I’m only guessing here, but RW is behind the football club, if said football club managed to access grants for say £2M, then surely the football club would want/demand a fair share of the ground so ultimately Trinity wouldn’t own the ground 100%.

Is there anything to stop Trinity applying for a football grant given the game could be played their, especially with the affiliated ladies team also

Not sure KK, I'm sure others will know better than us.

Wakefield FC is a Trojan Horse, designed for someone I find unsavoury, to get their hands on BV.

I am sure Mr. Carter knows what he's doing, but like some others on here, I am uncomfortable with any form of relationship with them.

Exactly my thoughts on this.

See this is the bit I don't get, this is the paranoia that others I expect are referring too.

No offence dboy but your argument seems flawed IMHO.

For a start we don't own BV in any real sense, nor does it currently have any real value as either an RL ground or a football ground. If we had no mortgage on it, which I assume is a 100% and that at least some of it was up to any decent standard then yes it might be a gamble to let others in but it isn't. It's actually a dump that we paid over the odds for and requires millions spending on it just to be half-decent, we quite literally have nothing to lose because if it doesn't become half decent and soon we will be kicked out of SL and we will die anyway.

With that in mind, why would Wakefield FC or RW even need a Trojan horse? Also, BV has been available for purchase for more or less the last ten years so if RW had wanted it to develop BV for Wakefield FC he could have bought it at any time and simply kicked us out or milked us as tenants. They didn't need WTRLFC to do that did they, so where is the advantage in doing now when Trinity has a bit more of a hold on the stadium rather than less, it makes no sense.

I have no issue with you regarding Walker, I find him odious and his practices dubious a lot of the time, however like many others I don't see the issue as regards Wakefield FC with or without RW.

Let be honest, there is no way a struggling club in a struggling sport like RL could by itself develop BV, we just don't have the cash or the access to borrow it, that's a fact and in that respect, we are fairly stuffed as far as I can see.

We will need the support of others to do it and in return, they will want their piece of flesh and if Wakefield FC backed by RW is where that support is coming from then so be it, personally I can't see any option. As I said before if you can then my ears are open.

At the end of the day if we pay for the land and the rest pay for the stadium and we end up as say a 50% shareholder then is that so bad. So long as we don't lose our ability to influence the way BV is run and thus our right to be there at a fair rate then fine, why not? In truth, if the stadium were converted into an Ltd company with a BOD including one from Trinity we would only need 31% of the shares to be able to block anything we didn't like (that's how I understand corporate law, others may know differently).

The 30% theoretically is quite important for another reason. The cost of buying the ground at a rough guess would be around 30% of the eventual cost of a full revamp of BV. Just a thought. Basically I'm struggling to see the conspiracy

Slightly off topic but that highlighted line is completely wrong. Take a look at the like of Bury & Bolton recently plus the current League 2, National League and clubs lower down the pyramid than that. I'm sure they'd tell you that you're



Anyway back on topic, we'd be nowt without MC and others like him.
Up the Trin.

A post from IA, dated July 27 2017g

A brief informal statement from me personally as Chair of the Wakefield & District Community Trust.

At 9.30am on Thursday 27th July, I understand that Sir Rodney Walker and his yet unknown colleagues, are meeting at the offices of Chadwick Lawrence. I can also confirm that as of this time no new Trust company with Sir Rodney as a Director/Trustee is showing as been registered with either Companies House or the Charity Commission.

I was invited to attend said meeting by Sir Rodney but last night called him and left a message declining and offering both my apologies and an explanation as to why I would not be attending. I have previously been very clear that I would not let anyone or anything get in the way of seeing a community stadium built and that anyone who feels that they can offer help and assistance in doing so would be welcome to work with and potential be invited to join (or rejoin) this Trust. This is still unequivocally the case.

In light of Cllr Peter Box comments in the council chamber yesterday and the comments he made in last weeks press release following our meeting, he has made it very clear that it is this Trust, The Wakefield and District Community Trust, that he wishes the council and developer to work with to hopefully (and finally) facilitate and deliver a community stadium. He has expressed a further wish that everyone should come together and work towards this common objective and I wholeheartedly agree with those sentiments.

