmarket@gmail.com) address and I will be happy to meet them face to face.
We were told exactly what I posted, that all documentation has been submitted to the SoS to deadline. I think we need to be a little careful here, because we never asked directly if the section 106 had been submitted signed or either told directly that it had. I actually expected that they would have submitted all their paperwork, which they said they did, and that would have included their proposed section 106 document for discussion and then further discussions will have taken place between the SoS officers and Yorkcourt to get the agreement signed and finalised prior to 13th September. It would appear that a section 106 has not yet been finalised and signed, but equally the SoS office clearly expecting that it will be resolved, otherwise they would have just pulled the plug on the planning.
We will now make some enquires and ask Yorkcourt if they are willing to share with us their side of the story and let us have some more information about why they have been unable to agree and sign a section 106 agreement to date. I am sure that there are very good and clear reasons this hasn't been sorted yet and hope they are able to share the reasons with us.
I am not overly worried at this stage because it would appear the SoS officers are expecting this to be resolved and there could be a million reasons it hasn't.
Yorkcourt have spent a fair sum of money to get to this stage and I don't think they are going to fall at the last hurdle. |
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The letter looks to be genuine but, as yet, I personally haven't received it via e-mail although it may have come in the post this morning but that generally comes after I leave home. This is what happened last time but the e-mail also came through the same morning.
I am ever more convinced that Townvilletiger is Mr Cubbage who spoke at the Inquiry and had his evidence dismissed by the Inspector. Whom ever the poster is, they clearly either spoke at the inquiry or are close to someone who did if they have got hold of this letter/e-mail. As there were not that many of them, then it is my guess it is probably Mr Cubbage. I do think whomever Townvilletiger is, they should stop being a coward and stop hiding behind a username and come clean about who they really are! They are continuing to make personal & untrue allegations about me and questioning my motives and character without any evidence or foundation. My identity is common knowledge and if they have a problem with me they should have the balls to come out and (metaphorically) put these allegations to me directly. Can someone post this on Cas Forum for me please and tell Townvilletiger to reveal their true identity to me via the Residents for Newmarket E-mail ( residentsfornewmarket@gmail.com) address and I will be happy to meet them face to face.
We were told exactly what I posted, that all documentation has been submitted to the SoS to deadline. I think we need to be a little careful here, because we never asked directly if the section 106 had been submitted signed or either told directly that it had. I actually expected that they would have submitted all their paperwork, which they said they did, and that would have included their proposed section 106 document for discussion and then further discussions will have taken place between the SoS officers and Yorkcourt to get the agreement signed and finalised prior to 13th September. It would appear that a section 106 has not yet been finalised and signed, but equally the SoS office clearly expecting that it will be resolved, otherwise they would have just pulled the plug on the planning.
We will now make some enquires and ask Yorkcourt if they are willing to share with us their side of the story and let us have some more information about why they have been unable to agree and sign a section 106 agreement to date. I am sure that there are very good and clear reasons this hasn't been sorted yet and hope they are able to share the reasons with us.
I am not overly worried at this stage because it would appear the SoS officers are expecting this to be resolved and there could be a million reasons it hasn't.
Yorkcourt have spent a fair sum of money to get to this stage and I don't think they are going to fall at the last hurdle. | |
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[iBTW, this was sent on the 11th September so no clutching at straws here:
From: Michael Taylor
Sent: 11 September 2012 14:29
To: ***
Cc: ***
Subject: Called-in planning application - Land adjacent to Newmarket Colliery, Rothwell, Wakefield[/i
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Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"The letter looks to be genuine but, as yet, I personally haven't received it via e-mail although it may have come in the post this morning but that generally comes after I leave home. This is what happened last time but the e-mail also came through the same morning.
I am ever more convinced that Townvilletiger is Mr Cubbage who spoke at the Inquiry and had his evidence dismissed by the Inspector. Whom ever the poster is, they clearly either spoke at the inquiry or are close to someone who did if they have got hold of this letter/e-mail. As there were not that many of them, then it is my guess it is probably Mr Cubbage. I do think whomever Townvilletiger is, they should stop being a coward and stop hiding behind a username and come clean about who they really are! They are continuing to make personal & untrue allegations about me and questioning my motives and character without any evidence or foundation. My identity is common knowledge and if they have a problem with me they should have the balls to come out and (metaphorically) put these allegations to me directly. Can someone post this on Cas Forum for me please and tell Townvilletiger to reveal their true identity to me via the Residents for Newmarket E-mail (residentsfornewmarket@gmail.com) address and I will be happy to meet them face to face.
