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| Quote ="bren2k"I can't agree on that point; a cosy group of mates at the top level of any organisation is most definitely a BAD thing. That group needs to challenge and disagree with each other, and be able to constructively criticise the things that the others are doing. Very difficult and uncomfortable things to do with the bloke who'll be at your barby on Sat night.
If JE has been banging the drum for Agar since the process started, he's taking a big risk.'"
Don't fully agree with you on this one, obviously there are exceptions but I was in business with my best friend for over a decade and sure there's ups and downs but as long as your both mature enough, intelligent and honest it can be a very healthy working environment. If anything you can be more honest with someone you know and talk a lot straighter.
At the end of the day as long as Agar is the best candidate out of those that have been interviewed, there's not a lot more any of us can say, they've obviously been through the correct process and by the sounds of it had guys in front of Agar, who have chosen to go else where.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Don't fully agree with you on this one, obviously there are exceptions but I was in business with my best friend for over a decade and sure there's ups and downs but as long as your both mature enough, intelligent and honest it can be a very healthy working environment. If anything you can be more honest with someone you know and talk a lot straighter.
At the end of the day as long as Agar is the best candidate out of those that have been interviewed, there's not a lot more any of us can say, they've obviously been through the correct process and by the sounds had guys in front of Agar but we are where we are.'"
Fair comments on both points - maybe it's time for a reality check for many people, myself included.
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| There are times when I see/hear fellow Hull fans do/say things that really make me grimace and hope nobody tars me with the same brush.
As for Agar, I'm another who thinks the change could do him good. I think he was promoted beyond his ability, but as said he did a good job of clearing out deadwood and his recruitment has included some very good signings for us. Also, this season we have started to play much better stuff. He does seem to have improved during his tenure, and may well do so in his next job wherever that may be. He should also have learned a lot from his time at Hull. I also genuinely believe that he does everything he can that he thinks is for the good of the club and works very hard.
The biggest problems I think he has are his interchanges, his reluctance to give youth a go, inability/refusal to change tactics mid-game, and persistent failure against the top teams. He needs to fix a couple of those in the near future to do a good job for you IMO. If money continues to be tight for you he'll probably be forced into promoting youth at least.
If he did come to you I reckon what he would do would be similar to what he did with us (at least initially); get you winning the games you 'should', but not producing any shocks. I wouldn't bank on any cup runs with him, though. I think he'd maybe get you back to the fringes of the playoffs, but then you might need someone else to kick on further, as we are trying to do.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Don't worry too much - we all have our divots.'"
Afraid that guy is a trench not a divot.
Agar will do OK at Wakefield. As another fan said a change will do him good. He got Hull to a CC final and has a very good knowledge of young talent in the British game. Hope he goes well for you.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Afraid that guy is a trench not a divot.
Agar will do OK at Wakefield. As another fan said a change will do him good. He got Hull to a CC final and has a very good knowledge of young talent in the British game. Hope he goes well for you.'"
It's nice to see some balanced views - cheers for that, and the poster above.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"The biggest problems I think he has are his interchanges, his reluctance to give youth a go, inability/refusal to change tactics mid-game, and persistent failure against the top teams.'"
That has a familiar ring to it.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"That's your new coach's fault. I hope you enjoy him. 3 year deal I'm hearing. He's bringing some deadwood players with him too'"
You would know your boarf ha=ve been prolific at bringing deadwood to Hull theres better drifywood in the Humber.
I see Pearson is akin to a god on Humberside and the saviour of Hull FC, well he did a great job at City gone bust and relegated.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"You would know your boarf ha=ve been prolific at bringing deadwood to Hull theres better drifywood in the Humber.
I see Pearson is akin to a god on Humberside and the saviour of Hull FC, well he did a great job at City gone bust and relegated.'"
