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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"cas have one in the last eighteen games just to put some context in place.'"
And a draw against Catalans. Don't kid yourself about Cas Tigers been anywhere near Wakey - your miles in front of us on and off the field. Our next coaching appointment is so important for us. Sounds like JK is the fans favourite - he certainly was on Boots N All last night.
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| Loyalty is shown to certain few. But when you have such as Danny Cowling performing like he did on his debut , and then being back heeled it makes you wonder , Also Frankie being out of favour , I would have thought any coach worth his salt would have progressed him to a higher level of performance by now . . The tag of Favourites seems to have some substance , it seems once the knife is in it doesn’t come out . The complete failure on youth progression is also another concern . the 19s at Wigan on Saturday were atrocious and apart from Shulver and Doherty there aren’t ANY including Healy (lack of fitness) who in my opinion are anywhere near a full time contract .In essence it seems some of the staff especially the non playing staff (they could form an ex players association of their own) have fallen into the comfort zone .It’s hard to form an opinion on the 16s as they have only played one fixture but after watching the 16s international it would be a concern of how many of the England squad (of which there were 5 out of the Wakefield area) will actually be signed by us
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"cas have one in the last eighteen games just to put some context in place.'"
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| I feel certain that had Kear been in charge of this squad we would have been 4th or 5th at this moment as he could motivate players.Im sure Cas would be miles better with Kear at the helm to motivate them.
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| Quote ="les-goose"I feel certain that had Kear been in charge of this squad we would have been 4th or 5th at this moment as he could motivate players.Im sure Cas would be miles better with Kear at the helm to motivate them.'"
Even as a JK fan I wouldn't thought there was a chance he'd have us in 4th or 5th, squad not good enough or big enough to be up there imo.
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| With the points we have dropped but should have had we would be about there not sying we would finish in that position but at this moment we have lost against Hudds giving silly points away that Kear would have sorted better.We had the side to beat Salford but thought it would be a walk in the park and got only 1 point.We could have taken Hull in the right frame of mind and feel we should have done Catalan in the right frame of mind.We look at times as though we arnt motivated enough to take the game by the scruff of the neck and stand hard and fast to grind wins out.
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| It's all if's and maybe's & it's not as if things we're all rosy with JK, there were plenty of games under him we didn't turn up as well.
There were noises like this last season around this time, saying it would be so much better if JK was here.
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| Am I the only person who thinks that JK, blessed be his name, is fast approaching dinosaur status? I realise I'm at risk of being lynched, but I can't see that his five drives and a kick method of grinding out a win would be compatible with players like Tim Smith and Big Ali.
I'm sure there'd be an initial reaction from the players if he goes to Cas, but I can't see his methods being the answer to their longer term problems.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Am I the only person who thinks that JK, blessed be his name, is fast approaching dinosaur status? I realise I'm at risk of being lynched, but I can't see that his five drives and a kick method of grinding out a win would be compatible with players like Tim Smith and Big Ali.
I'm sure there'd be an initial reaction from the players if he goes to Cas, but I can't see his methods being the answer to their longer term problems.'"
We would not have the squad we have if JK was in charge, senior would be in instead of collis, no aiton or Tim smith and annakin would not have got a look in. Plus the rugby would be painful to watch and over a season we wud not be any better off in terms of league points and probably much worse off with points difference.
Not sure what the attraction to Kear is for wakey fans his tenure had definitely run its course
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| Quote ="bren2k"Am I the only person who thinks that JK, blessed be his name, is fast approaching dinosaur status? I realise I'm at risk of being lynched, but I can't see that his five drives and a kick method of grinding out a win would be compatible with players like Tim Smith and Big Ali.
I'm sure there'd be an initial reaction from the players if he goes to Cas, but I can't see his methods being the answer to their longer term problems.'"
Yes and no.
To call him a dinosaur is a bit previous but he's probably lost his edge. He can still turn any club around IMO but move them to the top then I doubt it. He never had the cash that Agar has despite what you seem to believe but I'm not sure he'd do any better with it.
In true fickle fan style they all wanted rid 2 years ago, now enough time has elapsed he represents a long lost golden age to the exact same people - and that's from someone who didn't want JK to go.
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| Its amazinghow people on here completly ignore folk on here who mention the youth of this club .Victor meldrew mae a good point about danny cowling couldnt have made a better debut than the one against saints ,but as been copletly ignored since. i agree about the 19s nobody apart the two mentioned decerve a second glance . watched a lot of age group rugby in my time up to the present coached it aswell and watching the 16s some look quality but watching the international a lot of it was poor ithink theresa lot of folk including coaches going overboard about players what ive seen over the years some have made it some aint beleive me nowt special
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| Quote ="vastman"Yes and no.
To call him a dinosaur is a bit previous but he's probably lost his edge. He can still turn any club around IMO but move them to the top then I doubt it. He never had the cash that Agar has despite what you seem to believe but I'm not sure he'd do any better with it.