We were told exactly what I posted, that all documentation has been submitted to the SoS to deadline. I think we need to be a little careful here, because we never asked directly if the section 106 had been submitted signed or either told directly that it had. I actually expected that they would have submitted all their paperwork, which they said they did, and that would have included their proposed section 106 document for discussion and then further discussions will have taken place between the SoS officers and Yorkcourt to get the agreement signed and finalised prior to 13th September. It would appear that a section 106 has not yet been finalised and signed, but equally the SoS office clearly expecting that it will be resolved, otherwise they would have just pulled the plug on the planning.
We will now make some enquires and ask Yorkcourt if they are willing to share with us their side of the story and let us have some more information about why they have been unable to agree and sign a section 106 agreement to date. I am sure that there are very good and clear reasons this hasn't been sorted yet and hope they are able to share the reasons with us.
I am not overly worried at this stage because it would appear the SoS officers are expecting this to be resolved and there could be a million reasons it hasn't.
Yorkcourt have spent a fair sum of money to get to this stage and I don't think they are going to fall at the last hurdle.'"
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Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"The letter looks to be genuine but, as yet, I personally haven't received it via e-mail although it may have come in the post this morning but that generally comes after I leave home. This is what happened last time but the e-mail also came through the same morning.
I am ever more convinced that Townvilletiger is Mr Cubbage who spoke at the Inquiry and had his evidence dismissed by the Inspector. Whom ever the poster is, they clearly either spoke at the inquiry or are close to someone who did if they have got hold of this letter/e-mail. As there were not that many of them, then it is my guess it is probably Mr Cubbage. I do think whomever Townvilletiger is, they should stop being a coward and stop hiding behind a username and come clean about who they really are! They are continuing to make personal & untrue allegations about me and questioning my motives and character without any evidence or foundation. My identity is common knowledge and if they have a problem with me they should have the balls to come out and (metaphorically) put these allegations to me directly. Can someone post this on Cas Forum for me please and tell Townvilletiger to reveal their true identity to me via the Residents for Newmarket E-mail (residentsfornewmarket@gmail.com) address and I will be happy to meet them face to face.
We were told exactly what I posted, that all documentation has been submitted to the SoS to deadline. I think we need to be a little careful here, because we never asked directly if the section 106 had been submitted signed or either told directly that it had. I actually expected that they would have submitted all their paperwork, which they said they did, and that would have included their proposed section 106 document for discussion and then further discussions will have taken place between the SoS officers and Yorkcourt to get the agreement signed and finalised prior to 13th September. It would appear that a section 106 has not yet been finalised and signed, but equally the SoS office clearly expecting that it will be resolved, otherwise they would have just pulled the plug on the planning.
We will now make some enquires and ask Yorkcourt if they are willing to share with us their side of the story and let us have some more information about why they have been unable to agree and sign a section 106 agreement to date. I am sure that there are very good and clear reasons this hasn't been sorted yet and hope they are able to share the reasons with us.
I am not overly worried at this stage because it would appear the SoS officers are expecting this to be resolved and there could be a million reasons it hasn't.
Yorkcourt have spent a fair sum of money to get to this stage and I don't think they are going to fall at the last hurdle.'"
Get YCP asked and let us know what they say mate. I'll copy this and stick it on their forum. | |
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[iBTW, this was sent on the 11th September so no clutching at straws here:
From: Michael Taylor
Sent: 11 September 2012 14:29
To: ***
Cc: ***
Subject: Called-in planning application - Land adjacent to Newmarket Colliery, Rothwell, Wakefield[/i'"
Like I said, I haven't got this e-mail/letter yet and suspect that TRB hasn't either or he would have phoned me.
I have just e-mailed Michael Taylor explaining that someone has posted and e-mail, supposedly from him, on a public forum and asked him to confirm the nature of this e-mail and whom it has been sent to.
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Reply e-mail from Michael Taylor
Mr Stone
Thank you for this e-mail. A copy of my e-mail of 11 September was sent to the appellant's agents (Gateley LLP), Leeds City Council, Wakefield Council and Methley Residents Association.
All other parties will be notified of the decision once it is issued. I apologise for the delay in reaching a decision.
Michael Taylor
Planning Casework Division
Department for Communities and Local Government
1/H1, Eland House
Bressenden Place
London, SW1E 5DU
So it was only sent to those parties. Not sure why Methley Residents Association got sent a copy, as all the rest are rule 6 parties. I wonder if they have been chasing Michael Taylor for information.
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Ok so if that was issued yesterday, the next email needs to be sent to Yorkcourt???
