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| Quote ="Fully"Hardly. I'm asking questions based on the contents of others' posts. I am not looking or searching for bites.'"
You're a troll. Get back on your own board.
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| Quote ="Fully"But you woefully neglect the rest of the sentence just to suit your pathetic personal digs at me. If you re-read, I think you'll find the words "if", which suggests that there has to be a chance it is a risk worth paying if it can come off and was in direct response to I_A's post previously, which states "it's a big risk for a private individual." If there is no chance, then no, there isn't any point really.
I refuse to accept anything said by Wakefield fans who know absolutely zip about GH or inside GH other than rumours and forum posts. There is nothing stopping GH except money. If we had money, it would have been built or would be built. It seems to be you that cannot grasp that fact.
Please, please return to the discussion and stop focusing on your personal attentions of me.'"
Nothing to stop me ruling the world tommorow either, just need all the money in the world and it will be mine I tell you all mine! Bit like your logic for GH you fool.
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| Bloody government, they think they own the place
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| Quote ="Fully"But you woefully neglect the rest of the sentence just to suit your pathetic personal digs at me. If you re-read, I think you'll find the words "if", which suggests that there has to be a chance it is a risk worth paying if it can come off and was in direct response to I_A's post previously, which states "it's a big risk for a private individual." If there is no chance, then no, there isn't any point really.
I refuse to accept anything said by Wakefield fans who know absolutely zip about GH or inside GH other than rumours and forum posts. There is nothing stopping GH except money. If we had money, it would have been built or would be built. It seems to be you that cannot grasp that fact.
Please, please return to the discussion and stop focusing on your personal attentions of me.'"
You ask for all that you recieve I'm afraid and ostrich like impression is at times cringeworthy. I take no pleasure in having to exchange messages to correct your niaive attempts to find flaws within our potential new ground and I am on record in several places suggesting that I wish GH the best of luck - I genuinely want both, so yes - it is only you who seem to try to take the high ground but only result in what others see as merely 'trolling'.
As for GH, it is possible that other people have contact with companies and individuals who are directly or indirectly involved in what's going on down there - I am aware of a couple at least - and some who have feed-back from some high-level executives of companies linked with buying WR in particular. To not accept that anything said outside of RW's office is just unbelievable and undermines any credibility that you may otherwise accrue.
The truth is that you cannot build GH at this time - it may be because of money (including the £1m link road no-one wants to pay for), but you cannot 'build it tomorrow' and it will take a long time and some significant political will (which I think you have) to change that!
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| Quote ="TRB"You ask for all that you recieve I'm afraid and ostrich like impression is at times cringeworthy. I take no pleasure in having to exchange messages to correct your niaive attempts to find flaws within our potential new ground and I am on record in several places suggesting that I wish GH the best of luck - I genuinely want both, so yes - it is only you who seem to try to take the high ground but only result in what others see as merely 'trolling'.
As for GH, it is possible that other people have contact with companies and individuals who are directly or indirectly involved in what's going on down there - I am aware of a couple at least - and some who have feed-back from some high-level executives of companies linked with buying WR in particular. To not accept that anything said outside of RW's office is just unbelievable and undermines any credibility that you may otherwise accrue.
The truth is that you cannot build GH at this time - it may be because of money (including the £1m link road no-one wants to pay for), but you cannot 'build it tomorrow' and it will take a long time and some significant political will (which I think you have) to change that!'"
Apologies for the English - but you get the gist!
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| Quote ="Fully"But you woefully neglect the rest of the sentence just to suit your pathetic personal digs at me. If you re-read, I think you'll find the words "if", which suggests that there has to be a chance it is a risk worth paying if it can come off and was in direct response to I_A's post previously, which states "it's a big risk for a private individual." If there is no chance, then no, there isn't any point really.
I refuse to accept anything said by Wakefield fans who know absolutely zip about GH or inside GH other than rumours and forum posts. There is nothing stopping GH except money. =#FF0000If we had money, it would have been built or would be built. It seems to be you that cannot grasp that fact.
