No just sensible to wait 'til you have all the facts before spouting off.

Was more disappointed when MC said he would look a a decent offer but then Carney not 2 minutes later said that MC would be open to 'any' offer!
Fair play to Bill Arthur talking about the Council being able to build Shopping Centres and industrial estates but no land for a Community Stadium.

Why should we go close to admin again? We now have an owner who doesn't spend money we haven't got.

Unless I am a very bad judge of character, having met him a couple of times, MC seems a decent and honest player. I think he has the club's best interests at heart and I will be astonished and disillusioned in equal measure if he proves me wrong and sells us out. By serving notice on the ground he has stirred up a stagnant situation which may get some movement in the right direction. He has the whole game talking. I don't know if the rumour is to do with him but either way it is also getting us noticed and the injustice of our situation talked about. It is better than being quiet and stagnating as it was. Wee all need to keep shouting and hope we force them w'it power to listen

Think Michael Carter was honest and open last night on their plight, and the poor journalism.

Although Eddie, Clarke and the rest of their motley crew were as positive as ever about us, I think Bill Arthur stood up for the club, as their current plight, and pretty much nailed it on the head regarding councils granting retail parks etc, but can't deliver a stadium.

Has Bill been reading some of the comments on here

I have to say though i wish MC had just said we are not selling our superleague licence, end of story. Saying he would consider it just keeps the speculation rolling and now its out there on tv for all to see. Somebody has already said to me this morning that it sounded like a 'make me an offer' speech. Now i doubt it was but if its come accross that way then a few ears may have pricked up at the news. I guess we'll find out soon enough whether anyone actually is interested one way or another and can put it to bed.

Another thing i've noticed, in a couple of interviews now he's used the phrase 'i'll be fighting for the atadium whether i'm involved with Wakefield or not'. Wonder if he is considering stepping back from the limelight a bit. Might not be the case at all and it is just a throw away line but i can't say i'd blame him to be honest.

The way the Sky team ran with that licence nonsense was scandalous; only good old Bill cut through the crap and talked about the actual issue - the failure of WMDC to deliver on what they promised the citizens of Wakefield.

I have sympathy for MC - with a mic in his face, he can't say much that won't be picked apart and scrutinised after the fact, with most observers able to find evidence for their own theory in his responses. It sounded to me like *all* club owners talked about it at a SL meeting in Feb - and he's said no more than any other club owner - but Craven has linked that with our stadium plight, and created a story out of nothing, which has now become a narrative. That's how the media works - you find yourself trying to get in front of a non-story, which makes it a story - or you say nothing, which makes it a story. You can't win with these people!

Whilst disappointing to hear MC say it may be considered, it sounds alot worse when taken out of context from the interview like it has been. Typical media though really. I would expect the comment from MC was just either an off the cuff/on the spot statement, if not maybe some politics is behind it and this is just another move on the chess board. Either way I fully trust MC

Yeah its feasible, I was saying at the game that if someone came along and offered us enough to get out of the stadium hole, then might be worth considering. Take a short term hit for a potential long term gain.

But it won't happen, no one is gonna pay £10m for a SL place.

To concede 18 points in as many minutes was spineless, particularly the manner in which the tries were scored. Just rumbling over our line.
Credit to the lads for coming back like they did. But if we keep disappearing in defence for 10 minutes every match we will lose far more than we win. So no not really egg face much.

That was a patient second half display.
If you score more than you conceed you win .
Definitely egg on face.

They're either spineless or they're not spineless. Just make your mind up which one it is.
Oh... you already hsve.

Hardly 'spineless' to wipe out a 12 point deficit, go on to win and nil the opposition in the 2nd half.
Why can some people not just enjoy the win, being 7th with 50% record so far.

If you keep conceding soft tries, and they were soft, in quick succession at home then your asking for trouble, we got out of jail against Salford and Leigh, make no mistake about that. Games we should have won far more comfortably. If we want to progress as a team then shipping soft tries is the first thing that's got to stop. The 10 minutes before half time was spineless. Grix got excited and tried a kick out of dummy half, instead of completing our set and turning Leigh around we have them possession. Then we compounded it by losing our heads, going to pieces and turned a 6 point lead into a 12 point deficit.

Professional courtesy, that's all it would be!

Receive the offer in the spirit in which it's made, consider it, reject it.

Does anyone really think that a place in SL is only worth £2 million?

We talked about this at last nights game, don't we get £1.25M from central funding? If so why sell up for a possible extra £75K, if those figures are something like it would be insane to even contemplate it.

£750k

The BBC Sport online report seems more balanced than the coverage from Eddie and the Muppets on Sky.
I hope Dave Woods starts to give the game a bit more credibility with his input.

I think your name just about sums you up.

If you assume everything has a price and that Carter has to consider what is best for the club as a going concern, this is how I would quantify it.

The assumption is that we would be selling the place, not the club, so I would want a smaller club to have a place somewhere else in the Rugby League structure.
Let's assume it's in the Championship but even if it is in Champ 2 we would need somewhere to play and money to develop.
And it would need to be better over 5 years than we have now staying put.

So I'd assume our crowds would drop to 1.5-2k and there would be little funding from the RFL.

So to make it worth considering I would say
1) RFL confirm a place in the lower league
2) The new franchise would pay the following

5 years SL equivalent funding (£1.6 million?) so 5 x £1.6m = £8 million
Make up the lost crowd costs 17 games at £22 x 3,000 crowd x 5 years = £5.6 million

So the price to start considering the bid would be £13.6 million for me. I might give them a discount to £13 million for cash.

With that money I would rent Dewsbury until we can buy Belle Vue back and develop it to a level that could take a place in Super League if won through the Super 8s process.

Sod renting. Buy a plot of land and get two new stands built for that.

I agree that a place in super league should be valued at between £12-15 million, although I've suggested earlier that the money was used to buy the 35acres and spend £9m to build the stadium as Carter says that's what it would take, it would also cover us for a couple of years wages and running costs while we re-established.

The problem comes when you consider what what would a move actually mean as the league currently stands; the new city would get the league spot, possibly the trinity name, and probably the current players & staff. But that would only guarantee them a super league place for one season, in reality, that is probably only worth about £2m as it's a big risk for a new area to take and they'll have to set up academies and community stuff etc. If licensing comes back in then the value of a super league spot increases massively as it would guarantee several years for a new city to develop. This leads to the issue that a "new" club in Wakefield would be frozen out of reaching the Super League as we would have to wait to apply for a licence where we'd probably be quite far down the list

I'd be happy to play in a new stadium in a lower league, but we'd have to accept that we'd likely never see top flight rugby again

Coventry, Bristol, Toronto or any other club could be on a winner here because Mr Carter has said on more than one occasion that he would sell the club for a penny to anyone who wanted it. Or perhaps he was kidding!!!

Why don't they just chuck us out and give the franchise to somebody else.
All these financial calculations seem a little arbitrary when all the powers that be need to do is make it impossible for us to meet the conditions in the offer of a franchise.
If "they" want it to happen, I don't think we have any cards to play, with no money, no assets and no backing from the council, what is to stop them doing whatever they want'
All we have is goodwill, public opinion and an anti-Wexit movement.

We should hold out until next season, Moran can buy our place next season he is minted.