They will get the same thing they got out of selling Wheldon Road to a Super Market, just Opus and Cas will receive less cash.

They're a company that make money doing this sort of thing, and an area as big as what Cas are letting them sell will give them a nice tidy profit, so why wouldn't they want to sell it?

I was comparing the last few seasons with (admittedly one TV game) how Batley played. I don't expect us to do much this season, so playing entertaining rugby and competing while the team grows to know each other will do me fine.

it's a question that should be levelled at some within council circles, because the rumours are that there is a lot of effort going in to moving a planning gain from one place to another.

I understand why they would want to sell WR for housing and get their cut, that bit makes sense. What I don't get is how does it tie in with the sale of the Nestle site? How and why should Cas gain out of that? Its nothing to do with them, surely the money will be Nestles', less opus' cut?

It will be, Opus will just have land deals with Nestle as well as Cas.

Opus are going to do very well out of this, set out with 1 bit of land end up with 2 just down the road from each other both sold, cracking business by them.

Nice work if you can get it!

Not sure I follow. Are you suggesting that the council might want a company to pay over the odds for a piece of land based on what theoretically could be built there, even if the likelihood of it happening is remote?

Or are we talking about a sale of land including a levy put into a section 106 agreement to provide additional monies for another build next to, lets say, a motorway?

I actually thought we played some good rugby under Kear. The last 18 months were pretty dire, but with what was happening with the club and the quality of players we had, that is only to be expected. The play-off season was good to watch, and we started the following year like an house on fire. It weren't till we lost Brough, Tronc and Newton in quick succession that things started to go down hill, as I'm sure it would at any club which lost three such influencial players. Having said that, we're throwing it about well this year and we just need that killer instinct when we are dominating teams. I'm sure having Amor back will help, and if Smith and John can click at half-back then I'm sure the wins will start coming.

We did, some great stuff (by our recent standards )from 2007 - 2009 - the decline on field had little to do with JK although I'm sure he did what was best for him towards the end - who wouldn't.

Could it be that with Tigers fans on board they would have less resistance to building on Nestles site, the couple of rows of houses between the two sites might not want the development, the houses do seem to be in the way when you look on google earth with any master plan for the area!

The season we beat Saints at home after being 2 or 3 scores down early on was very good to watch. Could of been the same season Klein stopped us from beating Leeds by penalising us to death only for us to come back really strongly and nearly nick it. Although the Leeds game could've been the year after I lose track. Either way we did play some decent RL under Kear that should not be forgotten

think about the 106 agreement at NM and transfer it to the full length of wheldon road. do the maths.

Not knowing whats in the document, whats in the 106 agreement at NM thats got anything to do with wheldon road?

sweetener for the locals. WR isn't green belt so cas won't get as much as us.

Ahh right. Heres a pot full of money for your house, now please go away and be quiet type of thing.

nothing of the sort. the mix of old and new is the mortar to the bricks. its much more subtle and much more persuasive than that. off to bed now.

Sounds like they are bending over backwards for them anyway. They can't complain about preferential treatment anymore at least. Lets hope it works out for both clubs, neither want a groundshare.

www.casforum.co.uk/forum/viewtop ... 60#p339960 As I posted on the Cas RLFANS forum and ours, this is what’s happening at WR. The NM Plan B is an interesting one, and perhaps is why the initial comment from Kear was extracted.

www.casforum.co.uk/forum/viewtop ... 60#p339960 As I posted on the Cas RLFANS forum and ours, this is what’s happening at WR. The NM Plan B is an interesting one, and perhaps is why the initial comment from Kear was extracted.

Funny that - I was talking to someone at the game yesterday and said that perhaps Kear was making comments about sharing a stadium as part of a PR game by the Cas board, to pave the way for them moving to NM.

The big barrier to success was always going to be the attitude of fans, so maybe once the original WR deal fell through some months ago, they've been doing their level best to create the impression that they've tried everything, so that angry Cas fans can be told "we've done our best - this is the only option."

It will leave Cas with no stadium, but a big chunk of cash in the bank; my prediction - announced as a temporary move, they'll encounter further 'issues' with GH down the line and eventually, they'll take up residency at NM on a permanent basis. From that point onwards, a merger becomes an inevitability.

I think the key issue Bren will be if any side is good enough to replace Cas in 2015, stadium or not! If there is not a side that the RFL consider ready (and I am sorry Halifax & Leigh, I don't think you will be ready!) then if Cas have to move into Newmarket (or possibly Keepmoat?), it buys them another three years to build GH. I don't think RW & the Cas board will give up that easily on a new home at GH and I don't think they should. I think if the news on WR is as positive as the plans currently sound, then the RFL will acknowledge that in giving Cas another franchise term.

If they are still not in a new home by 2018, then a merger will be pushed I suspect!

How does all of this fit in with whatever Cas told the RFL in their last franchise application ?

i think it is nailed on that either both or a merged team will be playing out of newmarket by 2015.i dont think cas have any other choice now than the one that is on the table although not everyone will like it!!

Never no merger GH for you

Being good enough has never been a barrier for London and it doesn't appear to be one for Widnes. Meanwhile, Fev are quietly taking care of business and the RFL have talked recently about an Irish team and some other expansion areas; there's also the possibility of another French team. In that context, I'm not sure they could credibly allow another 3 years on the promise of yet another property deal, with not a brick in the ground; especially given the seriousness of the language they used when awarding the most recent franchises and the specific warning to clubs like ourselves and Cas about their ability to remove a licence if no progress was made.

It would be an interesting experience to have Cas share at NM and even more interesting to watch how things unfold from then onwards.

The RFL won't allow them to move to the Keepmoat in the same way they wouldn't allow us to move to Oakwell. They want teams to be as near as possible to their fanbase.

This is a very convoluted proposal by the Council, Opus and Cas and one that will take an awful long time to work through and come to fruition. I believe the working timscale is five years, but there is a whole chain of events that has to fit into place and if one fall down the whole thing will be delayed. I hope things run smoothly for them but the way these things pan out i'd expect it to be the the end of the decade before we see it up and running, its just the nature of the beast. There are a whole load of very high hurdles to get over before any planning permissions are even applied for, let alone passed. And their plan B revolves around Newmarket being passed which, although looking promising, isn't nailed on yet. Although if extra support was to come out in favour of it then it would obviously be beneficial. Could we see the biggest u-turn in history from Richard Wright who just a few months ago was trying to throw a spanner in its works? Interesting times ahead.