As such, I have once again invited Sir Rodney to rejoin this Trust and also made it clear that we would consider any new Trustees he wished to propose and whom he felt may be able to also work towards this shared objective.

It is now clear that Sir Rodney (and his unknown colleagues) have two clear choices, he (they) can decide to accept our offer to work and join with us or, if not, they should quite simply walk away and allow this Trust to continue in its unswerving and unabashed attempts to deliver the community stadium the citizens of Wakefield were promised.

If we don't hear from Sir Rodney (and his colleagues) before close of business on Friday 28th July, accepting our invitation, then we will have to assume that they have decided on another course of action.

We hope they either decide to work with us or walk away and allow this Trust to continue to move forward. Any other course of action is clearly no longer helping or helpful.

The Trustees and I are determined as ever to see a community stadium delivered to the wonderful and deserving people of the City of Wakefield and we remain mandated, privileged and committed to do so.

Jonathan Stone


Sir RMW, I believe has links to those involved with Trinity AFC, we need to take extra care when dealing with matters involving this man. Just my opinion of course.

Watch him like a hawk !!!!

The Wakefield FC home kit looks well and I’ve always wanted a football club representing our City. If they help get Belle Vue redeveloped via access to grants unavailable to Trinity all the better.

Lower than a snakes belly

Agree totally with this

Well that didn't take long to find out what's what as far as the football Club , Wakefield FC is owned by a company called ROMIRO GROUP , A quick look at Companies House at RW and there it is Romino Group - he''s used the name Romino 3 times for companies. Also, I just read an article about selling 49% of shares to future fans and businesses and to get in touch with a bloke called Mike Hegarty - who also happens to be a director at the same company with Walker. What all this has to do with the development I don't know and obviously MC & John Minards aren't daft by a long way and are wise to RW and at the end of the day, even with RW they're a start up football side looking for anyone to show interest.

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As I say I’m no RW fan but I’m struggling to see a conspiracy or even an issue. Even if RW wants to replace Trinity with a football team for dodgy purposes any return He could hope to see wouldn’t appear til long after his death if at all.

I’m struggling to see what he has to gain from this other than helping start a football team and being part of the rebuilding of BV.

I really am looking for a motive but no ones providing one. Statements like watch him like a hawk are meaningless to me whilst IA’s post is as he state just an opinion, just one side of the argument.

Why are we even jumping to conclusions, as far as I know not one of us has the first idea what the plan is. Should we not just wait and see before putting up the barricades?

I agree we should and like you even now knowing for definite he's got a piece of a new football team in god knows what division playing out of an athletics track in Barnsley, I can't see why we should be that bothered, or what possibly the conspiracy might be. Also it's not as if the Club won't have been aware a day or two after the football club went public that they knew who was behind it.

I know things happened with the trust & RW, I wasn't there but read what people said and so you treat him with caution but ateotd the dude's got contacts, being involved in god knows how many things and at his age 76, he might either want nothing from us, or might want to leave himself a bit more of a legacy, starting a football team in his home town and which also may help bring us closer to our goals at Belle Vue, who knows. If he wanted to get his hands on the club, or to somehow destroy us, he has the funds and resources to do both ages ago. He's been involved with the clubs for decades and the only dodgy thing I can think of he's done is all that to do with the trust. Anyway I'll happily leave it in the hands of Minards and MC.
On a side note, I didn't realise Minards is a partner at Price Waterhouse Cooper, so he's no mug and it seems to be him that's pushing this on from here.

TRB doesn't trust him and hates the fact football shirts are being sold in our Club shop and he's obviously got his reasons, he's been close to everything that's gone on, that can be the problem sometimes though.

TRB IS CORRECT, WALKER IS TROUBLE

I just can't see a semi-professional AFC being anything but a failure in the City of Wakefield. It's been tried - and failed previously. We are a rugby league city and those who do prefer the round ball game have three football Championship sides to choose from within a 13 mile radius, which seems to satisfy the needs of football-minded folk already. I recall RMW being formerly a director of Leicester City AFC; whether he still is or not I don't know. if he is still on the LCFC Board is he allowed to be a director of another Football League club?
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Nah mate, director from 1999 to 2002

That line is completely true when I see what money goes into my grandkids amateur football club and what they can tap into ,whereas my grandkids RL club is worlds away in terms of monies available .
Not a clue about the football that’s played above these levels but would have thought it would have gone up pro rata

Oh give it a rest how the hell do you know? It’s one thing hearing it from IA or TRB but coming from a poster who’s only contribution to the debate is the endless refrain of ‘are we there yet’? Is just tiresome.

