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My vote goes for the Normanton Mafia bully boys, headed up by their messiah and Mark 'psychopath' Voakes and his disciples.

How can I be the head of a group, if I am a) not from Normanton, and b) not a bully boys - it really doesnt make sense

Isn't this thread supposed to be about the potential take-over ??

I'm on that group too Mark so I'm not hiding, but the rule on this group is to remain anonymous. Its just the way it is.

I didn't say you were to blame for making the club toxic, but equally this forum has an acceptable use policy which I'd advise you to read.
You are welcome to post your views, but if it gets personal (or toxic) you'll be moderated on those rules same as everyone else.

Try reading it again and this time specifically look for the word 'and' which changes your interpretation of what was said.

Yes. Good point.
Let's get back on track. Me included.

I'm on that group also, so also not hiding!

As long as the rules are the same from everyone thats fine.

You said 'indeed' when someone brought me into this - I have been called a mafia, bully boy - which I would suggest is personal and potentially toxic - but because its targeted at me, it appears that it meets the 'acceptable use policy' of this page.

Sorry, I had to address some personal bullying issues towards myself, after my name was brought into this thread.

A reliable source who has not let me down in the past informs me of the below, I will admit that i do not understand the why's or hows and it doesn't really make sense but here goes:

The Ellis interest is very real and and offer is a long way down the line however there are some sticking points.
The council load repayments are a lot higher than anticipated by Ellis and he struggles to see how the club would afford them in the Championship without them being paid by directors/owners. Taking on the debt isn't an issue in itself but paying for it if we go down is.
The new stand is set up to run under a separate company to the actual club, a bit like a Stadium Management Company. Carter is wanting to remain in control of this and charge to club itself rent to be able to use it. Now I always understood that the club owned the land and everything on top of the land so I am not sure how it works or even if it is true but I do trust my source.
The final sticking point is Directors Loans. The small shareholders are happy to sell without recuperating their money however Carter wants his loans paying back in full despite what he has said in the past.

What Carter says and what Carter does aren't always the same thing.

welcome on board, the fight against the establishment goes on, till we get our club back

makes me laugh how the current bod want to charge trinity for using their own stand after contributing nothing towards it. Just go now you've done enough damage and if this is the case you are motivated by pure greed or someone making a success of the club, something which you haven't

I think I've asked this before but
1) when did you previously 'have the club'
2) what makes you think new guy is going to do what you want?

Being charged to use the stand goes against the whole point of it being built. Carter hasn't paid for it so should not be due any renumeration from it. If this is true and he does not relent then he's as good as lost his money anyway. Perhaps he's trying it on to see what he can get. On those terms I can understand the sticking points.

Surely Carter wouldn't quit because he could see that the Council Loan would potentially make the Club insolvent? Maybe it's just getting too hard? And I find it hard to understand how the East Stand could be under a different Title (and ownership) to the Club unless it's in a Leasehold Structure and Mr Carter et al owns that Leasehold Interest? They don't own the East Stand? The City effectively owns the stand, right? Now I'm confused, concerned, and a bit disappointed if I am honest. And MC wanting his Loan back after the bluster telling us all he wasn't bothered about them? I can only assume it's posturing as part of a deal negotiation. If it's all true of course - which it might not be! I guess we will find out in the next few days.

Absolutely disgusting if true. How anyone stick up for him.

All sounds a bit suspect to me but let's see how it plays out.

Mainly because as you say you don't know it's true.
The only source is from people who admit to being Carter haters.

I haven't had the club which know but it's my club as it is yours and the current bod are the guardians of our club. When these clowns go I have my club back and a dictator hasn't

I'm not in the know at all on this, but there is no way that the £8.5m that was provided to build the stand and other upgrades would have been handed to Michael Carter and John Minards for their own personal gains. I could understand it going into a community group set up separate from the club which the aforementioned people may be heading up currently, but again not for their own personal gain. I think your reliable source might know something but not the actual truth.

That is not what I am saying. What I have been told is that the management of the Ground has been moved to an SMC which is what Carter wants to remain involved with a thus charge the club a rent.

Which again wasn't what was sold to us. It was to be a WT asset and they were to benefit from renting it out.

The original deal at NM was the ground would be leased to a Trust on peppercorn rent with Trinity paying that organisation as anchor tenants.

This situation seems to be a bit of a power play and seems way off in my opinion, and while there seems to be a growing number who dislike Carter, this would push the balance to most of the support base, again if true.

This is easily rectified, the current incumbents could just deny the story.

Reading this has made me feel sick. I’ve always stood by MC and JM, built this is true regarding the new stand, then I feel that I’ve been made a fool of. I’ve recently bought into the share scheme believing I was helping to finance the future of the club, this apparently underhanded business of the new stand is bordering on skulduggery, and if it turns out to be true, then I really will be re considering my loyalty to this club/management. I’m paying into the commit 6, and at this moment I’m convinced I should end my payments. Any money I pay regarding Trinity, I want it to go to Trinity, not some faceless Stadium Management set up. If the current management does not come clean on this issue in the very near future, then I will not be investing any more monies into the club, Gutted

I feel like you'll be disappointed. You'll just end up with another dictator.