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| Quote ="homme vaste"For me this is how i see the two sides -
Pack - Evenly matched throughout, if Fifita does not play (Which does not look likely as he is not in the 19) I think they might just have the slight edge here, they seem well oiled and sing of the same hymn sheet - Moors and Millington seem to get a bit of a role on, Massey is average but he is a workhorse. I don`t really rate Springer or Green though. The second row looks pretty evenly matched, Cook was brilliant in the first half last week at Leeds, Ashurst always stands up well.. Horo has to be better this week although he has already shown he is a workhorse in defense.
Backs - Centres are a hand full in Webster and Shenton, we know Bill has been playing really well, he is a threat in attack and holds his own in defence - Depending on whether we go with Lynne or Arundel isn`t it? Arundel i think is better at putting his winger away and solid in defence, Lynne on his day can carve defences up and gives us big threat.
For me were we have the advantage is on the wings, we have two of the fastest wingers in the league and two of the best in the air! On the other hand Minikin seems weak under the high ball and him and James Clare are not the fastest, if we can break them on the wings we could very well score a few tries on the flanks.
Fullback is an uncertainty for them, Roberts is prone to an error and Truman is inexperienced and his confidence will take a knock if we preassure him right from the off. Where as in my eyes with Grix we have one of the safest pair of hands in the league.
We need to target there weaknesses right from the off and try and give them very little time on the ball right from the off to have a chance of getting the result tonight. Easier said than done i know!'"
I don't think the pack is evenly matched. We have bigged our pack up this season and although in terms of weight and size it probably is equally the largest, when we don't have Fifita we lack drive, tackle busts and winning the ruck. Castleford have beaten our pack every game I've seen us play them since I can remember.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"For me this is how i see the two sides -
Pack - Evenly matched throughout, if Fifita does not play (Which does not look likely as he is not in the 19) I think they might just have the slight edge here, they seem well oiled and sing of the same hymn sheet - Moors and Millington seem to get a bit of a role on, Massey is average but he is a workhorse. I don`t really rate Springer or Green though. The second row looks pretty evenly matched, Cook was brilliant in the first half last week at Leeds, Ashurst always stands up well.. Horo has to be better this week although he has already shown he is a workhorse in defense.
Backs - Centres are a hand full in Webster and Shenton, we know Bill has been playing really well, he is a threat in attack and holds his own in defence - Depending on whether we go with Lynne or Arundel isn`t it? Arundel i think is better at putting his winger away and solid in defence, Lynne on his day can carve defences up and gives us big threat.
For me were we have the advantage is on the wings, we have two of the fastest wingers in the league and two of the best in the air! On the other hand Minikin seems weak under the high ball and him and James Clare are not the fastest, if we can break them on the wings we could very well score a few tries on the flanks.
Fullback is an uncertainty for them, Roberts is prone to an error and Truman is inexperienced and his confidence will take a knock if we preassure him right from the off. Where as in my eyes with Grix we have one of the safest pair of hands in the league.
We need to target there weaknesses right from the off and try and give them very little time on the ball right from the off to have a chance of getting the result tonight. Easier said than done i know!'"
I agree wholeheartedly which is why it is bemusing we never kick for them to try and attack the ball on the opponent's try line. It is one part of our game that infuriates me. Johnstone must be one of the best leapers for the ball I have seen and we never bloody kick it high for him to catch or if we do the kick is far too deep for him to do anything with.
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"I don't think the pack is evenly matched. We have bigged our pack up this season and although in terms of weight and size it probably is equally the largest, when we don't have Fifita we lack drive, tackle busts and winning the ruck. Castleford have beaten our pack every game I've seen us play them since I can remember.'"
Cas are missing a few from the pack though, probably most notably JSL who for me is on par with Moors as their best forward, as i said though as it is i think they edge it in the pack slightly.
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"I agree wholeheartedly which is why it is bemusing we never kick for them to try and attack the ball on the opponent's try line. It is one part of our game that infuriates me. Johnstone must be one of the best leapers for the ball I have seen and we never bloody kick it high for him to catch or if we do the kick is far too deep for him to do anything with.'"
Agreed we don`t utilise them anywhere near enough as we should do, beggars belief really when you look at how poor our last tackle plays are 15/20 meters out..
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"I agree wholeheartedly which is why it is bemusing we never kick for them to try and attack the ball on the opponent's try line. It is one part of our game that infuriates me. Johnstone must be one of the best leapers for the ball I have seen and we never bloody kick it high for him to catch or if we do the kick is far too deep for him to do anything with.'"
I would hope that we will be putting their FB and wingers under some kick pressure tonight as it does seem to be their Achilles heel at the moment. Looking forward to the game, always enjoy our derby games both at home and at Cas.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I don't think you need to do a match up, head to head, for each team. It's generally Moors, Millington and Gale who do the damage against us. The rest can just hang onto their coat tails if they feel like it.