Give us a proper thought out reason and I’ll happily listen, that after all is what forums are for. We have Twitter for pointless statements



I’m sure I’ll get a telling off but it needs saying if this forum is to remain at the same side of the debate.

Vastman you've been warned about walker

Quote ="Redscat"I just can't see a semi-professional AFC being anything but a failure in the City of Wakefield. It's been tried - and failed previously. We are a rugby league city and those who do prefer the round ball game have three football Championship sides to choose from within a 13 mile radius, which seems to satisfy the needs of football-minded folk already. I recall RMW being formerly a director of Leicester City AFC; whether he still is or not I don't know. if he is still on the LCFC Board is he allowed to be a director of another Football League club? ;'" been some 30 years since I played locally and not kept in touch with teams in the league but by did some searching to find out where abouts and levels of the teams that are playing today, surprisingly Wakefield AFC is higher than Nostell Welfare reason I say that is the levels is between them Nostell is 9 where Wakefield is level 8 and Nostell has a far better facilities, digging deeper I found this page wakefieldafc.co.uk/2019/06/01/ho ... announced/ announcing they will be returning back to Wakefield when the same stadium has been devolved, so at some point it will happen, then changes that happened at Nostell over the years was nothing but amazing have worked at Nostell and also playing for few seasons on the old stopping field I was in awe of what they manage to complete and I sure my old mate Glanville has still within the set up, I very much doubt they will ever be able to climb any high within the league structure but Wakefield would have a chance by joining in with Trinity, there will be a few on here will hate the thoughts of football being played at Belle Vue well if any progress has to be made it will have to come to terms that it will happen and it that means Walkers involvement then so be it, as far as support their not doing any favours based in Barnsley but that could well change, success and a wealthier backed could get heads turning but it will take money to do, whether they can keep up financially is another thing what they will bring a funding which is not available to us to my knowledge so I expect they will want some kind of hold to the ground.

Quote ="Redscat"I just can't see a semi-professional AFC being anything but a failure in the City of Wakefield. It's been tried - and failed previously. We are a rugby league city and those who do prefer the round ball game have three football Championship sides to choose from within a 13 mile radius, which seems to satisfy the needs of football-minded folk already. I recall RMW being formerly a director of Leicester City AFC; whether he still is or not I don't know. if he is still on the LCFC Board is he allowed to be a director of another Football League club? ;'" been some 30 years since I played locally and not kept in touch with teams in the league but by did some searching to find out where abouts and levels of the teams that are playing today, surprisingly Wakefield AFC is higher than Nostell Welfare reason I say that is the levels is between them Nostell is 9 where Wakefield is level 8 and Nostell has a far better facilities, digging deeper I found this page wakefieldafc.co.uk/2019/06/01/ho ... announced/ announcing they will be returning back to Wakefield when the same stadium has been devolved, so at some point it will happen, then changes that happened at Nostell over the years was nothing but amazing have worked at Nostell and also playing for few seasons on the old stopping field I was in awe of what they manage to complete and I sure my old mate Glanville has still within the set up, I very much doubt they will ever be able to climb any high within the league structure but Wakefield would have a chance by joining in with Trinity, there will be a few on here will hate the thoughts of football being played at Belle Vue well if any progress has to be made it will have to come to terms that it will happen and it that means Walkers involvement then so be it, as far as support their not doing any favours based in Barnsley but that could well change, success and a wealthier backed could get heads turning but it will take money to do, whether they can keep up financially is another thing what they will bring a funding which is not available to us to my knowledge so I expect they will want some kind of hold to the ground.

Fishermanscap all they are saying is that Walker did us no favours having the 106 agreement removed from the contract when the plans for the new stadium at Newmarket was first put on the table