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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"
a) The RFl weren't advised of the positive test until 15/02 so they can't be expected to consider any results before that.
b) you sound like Peter Hood after Millenium Magic 2007. Give us our points back!'"
a) Think you missed this bit
Quote It was a legitimate question regardless of the clubs involved.'"
b) Think you missed this bit
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| Quote ="underground"You may have a point...
depending on the type of drug, the timing of the first test and the sharing of this information with the club, the league and the player, the RFL by-Laws affecting this issue...
but as we know nothing of any of those issues... it's an irrelevant point based on pure conjecture and speculation...'"
Thats why I said.... IF  and of course you are right until we know ALL the facts. So I will get back to you then.  |
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"a) Think you missed this bit
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Think you missed this bit:
[ia) The RFl weren't advised of the positive test until 15/02 so they can't be expected to consider any results before that[/i |
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[size=150=#BF0040Thread Cleaned Up!
No one has been found guilty of anything - yet.
Not any player or any club. This board will not become a kangaroo court for any individual or for any club.
Any posts which could, in any circumstances, be deemed to cross this line, will be removed - and the poster either warned or banned themselves.
No leniency! [/size
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Think you missed this bit:
[ia) The RFl weren't advised of the positive test until 15/02 so they can't be expected to consider any results before that[/i'"
Sorry not relevant IMHO
If a convicted cheat plays in a game or games then his effect on the outcome should at least be considered.
I am not saying what the outcome of any consideration should be only that there must be some review regardless of the clubs involved.
I would qualify this by also saying the conviction MUST be for performance ehancing drugs...recreational use is not a consideration here IMHO.
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Here's a thought.
Newton was injured late last season. What if he ill advisedly took some "drug" or "medicine" to help him with the injury.
Remember it has happened before with Kieron Cunningham, so until the actual charges / results are confirmed it is probably better we keep our powder dry.
Let's wait and see before hanging him out to dry.
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What does this mean for wakefield then, its obviously bad publicity, but will there be a fine or anything?
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| Quote ="wakeyjosh"What does this mean for wakefield then, its obviously bad publicity, but will there be a fine or anything?'"
I doubt it - there's not a lot that a club can do to interfere with what a player does in his own time, Trinity arn't responsible unless they have administered the medicine that contains the substance.
I really hope it is a mix up, it'd be a real shame for Terry to end a long and successful career in disgrace. |
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| Well judging by the recent RFL discipliniary decisions if he played for Warrington he would be let off. 
Thought Boots N All was so bad its laughable. |
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| Quote ="TRB"[size=150=#BF0040Thread Cleaned Up!
No one has been found guilty of anything - yet.
Not any player or any club. This board will not become a kangaroo court for any individual or for any club.
Any posts which could, in any circumstances, be deemed to cross this line, will be removed - and the poster either warned or banned themselves.
No leniency! [/size'"
I have heard judge judy is recruting she wants an assistant I'm going to put your name forward TRB. But can you part with Ted? Thats the question? |
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Here's a thought.
Newton was injured late last season. What if he ill advisedly took some "drug" or "medicine" to help him with the injury.
Remember it has happened before with Kieron Cunningham, so until the actual charges / results are confirmed it is probably better we keep our powder dry.
Let's wait and see before hanging him out to dry.'"
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I don't think it really matters either way, one club or another, if he has a charge to answer and we DON'T know that at this stage then it looks bad on the game in general.
People keep going on about the RL familly and then you read some of the bitter bile thats been posted on here by a few poor trolls. Trouble is that everything said by other teams fans gets taken the wrong way, and any sensible discussuion breaks down.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"People keep going on about the RL familly and then you read some of the bitter bile thats been posted on here by a few poor trolls. Trouble is that everything said by other teams fans gets taken the wrong way, and any sensible discussuion breaks down.'"
Yep. Good to see they have gone.
Whilst this is a serious subject we still need to remember the fantastic start to the season we have had
(despite the pie fiasco!  )
There is still a lot of great stuff going on, and until we are aware of the full facts its business as usual!
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Well I think that's the first time I've heard Super League and certainly (table toppers) Wakefield get mentioned on the BBC Breakfast show.
