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| It's heard on that day and should be settled then, it's only in extreme circumstances it will be carried on.
Although I don't really foresee any problems. If the club are currently keeping up with existing payments then another arrangement will be made. So one effect we will probably see is a tightening of the playing budget for next season"living within the means". You never know it's a bit like when JK first arrived, written off, favorites for the bottom, we may find that old spirit back and give the old girl a good send off. Thing is if we do start winning with a shoestring team then the coffers and spirits will look a little rosier.
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| Quote ="Green Greedo"2 days ago I became aware of the real reason Danny Kirmond didn't play against Salford,
He was due to play and Wakefield asked for him to be released as they couldn't afford to pay him for the remainder of his loan spell.
Apparently we had a deal until the end of the play-offs with the player and a wage of something near £10k was stated to which we had no funding to complete this deal.
This is no rumour mongering as it came direct from a good friend that is a senior coach at the Giants.
Read into what you want with regarding no recruitment and letting players go plus the clubs offer to be sold etc.
Think because of no play-off money etc wev'e hit another crisis regarding funding and is it why the players have not been performing with regards payments.'" load of rubbish. danny was recalled and if he hadn't have been it would have been a good move by the club when he is not needed to save us paying his wages. the last i earned he was having a good moan because they hadn't played him against the french when he could have gone out mad monday with all the rest of the boys from wakey. straight from the horses mouth. danny had a great time at wakey, really enjoyed it and has nothing but good to say about the place. sorry if this disappoints you
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| Maybe if the OPP for the Stadium had been heard and passed, this would not be seen as such a big issue, why it has been set for 22 October when it originally went in in Feb and was due to be heard in Sept is also a cause for concern. Maybe Cllr Box was aware of our issues with the tax man and thought that by it being set back still further, this might finally kill us off.
The other concern is what happens to people like me who have paid up front for a season ticket? If the club is wound up I presume we can kiss goodbye to our money? I also suspect that this is yet another reason why some fans will not be in a rush to renew their season tickets at the moment (afterall, you would be worried about loosing the cash).
The fact the club knew about this issue in July but have started selling tickets for next year, does not seem quite right to me.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Maybe if the OPP for the Stadium had been heard and passed, this would not be seen as such a big issue, why it has been set for 22 October when it originally went in in Feb and was due to be heard in Sept is also a cause for concern. Maybe Cllr Box was aware of our issues with the tax man and thought that by it being set back still further, this might finally kill us off.
The other concern is what happens to people like me who have paid up front for a season ticket? If the club is wound up I presume we can kiss goodbye to our money? I also suspect that this is yet another reason why some fans will not be in a rush to renew their season tickets at the moment (afterall, you would be worried about loosing the cash).
=#FF0000The fact the club knew about this issue in July but have started selling tickets for next year, does not seem quite right to me.'"
correct,
in light of the news that has come to light I'm going to hold back to the maximum date which is 30th Sept before thinking of splashing out £350 for a family season ticket,
this once happened to me before in purchasing a suite, I payed cash on the Sat only for a news announcement to be made on the Mon that the store had gone into receivership,
I still got my goods but it was poorly served, this taught me to use visa as you are covered to claim for instances like this,
it gives me no pleasure in not helping the club in their hour of need, but I am ready to watch unknown players at the same price rather than the ones we have had holding their hand out sapping the club dry and then putting in inept performances
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| im a little worried about buying a season ticket now
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| Quote ="nicksapheno"im a little worried about buying a season ticket now'"
This is exactly my point and I don't blame you. The problem for the club is they may in some respects be relying on the early ticket money to keep going.
It should never have come to this. More prudence was required after last years close shave and the sale of Ryan Atkins to cover the debt.
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| Quote ="snowie"correct,
in light of the news that has come to light I'm going to hold back to the maximum date which is 30th Sept before thinking of splashing out £350 for a family season ticket,
=#BF0040this once happened to me before in purchasing a suite, I payed cash on the Sat only for a news announcement to be made on the Mon that the store had gone into receivership,
I still got my goods but it was poorly served, this taught me to use visa as you are covered to claim for instances like this,
it gives me no pleasure in not helping the club in their hour of need, but I am ready to watch unknown players at the same price rather than the ones we have had holding their hand out sapping the club dry and then putting in inept performances'"
So your passion for the club is equivalent to that for your settee?
You will still get your goods - just as you did last time. And if it helps - pay with your visa!
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| Watched Fev on the box last night - it was great to see a team playing with passion and pride, and no small amount of skill as well. Well done Fev.
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| Quote ="cool4kats"load of rubbish. danny was recalled and if he hadn't have been it would have been a good move by the club when he is not needed to save us paying his wages. the last i earned he was having a good moan because they hadn't played him against the french when he could have gone out mad monday with all the rest of the boys from wakey. straight from the horses mouth. danny had a great time at wakey, really enjoyed it and has nothing but good to say about the place. sorry if this disappoints you'"
Where oh where did I say he didn't enjoy his time at Wakefield.
Oh wait a minute NOWHERE!
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Quote ="SD1"You can contact me. My name is Laura Harrison and I'm the Rugby League Supporters Trusts Development Officer for Supporters Direct on laura.harrison@supporters-direct.org
Or you can register for our first ever rugby league conference on October 9th at The George Hotel, Huddersfield. More details at [urlhttp://www.supporters-direct.org/events/item.asp?e=2553[/url where you can find out more about what SD does, what supporters trusts do and how you can get involved yourself. Oh and there's also an opportunity to quiz people from the RFL, MPs and personalities from the game on their views.
Or both!'"
Thanks for your reply.
I'm going to that conference to find out for myself what the options are around Supporters Trusts; watch this space!
