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| Walk away, leave it ,err ballxxks
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| Quote ="vastman"He did a couple of long stints especially against Cas but not 80 as far as I recall. If he did was it a friendly.'"
Tbh I think he did a couple 80-minute games, can't remember which ones. I remember it being mentioned at the time by a few and even since then it's been pointed out when others had been doubting the fitness of Fifita and Pauli on the VT.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Tbh I think he did a couple 80-minute games, can't remember which ones. I remember it being mentioned at the time by a few and even since then it's been pointed out when others had been doubting the fitness of Fifita and Pauli on the VT.'"
It’s possible I just don’t recall it.
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| Quote ="vastman"Tackling yes. Fitness you’re way off imho, you want size you lose stamina it’s a law of nature. PP plays in bursts as all big lads do, he’s fit enough for the job he does. This is becoming yet another negative Trinity fan myth. Look at the Burgess twins, neither do any more than PP stamina wise.'"
Agree with that and said it myself. If you want huge x-factor blockbusting props, they're generally not going to be as fit as say smaller props or backrowers. Pauli's legs alone must weight 12 stone - you slim him down you may get another 10 minutes a game if needed but will he be anywhere near as destructive, I very much doubt it. Like you say the twins are a great example, plus others in the NRL like Kasiano, Boyd and Junior Paulo, all 19/19.5 stone.
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| Quote ="financialtimes"You really are thick aren't you, you might want to read a little, I said that they play ont the other side of the city to Gateshead, now to break that down for your tiny little brain, the city referred to is the city of Newcastle (as in newcastle thunder) Gateshead is one side of that's city and Kingston park (where "Newcastle" thunder play) is the other side of the city, now get an early night and don't be late for school in the morning
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What's with all the insults?
I don't need a geography lesson from you I know exactly where they play, all I'm guilty of is mistakenly calling them Gateshead instead of Newcastle in a genuine reply to another poster and you thought you'd try and belittle me, and when you got a little bit back it didn't go down well, so you thought you'd reply with a few insults, well done top man
Incidentally when you had the begging bowl out a few years back for some new changing rooms for the all blacks I bunged you a £20 donation when you thought I was a top bloke, funny how times change
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| Quote ="vastman"He did a couple of long stints especially against Cas but not 80 as far as I recall. If he did was it a friendly.'"
Played full 80 against Cas on Sky and got MOM.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Played full 80 against Cas on Sky and got MOM.'"
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| Slow start last year, not very fit, then seemed to get his act together after a rumoured stern talking to. This year seems to have neglected his off season fitness again which is disappointing.
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| Quote ="gastric band"Slow start last year, not very fit, then seemed to get his act together after a rumoured stern talking to. This year seems to have neglected his off season fitness again which is disappointing.'"
Says who? How do you know this?
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| Quote ="gastric band"Slow start last year, not very fit, then seemed to get his act together after a rumoured stern talking to. This year seems to have neglected his off season fitness again which is disappointing.'"
He broke his fibula in the July before he joined us, so it was no surprise that he didn't start in great shape because he will still most probably been rehabbing going into preseason and behind everyone else and CC will have known & seen this, so I doubt there was any stern talking to, just a gradual improvement in fitness imo. When he broke his leg he was only just back playing after the Motorway pile up he was involved in, that resulted in a dislocated hip, so just about a full season off with serious injuries. IMO he did a great job getting back to play Pro RL full stop, let alone just about getting back to the player he was pre-injuries.
Seems there's a couple of rumors going around about the bloke that are nothing more than that.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"What's with all the insults?
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Incidentally when you had the begging bowl out a few years back for some new changing rooms for the all blacks I bunged you a £20 donation when you thought I was a top bloke, funny how times change
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Well apart from All blacks not having new changing rooms for 25 years and the community clubs are always fund raising, not getting begging blows out that statement is spot on, and I'd be surprised if i ever hought you were a "top bloke"
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| Typing on a phone in a rush tends to create the odd typo but I’m man enough to spot the irony
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| Quote ="vastman"Says who? How do you know this?'"
Just my own observation of him during the friendly against Hull. Most of the players looked sharp and not far short of match fitness except for Pauli Pauli.
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| As much as I like Pauli I don’t think all the hype surrounding the chasing of his signature has done him any favours,to be honest I’ve been underwhelmed by his efforts so far on the field .
For me he goes down far too easy for his size and his tackling technique is at times laughable . I’ve no doubt he can do it and hope he proves me wrong .
That’s not to say he won’t knuckle down and Make a big impact on our team this season ,but for me at the moment when fit he’s a fringe player and not the wrecking ball I was hoping he’d be .
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| best thing about him he is so hard to stop near the try line and he knows how to score tries.......you cant stop him from close range
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| Quote ="Kettykat"As much as I like Pauli I don’t think all the hype surrounding the chasing of his signature has done him any favours,to be honest I’ve been underwhelmed by his efforts so far on the field .
