Never said that wasn’t the case... I actually think whilst it looks like Bill shot out of the line for the Mano try, it was actually because we were never set correctly when the ball was played subsequently leaving us on the back foot and giving Warrington the numbers.

I was simply pointing out that Bill does get it wrong, as you confirmed. Maybe I shouldn’t of said “so often”...

The best and worse things for us were both out wide for me

Charney went through Kaye and Kaye should have s ored, but equally Kaye did some good runs and got us out of trouble

Kershaw should have got with Max on his break and should have scored a couple of times and should have killed the ball on the scramble try but equally he defended the high ball well and got us off our line and took his try really well.

I just felt if TJ or even BJB were on either wing we'd have converted some of those chances.

There was a lot of good on the field tonight but we just made too many errors which cost us a lot of field position.

It was always going to be a difficult game and we were still getting something at the end.

Learn and move on to Cas.

Sadly often the case with the Trin but as you say, on to Cas!

Defensive frailties apart ,we looked really good going forwards when we moved the ball down the line ,but far too often we reverted back to one out rugby which the wires easily defended against .Not having a pop at the big bopper here as he took his try well but was doing an awful lot of the walking with ball in hand stuff , that may work on lesser teams but not the bigger ones . Top teams will always punish you for your mistakes and indiscretions and that’s what happened tonight .Take it onboard and move on and hopefully lessons learnt.

Bad day at the office, move on to next week. Hope the injuries are nothing that will keep anyone out.

I fear Reece’s might leave him on the sideline for a few weeks, shame after today’s news about the England side.

Didn’t see the game so can’t really comment, sounds like we had plenty of opportunities to score more points, though letting any team score that many points isn’t good enough, especially how well our defence has been in recent weeks. Onwards and upwards to Cas!

I thought PP was a bit unlucky with that.
I probably wouldn't have even given a penalty.

The first sin bin I thought was a bit tight too.

It looked worse as per usual in slow motion because it clearly wasn’t a shoulder charge nor particularly late at real speed.

Yep, 4 try’s on the left today? Ultimately the difference. Bill has been fantastic the last 2 games but he was too eager and shot out leaving Kay high and dry a few times. Another time he’d planted his feet in the ground which didn’t help either. We just need to go back to what we were doing right in defence. We didn’t have the intensity today and were very reserved in working off the ball too (chasing the kicker down etc).

We are much better than we showed today and bill is a much better player than he showed today.

As did the forward pass from Westerman after a quality break and wire under all sorts of pressure. In reality it was how we started that cost us today. 14 point we gave them before we woke up. I’d also look at the left edge defence that leaked 4 try’s at least.

Chester says Tanginoa, Ashurst and TJ will all play Wednesday and Westerman and Lyne came off for precautions and will be fine.

Spot on assessment , we just can’t keep the consistency of our best performance going . For me if we could have played at the Hudds or HKR intensity it would have looked a whole different game and scoreline .

Alas Warrington are a better team and can hurt you more than Huddersfield and Hull KR.
I'm sure the intention was to do exactly that.

As for Lino dropping the ball, when you handle it s often it sometimes happens. Didn’t Blake Austin do exactly the same?

You're right Warrington are better than Huddersfield over a full season, but yet just a few weeks ago Hudds were 20-0 up at wire at half time, then we were 30-0 up at half time against Hudds?! Where's the form line in that?! It just shows it's turning into a bit of a weird season, look at Cas, last 3 league games all at home, have conceded 120 points! I won't say there will be never a better time to beat them, because it's a hoodoo we just can't seem to shake, but surely there will never be a better time to beat them......

I take your point but Cas are different.
They were focused on the challenge cup and weren't at those zgames at all.
Let's hope they still are.

I’m quite happy with that score.

It’s realistically where you would expect us to be, you don’t go from a beaten team to challengers overnight.

For me Warrington on paper are the best team in SL after Saints.

I think when we play Warrington at home we have a chance of beating them.

We scored 3 and it wasn’t a blow out score line by modern standards.

We have to accept that beating Warrington, Saints and Wigan on their own turf with no away support is a very tall order.

I think the coaching staff will be ok but clearly not ecstatic. Encounters like this will hopefully make us far more prepared for Cas next week.

At home against a far more unpredictable team and a derby game, a shock is far more likely. No one will care about last night if we can beat the old enemy.

Did anyone see Max take a proper high tackle and ref just dismissed it. Proper swinging arm and didn’t miss. Think it was Mike Cooper.

Yes it was early in the first half I think and got clattered round his head. Ref did just ignore it though it could t have been more obvious and in front of him.

I thought he killed us at the ruck the ref. When Tupou was picked up off the ground twice and carried back 10 yards his feet leaving ground twice ref didn’t call held and he almost ended in the in goal. Have the rules changed where you were held when both feet were lifted off floor? Or did I imagine that.


He wasn’t the reason we lost but I felt Wire go a lot of leniency in the ruck and being a step in front of the ref offside when pinning us reapeatedly in our 10/20.

You kind of just come to accept that they are inconsistent these days. We got rock all until second half and then the flood of evening up six against and penalties came to even the scales a bit. Unfortunately we didn’t capitalise and didn’t execute our chances.

Too many times in that last quarter when we were in a good attacking position Fifita took the ball from a standing start with little ground making effect. When he runs hard from deep he makes at least an extra 10 metres.

I don’t think Dave is fully fit yet.

He’s basically had a two year lay off. He’s not a natural athlete, I reckon another few games before we see the best. The best I will add won’t be that of three seasons ago Im afraid, age and all that.

One word

Ashurst.

Bill plays better when Ashurst plays. Not sure of the technicalities but he defends far better when Ashurst is with him.

You may have a point there. Ashurst is back vs Cas and we will have TJ too. That’s our starting left side. Looking forward to seeing what they can do.

we just dont have enough to beat the quality teams this year - we just need to win the ones like we have to be safe