In true fickle fan style they all wanted rid 2 years ago, now enough time has elapsed he represents a long lost golden age to the exact same people - and that's from someone who didn't want JK to go.
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Agree with that especially the highlighted part, some people do look back with rose tinted glasses a bit where JK is concerned and like you say some of those are the ones who wanted rid.
Like I said though, I reckon he would be a good guy to come in and do a job for Cas for the next season and a half say..
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| I've heard rumours from this side of the common that Cas could go into administration within a fortnight. No evidence coming from their end though.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Agree with that especially the highlighted part, some people do look back with rose tinted glasses a bit where JK is concerned and like you say some of those are the ones who wanted rid.
Like I said though, I reckon he would be a good guy to come in and do a job for Cas for the next season and a half say..'"
You are right Shifty but, a lot of water has passed under the bridge since Kear was at Wakey and although the end of his reign was a slightly messy affair, we know many things now, which were not in the public domain at the time.
Many fans would have liked to see what JK could have done with Agars budget but, this is all in the past.
The thing with Cas, is that they are in the mire and first of all, they need someone with experience, that they can afford, who can steady the ship and make some progress and i'm with you here, he looks like a perfect fit.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"I've heard rumours from this side of the common that Cas could go into administration within a fortnight. No evidence coming from their end though.'"
Is that why Cas are willing to listen to offers for Chase?
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| Quote ="JINJER"Is that why Cas are willing to listen to offers for Chase?'"
Not what i'm hearing, there will be a fire sale of players to prevent it. Chase is going to the NRL to save his wages and Clark to Warrington for a quarter of a million. Couple of others will probably follow also, but not until a new coach is appointed. That will likely be John Kear. Jack Fulton will step down as chairman to become club president and his debt restructured to allow a new board to take over. There will be some cash injected but that will just be to renovate the stadium and improve the corperate hospitality there and ground safety improvements.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Is that why Cas are willing to listen to offers for Chase?'"
St George is the rumour I've heard again and Daryl Clark to Warrington.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"I've heard rumours from this side of the common that Cas could go into administration within a fortnight. No evidence coming from their end though.'"
I've not heard anything.
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| If I was on the board at Cas, I would be making a beeline for Kear. No doubt at all he has the short term man motivational skills they need right here, right now to firstly get a couple of results on the board and get some bums on seats. All the ingredients would be right for him to take over the team at a pretty low ebb and find a way of forging them into a team far, far greater than the sum of it's parts like he has a proven record of doing - and with him being a Cas lad too is the cherry on the cake for them.
Long term, Kear isn't the answer for anybody in Superleage nowadays - but no doubt at all him coming in now would be a great move for Cas.
I think Kear's time was up (well and truly) by the time we parted company with him, but at the beginning he was amazing for us and there are definite similarities between us in 2006 and and Cas now meaning for me he is the only choice to do the job.
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| Quote ="sixtogo"Not what i'm hearing, there will be a fire sale of players to prevent it. Chase is going to the NRL to save his wages and Clark to Warrington for a quarter of a million. Couple of others will probably follow also, but not until a new coach is appointed. That will likely be John Kear. Jack Fulton will step down as chairman to become club president and his debt restructured to allow a new board to take over. There will be some cash injected but that will just be to renovate the stadium and improve the corperate hospitality there and ground safety improvements.'"
I've just heard almost exactly the same - I don't know if that means there's anything in it, but it does sound like a credible plan.
I do hope it works out for them - inter-club rivalry aside, it's not nice for the supporters of any colours to endure the slow death of their club.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"We would not have the squad we have if JK was in charge, senior would be in instead of collis, no aiton or Tim smith and annakin would not have got a look in. Plus the rugby would be painful to watch and over a season we wud not be any better off in terms of league points and probably much worse off with points difference.
Not sure what the attraction to Kear is for wakey fans his tenure had definitely run its course'"
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| Quote ="sixtogo"Not what i'm hearing, there will be a fire sale of players to prevent it. Chase is going to the NRL to save his wages and Clark to Warrington for a quarter of a million. Couple of others will probably follow also, but not until a new coach is appointed. That will likely be John Kear. Jack Fulton will step down as chairman to become club president and his debt restructured to allow a new board to take over. There will be some cash injected but that will just be to renovate the stadium and improve the corperate hospitality there and ground safety improvements.'"
That sounds about right IMO. Where the new BOD members are coming from is anyones guess.
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| Quote ="sixtogo"Not what i'm hearing, there will be a fire sale of players to prevent it. Chase is going to the NRL to save his wages and Clark to Warrington for a quarter of a million. Couple of others will probably follow also, but not until a new coach is appointed. That will likely be John Kear. Jack Fulton will step down as chairman to become club president and his debt restructured to allow a new board to take over. There will be some cash injected but that will just be to renovate the stadium and improve the corperate hospitality there and ground safety improvements.'"
You was doing well until you mentioned Kear!!
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| Quote ="braytontiger"You was doing well until you mentioned Kear!!
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I know you would have thought he had more sense than take that job...
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