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| Quote ="1315trinity"Appreciate your post - YOU at least know we had players out too - it's the press I was knocking!
Anyway you're right we do have some player in Murphy and I'm sure you'll understand we'd like to keep him a =#FF0000lot longer!'"
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"And we still won the LLS, whilst confirming Warrington as 11th place - honestly the best result all around
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Just to be clear, Saints were missing;
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Hopoate Hurrell Percival Grace
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J Sambou Martyn Simm Hill
Gilford and Lane (along with Corkill and Archer) are the academy group below Baxter/Delaney/Moss and putting them up against the likes of Murphy was a fools errand. But with Simm/Sambou/Hill injured what can you do? Our biggest issue this year is that our reserves level side has been decimated and we have had to go younger and younger in search of replacements.
That’s not to take away from Wakefield - whom I totally get had players out too, were good value for the win. Have some player in Murphy, very much hope there’s a deal to be done as our replacement for Grace
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Tupou
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Fifita
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| Lino and Arona too !!
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| Really enjoyable game and you couldn't really fault any of the Wakefield guys even though the tactic of throwing the ball around a bit does send to cause the occasional error. Plenty to cheer and appreciate from fringe players such as Shaw, Sid, Evans and Bowes.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Really enjoyable game and you couldn't really fault any of the Wakefield guys even though the tactic of throwing the ball around a bit does send to cause the occasional error. Plenty to cheer and appreciate from fringe players such as Shaw, Sid, Evans and Bowes.'"
Evans is one I'd like to retain.
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| Quote ="1315trinity"Evans is one I'd like to retain.'"
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| Quote ="1315trinity"Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Really enjoyable game and you couldn't really fault any of the Wakefield guys even though the tactic of throwing the ball around a bit does send to cause the occasional error. Plenty to cheer and appreciate from fringe players such as Shaw, Sid, Evans and Bowes.'"
Evans is one I'd like to retain.'"
I like the look of Evans but we have Murphy, Kershaw, Taufua and Lineham next year signed up. That for me is fine. I’m already wondering where Taufua will fit in next year with the way Kersh has been playing on that right wing.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"I like the look of Evans but we have Murphy, Kershaw, Taufua and Lineham next year signed up. That for me is fine. I’m already wondering where Taufua will fit in next year with the way Kersh has been playing on that right wing.'"
Do you honestly think Lineham will ever train with us again let alone play. I’d be very surprised.
Evens is so much better than Lineham it’s quite shocking. I’d actually say that in broken play scenarios he’s the best at the club and only Murphy is quicker, he’s a keeper for me all day long.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Wakefield had Johnstone
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Whitbread
Tanginoa
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Pitts
All missing, but not mentioned on Radio Merseyside or Sky
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TBF he is a clear winner on the who was missing front but who cares. 8 weeks ago we wouldn’t have won that game now we’ve won it easily. It has to be viewed as a good win and remember as is constantly regurgitated on here I’m not yet a fully paid up member of the Poching fan club.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Really enjoyable game and you couldn't really fault any of the Wakefield guys even though the tactic of throwing the ball around a bit does send to cause the occasional error. Plenty to cheer and appreciate from fringe players such as Shaw, Sid, Evans and Bowes.'"
I have a feeling that Shaw won’t be a fringe player for long and if we pick up injuries neither will Evans.
I believe Sid is leaving, don’t know about Bowes.
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| Just watched the highlights. I thought our defence might have been a bit off conceding 3 tries. Delighted to say not so if the highlights mirror the whole game.
2 from 3 of the Saints tries came off blatant forward passe, no team could defend that.
Doesn’t matter this time but the ref or linesman, vid knows which one is looking for them were poor in that regard. I have to ask where are they looking. Since the game began spotting forward passes has been a pivotal part of the officials job. I accept borderline and don’t even mind a slight bias to the attacking team but this was poor. I know it could be the TV angles and I’ll look again on a bigger screen later so I may ne wrong. I’m
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| Take the point but the line looked a little passive in conceding all three tries… that said the team have to take massive credit for their ‘next up’ attitude…
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| Quote ="vastman"Just watched the highlights. I thought our defence might have been a bit off conceding 3 tries. Delighted to say not so if the highlights mirror the whole game.
2 from 3 of the Saints tries came off blatant forward passe, no team could defend that.
Doesn’t matter this time but the ref or linesman, vid knows which one is looking for them were poor in that regard. I have to ask where are they looking. Since the game began spotting forward passes has been a pivotal part of the officials job. I accept borderline and don’t even mind a slight bias to the attacking team but this was poor. I know it could be the TV angles and I’ll look again on a bigger screen later so I may ne wrong. I’m'"
Not one of our players reacted to say they were forward. And we still should have stopped them. The last one was awful. And that i assume is why he isn't getting a contract.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Not one of our players reacted to say they were forward. And we still should have stopped them. The last one was awful. And that i assume is why he isn't getting a contract.'"
Can anyone tell me how Bowes and Shaw went? How far do they look away from possibly being first team ready?