Please, please return to the discussion and stop focusing on your personal attentions of me.'"
Oh well at least you've finally grasped that concept, now then this flat world you keep banging on about............
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| Without trawling through all today's posts and not getting wound up by the inbred trolls, just a brake down how we stand.
Last Monday ldf resulted in Newmarket being advised to come out of green belt.
PI decision was due today but been delayed no timescale announced.
Council meeting tomorrow to discuss LDF (why couldn't they meet before PI decision)
We could be given the green light from tomorrow onwards.
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"Without trawling through all today's posts and not getting wound up by the inbred trolls, just a brake down how we stand.
Last Monday ldf resulted in Newmarket being advised to come out of green belt.
PI decision was due today but been delayed no timescale announced.
Council meeting tomorrow to discuss LDF (why couldn't they meet before PI decision)
We could be given the green light from tomorrow onwards.'"
Thats pretty much as I see it.
Council meeting dates are often set up months in advance so the date will have been set before the date of the PI announcement. The Council will endorse its own LDF tommorow so will become "law" and the land will be taken our of greenbelt and desingated as B8 which in planning terms is distribution.
I would not be surprissed if we get an announcement before the end of the week but I cannot see any reason why we will have to wait much longer. There is however I believe a 6 week period by which there could (unlikely) be a Judicial Review so we are noy clear until 6 weeks from the announcement.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Fully will be on the Cas forum later, encouraging people to do everything possiblet to challenge the LDF; FACT!'"
I've been trying to pick out the username but so far it alludes me.
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| Is it not hudds tigers?!
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| Quote ="mwildcats"Is it not hudds tigers?!'"
It is, rather obvious too isn't it?
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| Quote ="bren2k"Fully will be on the Cas forum later, encouraging people to do everything possiblet to challenge the LDF; FACT!'"
Quote ="HuddsTiger"The Council cannot pay for maintenance. That will be the responsibility of Wakefield District Community Trust. If not them, the owners.
If the Council do put any money towards upkeep I expect all Cas fans to do something about it - I don't want MY taxes going towards things like that when the roads are a joke, Pontefract Hospital is struggling to make ends meet and other things need prioritising.'"
He likes to portray himself as the voice of reason, but (if it is the same person) in reality he seems quite devious.
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| How is that devious?
I think that there are better things to be prioritising taxes on right at this minute, just as I wouldn't think it would be right if you lot were paying in any way more than what is already agreed for the Cas stadium. Is Ponte A+E not an issue? Are public transport stations, for the most part, not a bit of a joke and in dire need of improvement? Are the roads not a state? They certainly are where I've been and the amount of potholes are becoming ridiculous. Sorry but now you're just being silly to portray me in a bad light. And this could really be classified as harassment.
As I've already mentioned anyway, that is the responsibility of WDCT/whoever owns it (and this is something I've said on one of the other threads on the Cas RLFans page in the last few days too and was agreed with by I_A). Anyway, back on topic, I would suggest.
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| Quote ="Fully"How is that devious?
I think that there are better things to be prioritising taxes on right at this minute. Is Ponte A+E not an issue? Are public transport stations, for the most part, not a bit of a joke and in dire need of improvement? Are the roads not a state? They certainly are where I've been and the amount of potholes are becoming ridiculous. Sorry but now you're just being silly to portray me in a bad light. And this could really be classified as harassment.
As I've already mentioned anyway, that is the responsibility of WDCT/whoever owns it.'"
Your motives are clear when you say things like 'I expect all Cas fans to do something about it'. Why are you only calling for Cas fans to oppose this?
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| Quote ="Fully"How is that devious?
I think that there are better things to be prioritising taxes on right at this minute, just as I wouldn't think it would be right if you lot were paying in any way more than what is already agreed for the Cas stadium. Is Ponte A+E not an issue? Are public transport stations, for the most part, not a bit of a joke and in dire need of improvement? Are the roads not a state? They certainly are where I've been and the amount of potholes are becoming ridiculous. Sorry but now you're just being silly to portray me in a bad light. And this could really be classified as harassment.