For me he goes down far too easy for his size and his tackling technique is at times laughable . I’ve no doubt he can do it and hope he proves me wrong .
That’s not to say he won’t knuckle down and Make a big impact on our team this season ,but for me at the moment when fit he’s a fringe player and not the wrecking ball I was hoping he’d be .'"
Well he's 2nd to just Fifita in average gain at 7.48m compared to Fifita's 7.68m and he made second most meters for a prop and 3rd most in all the forwards, plus he made the second most tackle busts for any forward again behind Fifita. For someone who goes down easily and a fringe player, they're impressive numbers imo. Even without the numbers, it's your opinion mate but I can't agree at all that he goes down too easily, there have been so many times this past season where he's almost impossible to get down and more often than not the ref calls held. Plus his 8 tries is a very good return for a prop, nobody seems to be able to stop him near the line.
it seems people have different opinions of him but it reminds me of when Fifita came over in the middle of the season and people either liked him or were critical.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Well he's 2nd to just Fifita in average gain at 7.48m compared to Fifita's 7.68m and he made second most meters for a prop and 3rd most in all the forwards, plus he made the second most tackle busts for any forward again behind Fifita. For someone who goes down easily and a fringe player, they're impressive numbers imo. Even without the numbers, it's your opinion mate but I can't agree at all that he goes down too easily, there have been so many times this past season where he's almost impossible to get down and more often than not the ref calls held. Plus his 8 tries is a very good return for a prop, nobody seems to be able to stop him near the line.
it seems people have different opinions of him but it reminds me of when Fifita came over in the middle of the season and people either liked him or were critical.'"
Good stats there Shifty.
I'm glad he's in our team and not running at our back line from 10metres out.
Its not just ball in hand either, as PP takes the eye of the opposition, he draws defenders to him as they think he's getting the ball - he opens up space out for others - that fact seems to have also been missed.
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| Stats are all well and good and I bow to your greater knowledge on the subject ,but they don’t tell the full story . What I’m trying to say is how many meters would he make if he rolled his sleeves up , to me he’s still not Playing to anywhere near his potential.
I’m a die hard trinity fan and I’d love nothing more that to see Pauli terrorising the opposition ,just don’t see it yet for what ever reason .
Graft Jonny Thompson’s heart and determination into him and we’d have a world beater .
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| Quote ="Kettykat"Stats are all well and good and I bow to your greater knowledge on the subject ,but they don’t tell the full story . What I’m trying to say is how many meters would he make if he rolled his sleeves up , to me he’s still not Playing to anywhere near his potential.
I’m a die hard trinity fan and I’d love nothing more that to see Pauli terrorising the opposition ,just don’t see it yet for what ever reason .
Graft Jonny Thompson’s heart and determination into him and [i=#FF0000the NRL would[/i have a world beater .'"
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It's a shame, especially for him, that he's missing more game time just when he was coming good,
Clearly we don't have a like for like replacement (who does?), but we have an abundance of SL quality second-rows, who will now get a chance to showcase their skills and get first-team experience.
Looking forward to the summer months when he can return to cause havoc to opposition defences. The opposition are clearly relieved when both Pauli and Fifita are off the field.
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| Quote ="coco the fullback"[i=#FF0000 The opposition are clearly relieved when both Pauli and Fifita are off the field.'"
They give your pack an extra dimension, that's for sure.
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| Quote ="Kettykat"Stats are all well and good and [uI bow to your greater knowledge on the subject[/u ,but they don’t tell the full story . What I’m trying to say is how many meters would he make if he rolled his sleeves up , to me he’s still not Playing to anywhere near his potential.
I’m a die hard trinity fan and I’d love nothing more that to see Pauli terrorising the opposition ,just don’t see it yet for what ever reason .
Graft Jonny Thompson’s heart and determination into him and we’d have a world beater .'"
Why the comment?
You can take out of it what you want but I just gave a few stats, my opinion and didn't agree with what you've put. I also didn't say stats are the be all & end all, that's why I just didn't post stats but they do tell you a fair bit. Like when you look at any of the top Props in the league they have an average gain in the mid/high 7's to over 8 meters a game. Take Thompson from Saints last year, all you had to do is watch the dude play to see he was causing havoc in defenses game after game, then look at his average gain it's over 8 meters and he's run for a few thousand meters.
As I said, it's your opinion mate just don't agree.
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| Quote ="Kettykat"Stats are all well and good and I bow to your greater knowledge on the subject ,but they don’t tell the full story . What I’m trying to say is how many meters would he make if he rolled his sleeves up , to me he’s still not Playing to anywhere near his potential.
I’m a die hard trinity fan and I’d love nothing more that to see Pauli terrorising the opposition ,just don’t see it yet for what ever reason .
Graft Jonny Thompson’s heart and determination into him and we’d have a world beater .'"
Sorry but rubbish
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