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| Quote ="financialtimes"The section 106 has been submitted, it just hadn't been submitted at the time of the initial letter (20th June) the 106 was submited on time and completed it just wasn't submitted at the time of the SoS inital approval of planning permision (which was subject to a full section 106 being submitted) so nowt to worry about here, just a straw cluching moment from cas fans
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No for some reason Yorkcourt have yet to sign an agreed s106. As to why that is, its a question Mr Mackie needs to answer pdq. There is no reason not to have had this sorted by now other than they are unhappy with the terms of it, but without it the development cannot proceed. I think a little honesty is in order from Yorkcourt on this over why people were lead to believe all documents had been submitted when clearly that isn't the case. |
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I've just got an email saying something similar I assume because I attended the hearing as well.
So the email is out there.
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Further to Pamela Robert's letter of 20 June on the above, you will wish to know that the Secretary of State will not issue a decision on this case on the previously notified date of 13 September. This is because we have yet to receive a completed copy of a s106 planning obligation from the appellants. We are however assured by the appellants that a completed document will be sent to us very soon. We will allow further time for taking a final decision to allow for receipt of that document.
We will issue a decision as soon as possible. Please accept our apologies for the delay in deciding this case.
Michael Taylor
Planning Casework Division
Department for Communities and Local Government
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I spoke at the Inquiry and I've just received the following e-mail:
[iDear Sir/Madam
Further to Pamela Robert's letter of 20 June on the above, you will wish to know that the Secretary of State will not issue a decision on this case on the previously notified date of 13 September. This is because we have yet to receive a completed copy of a s106 planning obligation from the appellants. We are however assured by the appellants that a completed document will be sent to us very soon. We will allow further time for taking a final decision to allow for receipt of that document.
We will issue a decision as soon as possible. Please accept our apologies for the delay in deciding this case.
Michael Taylor
Planning Casework Division
Department for Communities and Local Government
1/H1, Eland House
Bressenden Place
London, SW1E 5DU
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It looks like IA's e-mail has prompted all who spoke or asked to be informed to have the above sent to them.
I would not get unduly worried. Delays are common in development and the e-mail states that they have been assured that they will receive the completed document shortly.
If some people are hoping that Newmarket will not receive consent then they are clutching at straws, its just going to be a bit longer.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"We were told exactly what I posted, that all documentation has been submitted to the SoS to deadline. I think we need to be a little careful here, because we never asked directly if the section 106 had been submitted signed or either told directly that it had. I actually expected that they would have submitted all their paperwork, which they said they did, and that would have included their proposed section 106 document for discussion and then further discussions will have taken place between the SoS officers and Yorkcourt to get the agreement signed and finalised prior to 13th September.'"
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"I spoke at the Inquiry and I've just received the following e-mail:
[iDear Sir/Madam
Further to Pamela Robert's letter of 20 June on the above, you will wish to know that the Secretary of State will not issue a decision on this case on the previously notified date of 13 September. This is because we have yet to receive a completed copy of a s106 planning obligation from the appellants. We are however assured by the appellants that a completed document will be sent to us very soon. We will allow further time for taking a final decision to allow for receipt of that document.
We will issue a decision as soon as possible. Please accept our apologies for the delay in deciding this case.
Michael Taylor
Planning Casework Division
Department for Communities and Local Government
1/H1, Eland House
Bressenden Place
London, SW1E 5DU
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It looks like IA's e-mail has prompted all who spoke or asked to be informed to have the above sent to them.
I would not get unduly worried. Delays are common in development and the e-mail states that they have been assured that they will receive the completed document shortly.
If some people are hoping that Newmarket will not receive consent then they are clutching at straws, its just going to be a bit longer.'"
I’ve no doubt the development will get consent, my concern is when the stadium will get built. There can’t be too much to negotiate between the Council and the Developer other than when the stadium construction commences. |
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Bit of a politicians answer from YC, after all it is the S106 that the develop hangs on. If it’s not been sorted after nearly 2 years then I find that worrying.'"
Section 106 Agreements are often the subject of negotiation. The Council want it "gold plated" the appellant wants to "bronze plate" it and after negotiations agreement is reached to "silver plate" it. Happens all the time.
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Please people, don't panic, just have a bit more patience.'"
SC, does it usually take two years? I suppose in normal circumstances the time isn’t such an important factor, however with an imposed deadline hanging over one of the main tenants of the development it should expedite matters a little. |
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A reply posted on that forum again, no idea who El Capitan is. I've including the quote he/she is replying to as both the desperation of it to fail and the reply made me chuckle.
Postby El Capitan » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:56 pm
[iTigerwood posse wrote:I think its high time insatiable i'maDILDO stopped trying to be such a "big I'AM" and realise that this stadium is NEVER going to happen!! no money to build it and no requirement for for the units around it........its a dead duck and when it does fail i will laugh my PENIS off!!! go STICK YOUR WOODEN SPOONS WHERE THE SUN DONT SHINE!!!!! |
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