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Or you can register for our first ever rugby league conference on October 9th at The George Hotel, Huddersfield. More details at [urlhttp://www.supporters-direct.org/events/item.asp?e=2553[/url where you can find out more about what SD does, what supporters trusts do and how you can get involved yourself. Oh and there's also an opportunity to quiz people from the RFL, MPs and personalities from the game on their views.
Or both!'"
Thanks for your reply.
I'm going to that conference to find out for myself what the options are around Supporters Trusts; watch this space!
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| I will buy a season ticket but I am disgusted with how the club is run
It is a shambles from top to bottom. I pray for the day when Ted Richardson and his equally incompetent family bugger off. I am stick to the back teeth with the club being run like a WMC. I would doubt if they could run my ebay account let alone a professional sports club.
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| Quote ="wakeyrule"Watched Fev on the box last night - it was great to see a team playing with passion and pride, and no small amount of skill as well. Well done Fev.'"
yes well done fev, backed by a commited coach.
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| Although we may not end up being the last sporting club to find ourselves in this position, and remembering all this hoohah last time we found ourselves on the sticky end of HMRC and we're still here, it does look a pretty poor way to run a SL club/business and being as unbiased as I can be, I can see more reasons to having a progresive NL1 club with little evidence of financial incompitence, in SL than us.
It is pretty embarassing!
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| Why would we waste our money paying kirmond another penny when we cant do anything in the table it would be like throwing it away i agree with ted here if these rumours are true.
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| People are quick to jump down the throat of any Wakey fan who brings bad news like this on the forum, but there is something to be said for it being out in the open. Even if it is only a rumour, it seems to be going round in strength - the version I was given, coming from officials amongst the two clubs playing last night, were clearly circulating around others within the game. I pondered the worth of posting over it, knowing the reaction it might get and the difficultly of holding a reasoned discussion over it. As it was, being busy took that out of my hands. Now the following paragraph may be largely my speculation, on a topic I'd ideally never have to discuss concerning the club I've supported all my life, but if doing so on something that is clearly out in the open leads to people hearing different sides of the story and perhaps even getting nearer the truth, I personally would rather be able to discuss it.
For what it is worth, administration was mentioned. If so, it doesn't have to be all a bad thing for the club; these things have been done in the past with sports teams and businesses alike to allow a takeover on more advantageous terms. Unhappy creditors yes, but not what I'm on here to consider. The issue of course would be the RFL allowing such a move, although precedent of a kind has been set.
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| Quote ="bloomers"People are quick to jump down the throat of any Wakey fan who brings bad news like this on the forum, but there is something to be said for it being out in the open. Even if it is only a rumour, it seems to be going round in strength - the version I was given, coming from officials amongst the two clubs playing last night, were clearly circulating around others within the game. I pondered the worth of posting over it, knowing the reaction it might get and the difficultly of holding a reasoned discussion over it. As it was, being busy took that out of my hands. Now the following paragraph may be largely my speculation, on a topic I'd ideally never have to discuss concerning the club I've supported all my life, but if doing so on something that is clearly out in the open leads to people hearing different sides of the story and perhaps even getting nearer the truth, I personally would rather be able to discuss it.
For what it is worth, administration was mentioned. If so, it doesn't have to be all a bad thing for the club; these things have been done in the past with sports teams and businesses alike to allow a takeover on more advantageous terms. Unhappy creditors yes, but not what I'm on here to consider. The issue of course would be the RFL allowing such a move, although precedent of a kind has been set.'"
administration would be a good thing imho for the future of wakefield rl, it would allow a clean start and a new b.o.d to get the club on a sound footing,the downside would of course mean no franchise next time but who`s to say thats not already the case.
has a fan of lufc i thought it was the end of the football world when this samething happend but after a few years down the club has fought back and is now in good shape something i would never have said 5 years ago,what the fans did was stick together and enjoy the new challenge the same has cas did in their 2 relegated years and has a fan they were good years.
has the above post says administration will have positves.
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| We owe the tax man, I'm not aware of any other creditors.
As I have said earlier we have money coming in that will more than pay the tax man but unfortunately not until after the the High Court hearing. We worked out a payment plan last time and I see no reason why we should not again.
Administration is not an option to me. We will immediately lose our SL status and if that happens there will be no chance of a return and I guess then there will be no chance of new investors.
Its going to be a difficult few weeks but whilst I'm not the most optimistic of people I think we will come through this. With the prospect of a new ground it will be easier to "sell" the Club to new investors because Ted certainly wants out and to become just a fan like us on here.
Keep the faith but remember that the longest journey has to start with a small step.
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| Administration wouldn't be the cure-all that it was for Leeds United, as they can play their way back up. We can't. We would be dependent on a committee to allow us back in, which would never happen, because we won't be the only club with a shiny new ground.
The problem with things said by people outside of the club is that speculation of possibilities soon become confirmation of likelihoods, and I prefer Sandal Cat's version, and I think he would be more likely to know.
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| its looking bad.
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| Quote ="padraic"its looking bad.'"
Bad but not terminal.
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| I think there nay be too many financial problems already which means we wont get a franchise so on this basis if we do go into administrtion it may not be the worse thing in the world however at the moment i don't want it to happen.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"I think there nay be too many financial problems already which means we wont get a franchise so on this basis if we do go into administrtion it may not be the worse thing in the world however at the moment i don't want it to happen.'"
It sounds to me like you are trying to make yourself feel better, and I don't blame you. I would be the same. But if you guys go into administration you can kiss good bye to super league. If you do go down I can't see any of the championship clubs putting in a better application next tme round. You just have to stick by your club. I am a Cas fan, I know all about it.
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