If your going to slag someone off (i.e. Pearson) then you need to get your facts right, Duffen and Bartlett owned City when they got relegated and on the verge of going bust, Adam Pearson was brought back into the club to sort out the debt problem and get new owners, both of which he has done.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"That has a familiar ring to it.'"
Except for the failure against top teams and beating the ones we expect to. It's been more the other way around I reckon
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| Quote ="Schunter"Except for the failure against top teams and beating the ones we expect to. It's been more the other way around I reckon'"
Yes, fair point.
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| agars card was marked from day one!.there has been a non stop agar out protest since he took the head coaches job.most of it unjustified in my opinion.he,s had alot to deal with at hull.injuries/disciplinary issues/moaning fans.and im sure he will come thru this a wiser /stronger/better coach if he does come your way i hope he,s treated with more respect than a lot of hull fans gave him...
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"You would know your boarf ha=ve been prolific at bringing deadwood to Hull theres better drifywood in the Humber.
I see Pearson is akin to a god on Humberside and the saviour of Hull FC, well he did a great job at City gone bust and relegated.'"
Have a look at what he has done for Hull City in his 2 spells at the club and you'll understand why he's so highly regarded.
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| Quote ="robert johnson"[Agars card was marked from day one!.'"
You are right,I was underwhelmed at the time,but in fairness thought I would give him a chance.After 4 years of dross and disappointment I think that chance has gone as far as I am concerned.Not saying he wont do a job elswhere,but I am pleased it is no longer at Hull.
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| Quote ="Greavsie"If your going to slag someone off (i.e. Pearson) then you need to get your facts right, Duffen and Bartlett owned City when they got relegated and on the verge of going bust, Adam Pearson was brought back into the club to sort out the debt problem and get new owners, both of which he has done.'"
So Hull City are debt free? good on him if they are
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"So Hull City are debt free? good on him if they are'"
Bound to be now they have sold Bullard.
Anyhow ,lets not get sidetracked by wendyball.
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| Having been to Hull many times, I can say with confidence that just getting out of there will have RA walking on air - he'll be a changed man.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Having been to Hull many times, I can say with confidence that just getting out of there will have RA walking on air - he'll be a changed man.'"
Why?,Hull is no better or worse than Wakefield in parts, and yes I have been to Wakey many times before you ask.
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| Think it may have been more a reference to having the weight lifted off his shoulders due to the constant barage of abuse he gets from many supporters over there. Thats the way i look at it anyway. He may get abuse over here but there aren't as many of us as you lol. He'll get my backing if he has got the job as will any other coach
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Think it may have been more a reference to having the weight lifted off his shoulders due to the constant barage of abuse he gets from many supporters over there. Thats the way i look at it anyway. He may get abuse over here but there aren't as many of us as you lol. He'll get my backing if he has got the job as will any other coach'"
You could be right,I may have got the wrong end of the stick.It just annoys me when some on these forums do revert to knocking a town or city when they have nothing more constructive to say.If I got it wrong I apologise to said bren2k.
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| Quote ="barton baird"You could be right,I may have got the wrong end of the stick.It just annoys me when some on these forums do revert to knocking a town or city when they have nothing more constructive to say.If I got it wrong I apologise to said bren2k.'"
No need to apologise - I was actually referring to the fact that Hull is a soul-destroying, depressing hole.
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| Quote ="bren2k"No need to apologise - I was actually referring to the fact that Hull is a soul-destroying, depressing hole.
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| With Hulls reputation I'll be honest, Ive been there plenty of times through both rugby and when I was in the Horse Racing circles. And Ive enjoyed it and never had any problems there... apart from the time all our cars got broke into outside the Boulevard when we parked there after a supporters game before venturing over to the KC.
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| Quote ="bren2k"No need to apologise - I was actually referring to the fact that Hull is a soul-destroying, depressing hole.
Expect a ban anytime soon for bypassing the swear filter you naughty girl, still very true, the delights of Hull such as Gipsyville and not to mention the picturesque Holderness rd.
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