If BJB plays I hope he cuts out the usual attempted interceptions. Missing and giving the wing man a free run or knocking down for another set of 6 is the last thing we need on tackle 5 or 6!'"
Just a bit of defence on behalf of BJB,I think most wingers are coached to attack the centre when defending and the FB should hopefully be following the ball and gets over to the winger, so he maybe following orders....maybe.
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| Surprise surprise. Fafita plays as I said he would a few days ago. You did the exact same last year.
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| Quote ="cas all the way"Surprise surprise. Fafita plays as I said he would a few days ago. You did the exact same last year.'"
Laughable.
As predictable as a surprise on Cilla Black’s ‘Surprise Surprise’.
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| Quote ="cas all the way"Surprise surprise. Fafita plays as I said he would a few days ago. You did the exact same last year.'"
Did the same with Kyle Wood against Hudds a few weeks back against Hudds, wasn't named in 19 but ended up starting. Personally I don't know how we keep getting away with it.
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| This is a painful match to watch in terms of penalties and errors.
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| 10 losses on the bounce against these lost - there is no pride in these derbies anymore.
At the risk of offending, Finn and Grix are starting to make Smith and Mathers look quick. Horo and Pauli are turning out to be uninspired signings.
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| Quote ="Willzay"10 losses on the bounce against these lost - there is no pride in these derbies anymore.
At the risk of offending, Finn and Grix are starting to make Smith and Mathers look quick. Horo and Pauli are turning out to be uninspired signings.'"
I did wonder when the real wllzay would crawl back out from under his stone.
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| Couldn't agree more there regarding Horo and Pauli. I know Pauli needs time to get fitness, but both of them probably on decent contracts and quota spots, how long do you give them.
I really hope the halves are freshened up for Hull. At times we looked to lack ideas when we were near their line.
Not all bad though, think we defended better tonight than we have in last couple of weeks apart from when we stood back and allowed Gale to run laterally across the line to set up their only try.
Onwards and upwards to Hull
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| Thought we did the basics better then you but even then you could have still won the game. Conditions probably suited us in a weird way as we aren't playing with any fluency .that said I don't think powell was buzzing with it lashing down. See you in 4 weeks.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Couldn't agree more there regarding Horo and Pauli. I know Pauli needs time to get fitness, but both of them probably on decent contracts and quota spots, how long do you give them.
I really hope the halves are freshened up for Hull. At times we looked to lack ideas when we were near their line.
Not all bad though, think we defended better tonight than we have in last couple of weeks apart from when we stood back and allowed Gale to run laterally across the line to set up their only try.
Onwards and upwards to Hull'"
How long do we give them? We've played 7 and a bit games you numpty
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| Quote ="Towns88"Thought we did the basics better then you but even then you could have still won the game.
I think Cas were better in the first half but I felt we had the better of the second half.
Your not wrong, we had chances to win it and one day we will learn how to win and then we will become a top four team.
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| Quote ="LG83"How long do we give them? We've played 7 and a bit games you numpty'"
I give my opinions on PP elsewhere, basically that he joined in January, so already he was trying to get in shape after his broken leg & he missed a big chunk of Preseason. What does CC do, he's the one that will see his stats in a much better way than we do and can make the calls based, eg, say If it's fitness thing or whatever. They have that thing attached to their back to see if he's blowing after 10 minutes and how quickly he's recovering after each carry or if it takes him longer to get his HR down.
As for Horo, at first a thought he was doing alright as a new guy in the side but there's no excuse for fitness and injury for him. I'd get Batchelor in there, I'd have done it a couple of games back tbh. The lads better than him now imo and doesn't miss tackles and carries the ball well.
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| Said it before they signed horo and got shouted down-
we are legless in attack when inside the 20 we never look like scoring...
trouble now to hold onto 8th spot
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| If we compare last season against the same opponents with this season against the same opponents we are only 2 points worse off (ie the Wigan loss)
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| Quote ="cas all the way"Surprise surprise. Fafita plays as I said he would a few days ago. You did the exact same last year.'"
If it's some dodgy conspiracy, why didn't we do the same last week? Could have done with him. Nah it's because it's a Derby and as we know he's got groin problems where he's' taking injections just to get him out the field, so it looks like this week was more important for the win than against Wire away.
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| Have to agree regarding Horo and Pauli. We have squad players who would bust a gut to get the chances those two have had. Time for a change maybe?
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| not that we have anyone else but the time for change is the halfs - miller and finn.
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| Stupid penalties gifting Cas field position cost that game. What's the point in fantastic attack pinning them to their 10 to gift them field position on the first tackle
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| Yes 7 games in, and 23 regular weekly rounds. My main point was as the rounds pass by, you would expect him to be improving, but he appears to be the same as in the first couple of rounds.
These type signings, can be a gamble if they don't work out, especially if they're taking up cap space and a quota spot.
Hope it works out for both players here, but just not convinced yet
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