As I've already mentioned anyway, that is the responsibility of WDCT/whoever owns it (and this is something I've said on one of the other threads on the Cas RLFans page in the last few days too and was agreed with by I_A). Anyway, back on topic, I would suggest.'"
If your called hudds tiger why do you pay your council tax to Wakefield council, do you work anyway, why are WMDC paying for maintenance on Newmarket community stadium I must have missed that bit
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| Quote =HuddsTiger wrote:The Council cannot pay for maintenance. That will be the responsibility of Wakefield District Community Trust. If not them, the owners.
If the Council do put any money towards upkeep I expect all Cas fans to do something about it - I don't want MY taxes going towards things like that when the roads are a joke, Pontefract Hospital is struggling to make ends meet and other things need prioritising.'"
Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"He likes to portray himself as the voice of reason, but (if it is the same person) in reality he seems quite devious.'"
What he is saying is that the Wakefield rate payers should not pay for maintenance of the stadium part of the development and I would think that the Wakey ratepayers would agree. How is that devious?
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"If your called hudds tiger why do you pay your council tax to Wakefield council, do you work anyway, why are WMDC paying for maintenance on Newmarket community stadium I must have missed that bit'"
I used to live in Huddersfield.
They're not, that's why I said they're not. I then went on to say if they did I wouldn't be happy and I would expect all Cas fans to be the same. I then went on to list a number of things in the local area (that affect Cas fans) that needed prioritising. I aimed it at Cas fans as it's a Cas forum although I would say that to anyone right now, with WMDC having to cut back like all councils, stadia are probably not their priority. Hope that all helps and ends this little facade that you've got going.
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| Quote ="bigalf"What he is saying is that the Wakefield rate payers should not pay for maintenance of the stadium part of the development and I would think that the Wakey ratepayers would agree. How is that devious?'"
He doesn't say Wakefield rate payers, he specifically says 'Cas fans'.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"He doesn't say Wakefield rate payers, he specifically says 'Cas fans'.'"
Because it's a Cas forum aimed at Cas fans, not Wakefield ratepayers.
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY" why are WMDC paying for maintenance on Newmarket community stadium I must have missed that bit'"
They are not.
The quote was lifted from the Casforum when he was answering a question on there when someone suggested that may be the case.
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| Quote ="Fully"Because it's a Cas forum aimed at Cas fans, not Wakefield ratepayers.'"
Well I live in Wakefield and I'm happy if my taxes help with the new stadium. Put whatever spin on it you want, but you're itching for Newmarket to fail.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"Well I live in Wakefield and I'm happy if my taxes help with the new stadium. Put whatever spin on it you want, but you're itching for Newmarket to fail.'"
Exactly. So if I billeted on here, as WMDC ratepayers, you'd have a good old whinge about that. Therefore, that's why I aimed it at Cas fans on a Cas forum.
This has nothing to do with Newmarket failing. IIRC, I was actually talking about upkeep of a Newmarket Stadium, which if I'm right implies it will be built.
Many of my friends are out of work, I believe like many others that Ponte hospital needs sorting out and I use public transport to and from work every day of the week. I also drive a lot and use public roads. These are all priorities when it comes to the Council Tax being spent in the local area. I'd have thought you would have agreed?
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| how embarrassing this becoming to the cas fans that are coming on here that are clawing on in despair in the hopes that it will be denied
I can wait a few more days
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| Please don't think we're all like that snowie. I for one am sick and tired of the whole stadium(s) thing and the tactics used by the RFL to erode any sense of respect between fans is taking the game down a road I don't want to be a part of.
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"Please don't think we're all like that snowie. I for one am sick and tired of the whole stadium(s) thing and the tactics used by the RFL to erode any sense of respect between fans is taking the game down a road I don't want to be a part of.'"
I agree Steady, but this little "spat" was started by taking a quote from a different forum completely out of context to have a dig at a certain poster and that needs to be pointed out.
Rant over!
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