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| Quote ="SBR"Well I think that's the first time I've heard Super League and certainly (table toppers) Wakefield get mentioned on the BBC Breakfast show.'"
Still managed a minor error though, apparently he has played in both of our games this season. |
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| Quote ="TRB"[size=150=#BF0040Thread Cleaned Up!
No one has been found guilty of anything - yet.
Not any player or any club. This board will not become a kangaroo court for any individual or for any club.
Any posts which could, in any circumstances, be deemed to cross this line, will be removed - and the poster either warned or banned themselves.
No leniency! [/size'"
Correct. No one on here knows the facts so its not worthy of speculation.
Does anyone know when the RFL Inquiry is being held ? |
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"Of course it was an alternative detrimental view. It didn't fit with what you lot want to think as it was detrimental. Thus, alternative and detrimental.
Quite feasible too and you know it oh sensitive one.'"
Nah, you were trolling - as always.
You know it. Oh trolling one. |
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Newton had to leave the ‘’Audience with….’ early around that time, might've been for this test.
My own personal thoughts are although the bad publicity is unwelcome for the club, they’re not responsible for individual players’ actions. Just as Wigan were not responsible for Hock, Bradford for Hudson etc.
As for the ramifications to the playing side, well I have no affinity towards Newton and he is still relatively new to the club. The hooking role is a department were the club are fairly blessed with Latu and Obst plus young Davy for back up. Had it been Brough or a forward it may have been a struggle.
The point about his recovery form injury is a good point, however, if this were the case I would’ve thought that Newton would’ve been given the benefit of the doubt without getting banned until conclusive evidence proved whether he was guilty or not. |
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Newton had to leave the ‘’Audience with….’ early around that time, might've been for this test.
My own personal thoughts are although the bad publicity is unwelcome for the club, they’re not responsible for individual players’ actions. Just as Wigan were not responsible for Hock, Bradford for Hudson etc.
As for the ramifications to the playing side, well I have no affinity towards Newton and he is still relatively new to the club. The hooking role is a department were the club are fairly blessed with Latu and Obst plus young Davy for back up. Had it been Brough or a forward it may have been a struggle.
The point about his recovery form injury is a good point, however, if this were the case I would’ve thought that Newton would’ve been given the benefit of the doubt without getting banned until conclusive evidence proved whether he was guilty or not. | |
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"If that were the case then you were the worst biter of them all.
No changes there.
Anyway, I'd love to play with you some more but we need to get back on topic.
FWIW I only care about those taking performance enhancing drugs. Those taking recreational stuff should be given a stern talking to, a fine but not banned for 2 years. That's excessive. Hock shouldnt have been banned and neither should Newton IF he's guilty of recreational only.'"
Unfortunately us '7 fingered neanderthal inbreds' as you so nicely put it on the Leeds board, have no desire
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| The reason I raised my concerns is that one week he is reported has having a possible season long injury...a torn bicep IIRC and misses a game
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"The reason I raised my concerns is that one week he is reported has having a possible season long injury...a torn bicep IIRC and misses a game
and the next we hear a radio interview on Saturday where it is stated he makes a "remarkable" recovery.
I do hope for the sake of the game as a whole the club are not culpable as well.'"
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| Quote ="underground"You may have a point...
depending on the type of drug, the timing of the first test and the sharing of this information with the club, the league and the player, the RFL by-Laws affecting this issue...
but as we know nothing of any of those issues... it's an irrelevant point based on pure conjecture and speculation...'"
90% of what is on the board is pure conjecture and speculation.
The RFL would not suspend a high profile player unless it believed it had reasonable grounds to do so - let's face it the sport is the big loser here |
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"That's just it though, I didn't so don't make things up to suit.
I said If found guilty then the club has to take some responsibility for failing to control its players.
I have.
What part of 'If found guilty then the club has to take some responsibility' don't you understand?'"
You also suggested that all Wakefield players should be tested to make sure this isn’t a club problem. If that’s not trolling I don’t know what is. |
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"
FWIW I only care about those taking performance enhancing drugs. Those taking recreational stuff should be given a stern talking to, a fine but not banned for 2 years. That's excessive. Hock shouldnt have been banned and neither should Newton IF he's guilty of recreational only.'"
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and of course you are right until we know ALL the facts. So I will get back to you then. 
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