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| Quote ="lampyboy"I just think the fans have been led up the garden path. The last admin , it would seem told a pack of lies. We the fans thought everything was on the up, improvements to the ground, good ST sales, good gates, shops on the high street and a reasonable side on the pitch.
Yep,that is why after so many other 'false dawns' I have never felt so 'down' re. Trinity.
Thank goodness for the World Cup to take my attention away from it a little.
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| It seems for some this is one major let down too many and even some long standing supporters have had enough. And you know what, I know exactly how they feel.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"It seems for some this is one major let down too many and even some long standing supporters have had enough. And you know what, I know exactly how they feel.'"
I know how you feel but (if only in my mind) the people left to sort it out are not the ones who caused it so i feel i need to support them.
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| Still got Season ticket though,even though I reside in France, and do Foxy through my son.
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| Quote ="jacques"Still got Season ticket though,even though I reside in France, and[u do Foxy through my son[/u.'"
Care to rephrase that?
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| Quote ="kinleycat"I know how you feel but (if only in my mind) the people left to sort it out are not the ones who caused it so i feel i need to support them.'"
They certainly didn't cause the problem but our current chairman was in charge of doing the books up until the end of last year wasn't he? He must have known we were heading for major trouble, surely something could of been done to flag up the problems earlier and stop things getting so bad.
Although maybe he did and dumb & dumber in charge ignored him? Either way he was part of the board that allowed this to happen even if he didn't 'cause' the issues and this isn't lost on many of the fans who are now expected to dig into their pockets again. I fear the club may find less enthusiasm to do this than previously may have been the case.
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| If our current chairman was indeed incharge of doing the books until the end of last year, he still wasn't calling the shots was he......merely doing the paper work so to speak?
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| Can still hear Glover now....'the club will never have any money worries again...'
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| If the current team was bought on credit does anyone know how much we have paid off. I would assume they would want to show that the sale of first team players is working.
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| Quote ="Jizzer"If our current chairman was indeed incharge of doing the books until the end of last year, he still wasn't calling the shots was he......merely doing the paper work so to speak?'"
Maybe so but he wasn't just a pen pusher though, he was a shareholder in the club holding twice as many shares as Elston did. And whilst Glover was (and still is) the majority shareholder by a long way and called the shots, MC and the others held 40% of the total shareholding and had a voice that could of been heard.
I don't blame him for our troubles, far from it. And I don't disagree with the course of action he is taking to try and rectify it, whilst I don't like it there is no other choice other than administration which would lead to our demise even quicker. At least this way buys us time and gives a chance of something happening however unlikely, look at Salford this time last year. But I would love to know just how it was allowed to have got to this position in the first place.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Maybe so but he wasn't just a pen pusher though, he was a shareholder in the club holding twice as many shares as Elston did. And whilst Glover was (and still is) the majority shareholder by a long way and called the shots, MC and the others held 40% of the total shareholding and had a voice that could of been heard.
I don't blame him for our troubles, far from it. And I don't disagree with the course of action he is taking to try and rectify it, whilst I don't like it there is no other choice other than administration which would lead to our demise even quicker. At least this way buys us time and gives a chance of something happening however unlikely, look at Salford this time last year. But I would love to know just how it was allowed to have got to this position in the first place.'"
You're entitled to ask so give him some, they're asking for questions for Friday's Q&A, fill your boots!
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| Quote ="JINJER"You're entitled to ask so give him some, they're asking for questions for Friday's Q&A, fill your boots!'"
Already have asked previously, and amongst with some others the question got ignored.
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| Watch this space for Agent X111 going into meltdown very soon....... This time though, he will have a point.
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| Why. What's happened?
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Watch this space for Agent X111 going into meltdown very soon....... This time though, he will have a point.'"
Carter's not transfer listed him had he?
Other than that I'm guessing Kirmond may have been sold?
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Watch this space for Agent X111 going into meltdown very soon....... This time though, he will have a point.'"
I dread to think if it is worse than what has happened so far! Only thing I can think of is Danny Kirmond to Salford/Huddersfield/Leeds/St Helens...??
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| Hearing Rumours Kirmond is/has gone, not saying he has just hearing them. Im not in the 'know' but a people who know abit have been saying hes going.
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| Quote ="Jizzer"If our current chairman was indeed incharge of doing the books until the end of last year, he still wasn't calling the shots was he......merely doing the paper work so to speak?'"
Our chairman was a director at the club and also responsible for the accounts in the last year or so. He also says he has invested £300K in the club.
This would have given him total access to everything that was going on and if there wasn't anything he did not know he was in the perfect position to find out.
He has stated on here that he is not a very rich man therefore I would have thought if he had put £300K into the club he would have watched it very closely indeed. I do not accept that he did not know what was going on. However if what he says is true and he was not aware of how the club was being run, then this raises one question. If he was stupid enough to put in £300K and not keep tabs on the situation, is he capable of running the club now ?