On the highlights Jowitt seemed to be having a hand in everything. There’s not many fullbacks who can join the line better and find a pass. Id honestly stick with Jowitt as he’s entering his best years and will only get better over the next 5-7 years.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Really enjoyable game and you couldn't really fault any of the Wakefield guys even though the tactic of throwing the ball around a bit does send to cause the occasional error. Plenty to cheer and appreciate from fringe players such as Shaw, Sid, Evans and Bowes.'"
Thought all the above played well.
Good to see Sid taking defenders with him after the tackle!
Evans run and pass for Max's try was sublime.....
They looked like they were enjoying themselves out there and tbh I thought we were going to score every time we were in their 20.
Not interested who they had missing - you can only beat the team thats put out in front of you........
Yes, a couple of soft tries, but at the end of the day it didnt make any difference.
We had Lewis Murphy in the team!
He totally outshone Makinson who I actually forgot was playing until he took the kicks...
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| Quote ="PopTart"Not one of our players reacted to say they were forward. And we still should have stopped them. The last one was awful. And that i assume is why he isn't getting a contract.'"
Looked again, I'll revise it down to one.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Can anyone tell me how Bowes and Shaw went? How far do they look away from possibly being first team ready?
On the highlights Jowitt seemed to be having a hand in everything. There’s not many fullbacks who can join the line better and find a pass. Id honestly stick with Jowitt as he’s entering his best years and will only get better over the next 5-7 years.'"
Bowes was very good, shaw good. As for Max i thought he was excellent. Dont know how much it will cost to sign Jamie Shaul but if money is tight then I would just stick with Max. We need a top class half , once thats sorted see what we have left and if not enough for two fullbacks, more than happy to go with Max alone.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Bowes was very good, shaw good. As for Max i thought he was excellent. Dont know how much it will cost to sign Jamie Shaul but if money is tight then I would just stick with Max. We need a top class half , once thats sorted see what we have left and if not enough for two fullbacks, more than happy to go with Max alone.'"
Completely echo that sentiment. I like Shaul and think he’s played well but Max should be our full backs for the next 5-7 years imho. He will continue to develop and improve marshalling the defence (I have seen glimpses of him directing players in the line). For me full backs don’t hit their peak till 27-33 much like props are generally late bloomers.i would honestly consider having Jowitt as 1 with maybe bringing through an understudy from the academy if possible. If we have Max and Shaul then 1 will be sat in the stands so seems a waste of resources in some respect.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"If we have Max and Shaul then 1 will be sat in the stands so seems a waste of resources in some respect.'"
Til one does a knee, then you have none...
Proper competition for a starting spot is essential to get the best out of any player.
Also, Jowitt has the ability to play 6 and offers cover there.
We need a better squad, not just a better 1-17.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Completely echo that sentiment. I like Shaul and think he’s played well but Max should be our full backs for the next 5-7 years imho. He will continue to develop and improve marshalling the defence (I have seen glimpses of him directing players in the line). For me full backs don’t hit their peak till 27-33 much like props are generally late bloomers.i would honestly consider having Jowitt as 1 with maybe bringing through an understudy from the academy if possible. If we have Max and Shaul then 1 will be sat in the stands so seems a waste of resources in some respect.'"
MC, in his 'statement' said that we hope to sign Jamie S
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| Quote ="dboy"Til one does a knee, then you have none...
Proper competition for a starting spot is essential to get the best out of any player.
Also, Jowitt has the ability to play 6 and offers cover there.
We need a better squad, not just a better 1-17.'"
Plus a very good goal kicker
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| Quote ="dboy"Til one does a knee, then you have none...
Proper competition for a starting spot is essential to get the best out of any player.
Also, Jowitt has the ability to play 6 and offers cover there.
We need a better squad, not just a better 1-17.'"
Or doesn’t and we have one sat in stands. We just don’t know. Which is why I said we should go for a cover option only promoted through the ranks or even for the odd few games rely on Gaskell for cover (there are options).
Jowitt is a full back and not a 6. He can at a push cover there but will never be a 6. We most certainly need a quality 6 and a some cover at halfback too.
I wouldn’t be dissapointed if Shaul signed as he’s gone well for us but I’d rather see Max continue to grow and he needs regular game time for that.
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| Quote ="dboy"Til one does a knee, then you have none...
Proper competition for a starting spot is essential to get the best out of any player.
Also, Jowitt has the ability to play 6 and offers cover there.
We need a better squad, not just a better 1-17.'"
It’s a funny one that.
I toll agree on the theory. However Salford have a paper thin squad but with a relative lack of injuries and a few additions and they look great!
If it were me I’d look at signing a smaller squad of say 26 but of real quality. Bring up a couple of of extra Academy lads. But crucially leave money in the bank for mid to late season loans/signings.
At that point we will know our weaknesses and where injuries have hit.
How many times have loan players and mid season signings either turned us around or more positively given us a further boost, a lot I suspect.
It’s not even a risky strategy imho. If you use up all your budget pre-season then you leave yourself open to not being able to cover situations. For example all your forwards are fit but you have no pivots.
Start with 26 - 28 and add 2 - 3 key players as required. I’d even be tempted to keep 1 of our three overseas free.
Imagine if we are playing for a play off spot in July or August and we could bring a quality Aussie in. There are always a few out of favour ones looking for a SL shop window.
Toppo was the master of this though I accept there were a lot more players available then.
But what do know in fairness.
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