So far all the MC has done is constantly asset strip and run the club down. When I see him actually building something
and starting to make positive developments for the future I may become a little more at ease with him being in charge. However right now the guy really worries me.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Our chairman was a director at the club and also responsible for the accounts in the last year or so. He also says he has invested £300K in the club.
This would have given him total access to everything that was going on and if there wasn't anything he did not know he was in the perfect position to find out.
He has stated on here that he is not a very rich man therefore I would have thought if he had put £300K into the club he would have watched it very closely indeed. I do not accept that he did not know what was going on. However if what he says is true and he was not aware of how the club was being run, then this raises one question. If he was stupid enough to put in £300K and not keep tabs on the situation, is he capable of running the club now ?
So far all the MC has done is constantly asset strip and run the club down. When I see him actually building something
and starting to make positive developments for the future I may become a little more at ease with him being in charge. However right now the guy really worries me.'"
I don't see the point in raising the question, or any of teh questions Agent XIII raises for one main reason. He is the only one willing to do it. Whether he knew something or not, he is the only one wanting to fix it.
Why would you need to question that. Just give what support you can.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Watch this space for Agent X111 going into meltdown very soon....... This time though, he will have a point.'"
Sounds ominous but sadly all too familar. And expected.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Our chairman was a director at the club and also responsible for the accounts in the last year or so. He also says he has invested £300K in the club.
This would have given him total access to everything that was going on and if there wasn't anything he did not know he was in the perfect position to find out.
He has stated on here that he is not a very rich man therefore I would have thought if he had put £300K into the club he would have watched it very closely indeed. I do not accept that he did not know what was going on. However if what he says is true and he was not aware of how the club was being run, then this raises one question. If he was stupid enough to put in £300K and not keep tabs on the situation, is he capable of running the club now ?
So far all the MC has done is constantly asset strip and run the club down. When I see him actually building something
and starting to make positive developments for the future I may become a little more at ease with him being in charge. However right now the guy really worries me.'"
Sadly your not the only one who is feeling like that, hence people are keeping their money in their pocket causing the snowball effect to increase.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Our chairman was a director at the club and also responsible for the accounts in the last year or so. He also says he has invested £300K in the club.
This would have given him total access to everything that was going on and if there wasn't anything he did not know he was in the perfect position to find out.
He has stated on here that he is not a very rich man therefore I would have thought if he had put £300K into the club he would have watched it very closely indeed. I do not accept that he did not know what was going on. However if what he says is true and he was not aware of how the club was being run, then this raises one question. If he was stupid enough to put in £300K and not keep tabs on the situation, is he capable of running the club now ?
So far all the MC has done is constantly asset strip and run the club down. When I see him actually building something
and starting to make positive developments for the future I may become a little more at ease with him being in charge. However right now the guy really worries me.'"
Thats pretty much i how see it,i see him as part of the problem,not part of the solution.
The only evidence ive seen so far,points to someone trying to recoup some of their initial investment.
People suggesting MC is trying to fix the situation..............Is he ?? Is he really??
Or is he just trying to rescue as much as he can personally from the wreckage??
It just doesnt make sense(unless youve money to burn or are a Trinity fanatic) and i dont believe MC is either,yet he tells us"hes put his house on the line"and people believe hes working his fingers to the bone to put little old Wakefield in a stable position.
He keeps us in Super League for one more season,but operates on a champioship budget,he knows full well it will result in probable relegation,but we still get the sky money and additional gate money etc for one more year.The agony is simply just delayed for the supporters whilst the investors try to recoup some of their investment.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Thats pretty much i how see it,i see him as part of the problem,not part of the solution.
The only evidence ive seen so far,points to someone trying to recoup some of their initial investment.
People suggesting MC is trying to fix the situation..............Is he ?? Is he really??
Or is he just trying to rescue as much as he can personally from the wreckage??
It just doesnt make sense(unless youve money to burn or are a Trinity fanatic) and i dont believe MC is either,yet he tells us"hes put his house on the line"and people believe hes working his fingers to the bone to put little old Wakefield in a stable position.
He keeps us in Super League for one more season,but operates on a champioship budget,he knows full well it will result in probable relegation,but we still get the sky money and additional gate money etc for one more year.The agony is simply just delayed for the supporters whilst the investors try to recoup some of their investment.'"
i get your point but what is the alternative? Nobody else it seems wants to run/buy the club, so if mc walked away, what then?
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"i get your point but what is the alternative? Nobody else it seems wants to run/buy the club, so if mc walked away, what then?'"
We head off up that creek this year rather than next.
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| All i can see is a meltdown of the club, at this point we have one season left in us, not a team left to compete in SL. Then when we drop out of the league, and we will with what we have left, god help us because the people going through the gates will be the diehards. RFL will shut the door on us and i think everyone on here knows that. The league will drop to 10 and all the big boys will be happy, what you will have left is a strong chamionship for the first time with us in it.
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